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Talk:Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T21:25:57Z

The Deadly Brain:

:I need referance for these things ASAP. I can't rip words from the panels, so that's up to my fellow editors.
::[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:33, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

:Well, speech and console text are stored already. =) Take a look to these: 
:*http://wiki.oni2.net/index.php/Quotes/Consoles#Chapter_2_:_ENGINES_OF_EVIL 
:*http://wiki.oni2.net/index.php/Quotes/Speech#The_Glorious_Deadly_Brain_Fight_.28sic.21.29 
:Unfortunately my English sucks so I doesn't write articles nor do major editing. Sorry.
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]]

:Thanks. Any grammer help on the new article would be appreciated.
::;The Deadly Brain

:Hey, TDB. Let me ask you a thing. Is [[Chapters#Summary|THIS]] yours?
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:29, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
No. [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 23:25, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Talk:Main Page

2007-05-25T21:22:40Z

The Deadly Brain: /* Standerds */

==Standerds==
:Mayhap we should set some standerds for article creation/modification. For one, NO m-rated language.[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:18, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

:I beg to disagree. Clean language is not an option.
:The best we can do is blank out certain characters.
:So I hope you're all right with s##t and f##k etc.
:Peace
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:In any case, such a rule would have to be motivated.
:Are ''you'' offended, or do you want to protect others?
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:BTW, there ''are'' stand'''a'''rds in terms of spelling ^^
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

I know for a fact children younger then ten visit this site. [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 23:22, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

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==Expansion==
it could use a bit of enlarging... and detailing... this site ain't a direct-copy of the game (even though it might seem so ;P), so... :)
[[User:EgonFreeman|EgonFreeman]] 1:33, 9 Jun 2006 (CEST)
:Well, feel free to contribute... that's how it works. All the detailing and enlarging is done by me ATM, but it's not supposed to stay that way...
:I know there are things like chapter summaries and character profiles missing, but... there are other priorities, including Oni-related ones :)
:I may be trimming the Main Page soon (it's a bit confusing at the moment). More images, less text. Links to namespaces and such.
:[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:30, 14 Jun 2006 (CEST)

Talk:Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T20:08:14Z

The Deadly Brain:

I need referance for these things ASAP. I can't rip words from the panels, so that's up to my fellow editors. [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:33, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Well, speech and console text are stored already. =) Take a look to these: 
http://wiki.oni2.net/index.php/Quotes/Consoles#Chapter_2_:_ENGINES_OF_EVIL 
http://wiki.oni2.net/index.php/Quotes/Speech#The_Glorious_Deadly_Brain_Fight_.28sic.21.29 

Unfortunately my English sucks so I doesn't write articles nor do major editing. Sorry.
[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]]

Thanks. Any grammer help on the new article would be appreciated.

Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T20:07:40Z

The Deadly Brain:

[[Image:TheDeadlyBrain.png]]

A Deadly Brain is a highly trained soldier whose nervous system has been implanted in a cybernetic security system. This project was an attempt to replace the control systems of a Type 3 Battle Drone with a grafted biological brain. Projections indicated that the reflex response of a direct neural link would be as much as twenty times faster than any remote or automated system. Brains were harvested for the Syndicate in hospitals by surgeons willing to falsify records in exchange for high paying consultancy positions with one of their "clean" corporations. Wounded military and law enforcement personnel were given the highest priority. Cybergenic implants conditioned the brains giving them the programming needed to control the drones. Sixteen prototypes were produced before the TCTF located the test facility. The prototype Deadly Brains engaged the TCTF, providing excellent live-fire field tests. Engineers attempted to exploit the advantages inherent in the speed of the neural link by interlocking batteries of free tracking ball mount plasma cannons designed to independently track and fire upon multiple targets simultaneously. In simulations the cannons were effective but in the heat of battle the friendly fire lockout would sometimes fail, causing the drone weapons to fire on allied units. In field tests against the TCTF half of the losses sustained were from rogue plasma batteries. Several attempts were made to remedy the flaws in the system but nothing provided satisfactory reliability. Final prototypes incorporated Screaming Cannon mounts with auto-tracking projectiles along with Auto-Pistol mounts to provide target suppression and covering fire which proved to be an effective mix for area denial and point defense. The greatest weakness of the Deadly Brain prototypes stemmed from their control interface. Brains harvested from trained combat personnel come from a lifetime of interfacing with human physiology so once integrated into the cybernetic system a barrage of alien data with no human frame of physical reference often overwhelms them. Given time the host brain can adapt and begin to utilize its new physical state, but that delicate equilibrium is easily upset by ghost physical data input through the command consoles of the drone. However approaching the command consoles of an active Deadly Brain was deemed virtually impossible, so this so-called flaw in the system was considered insignificant. Deadly brains were declared illegal by the [[TCTF]], but [[Muro]] had Dr. Singh and Dr. Kafelnikov make one to guard the [[Musashi]] plant. Unfotunatly, it went beserk, but [[Konoko]] was able to deactivate it before any serious damage occured.

User talk:The Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T19:57:38Z

The Deadly Brain:

> The Imago theory, upon reflection, brings up some unusual points. 
> If the purest Imago state is acheived, then the Chrysilis has nothing more to adapt from. 
> Does it simply die, or could it survive? If it lived, could it possibly be inserted with another Chrysilis? 
> If so, then one must wonder at the monsters that may occur... 

Hi Deadly Brain, 

I'm paradox .. and like to talk to you about this daodan stuff. (Sorry for my bad English.) 

Always I thought that daodan is nothing more than a auto-improving algorithm in genetic form ... 
... and the end of development is a Imago. 
The human being was transformed in "something different". His or her biomass is full of genetic upgrades. 
Why should it die then? (I'm thinking it (the genetic code) would just go inactive.) 
Or do you expected that the whole organism just die .. someway confusing. 

I want to like hearing your version of the DC. 

BTW, form which country you are? You said Chrysilis instead of Chrysalis (English/German) or Chrysalide (French). 

I am from the USA. And what I meant was this: The chrysilis is not meant to operate on its own, it is meant to support another organism. With nothing left to support, there is nothing left for the chrysilis to do. Without its programed purpose, would it survive as an independant organism? Could it possibly be repeated, perhaps indefinitely?[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:15, 25 May 2007 (CEST) 

Okay thx for your quick answer. 
IMHO the original host is now totally build by chrysalis cells so I see it as an independent organism. 
Further: more mutations can appear if there is a "reason" to again. (At least caused by a semi-strong physical or very strong psychical event.) [[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 21:27, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

There would BE no reason. As far as the Chrysilis is concerned, the host is now invincible. [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 21:57, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Talk:Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T17:33:04Z

The Deadly Brain:

I need referance for these things ASAP. I can't rip words from the panels, so that's up to my fellow editors. [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:33, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T17:31:41Z

The Deadly Brain:

[[Image:TheDeadlyBrain.png]]

A Deadly Brain is a highly trained soldier whose nervous system has been implanted in a cybernetic security system. Deadly brains were declared illegal by the [[TCTF]], but [[Muro]] found/made one to guard the [[Musashi]] plant. Unfotunatly, it went beserk, but [[Konoko]] was able to deactivate it before any serious damage occured.

User:The Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T17:27:47Z

The Deadly Brain:

[[Image:TheDeadlyBrain.png]]

A survivor of the first Deadly Brain experiments, this strange creature opted to surrender itself to the TCTF. It now works as a data compiler.

User:The Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T17:27:26Z

The Deadly Brain:

[[Image:TheDeadlyBrain.png]]
A survivor of the first Deadly Brain experiments, this strange creature opted to surrender itself to the TCTF. It now works as a data compiler.

File:TheDeadlyBrain.png

2007-05-25T17:26:32Z

The Deadly Brain: IT'S THE DEADLY BRAIN!!!!!!

IT'S THE DEADLY BRAIN!!!!!!

Muro

2007-05-25T17:19:18Z

The Deadly Brain: /* Altruism */

==Facts==
===Hot pursuit===
This encompasses Muro's sightings in {{C2}} through {{C5}}.
====Musashi Manufacturing====
====Vago Biotech====
====Airport====
====Cargo Hangars====
===An innocent life===
While [[Barabas]] has paid the ultimate price for stealing [[Mai]]'s guardian angel, [[Shinatama]] ended up in Muro's hands, and was taken to an [[ACC|Atmospheric Conversion Center]] where, as we discover later, Muro had very specific business, unrelated to Shinatama whatsoever. Whatever he initially wanted with her, the only ingame episode featured in {{C7}}, as [[Konoko|Mai]] infiltrates the complex, is that of Shinatama's torture : Muro lets high voltage electricity from one of the [[ACC]]'s generators through Shinatama's body, amused at the extent to which [[Shinatama]] feels pain. Muro is assisted by a [[comguy]], but there is no mention made of Muro retrieving any information (e.g. about Mai's [[Daodan]] symbiosis), either downloading it from Shinatama's memory banks or extracting it verbally.
;[[Quotes/Speech#Torture|Related speech]]
The electrocuted Shinatama is then left where she is, and discovered by Mai in {{C8}}. Later, Muro can be sighted running to leave the complex, following a course parallel to Mai's : he's accompanied by the same [[comguy]] who assisted Shinatama's torture.

===Mukade===
A mission objective in {{C9}} present [[Mukade]] as having been sent by Muro. The speech quote, however, only says : "Somebody knew I was going to be poking around in there and sent that hacker after me." So the mission objective appears as an attempt to rationalize the events, by assuming Mukade is acting under Muro's orders.
;[[Quotes/Speech#Retrieving_data|Related speech]]
;[[Quotes/Objectives#{{C9}}|Related objective]]

A brief allusion to Muro is made by [[Konoko|Mai]] during her encounter with [[Mukade]] in {{C10}} : "You're one of Muro's thugs, nothing more!" (her wish, again).
===Dream sequence===
Muro appears to [[Konoko|Mai]] as she finishes reading [[Hasegawa]]'s diary.
===Final encounter===
====Muro & friends====
====Mutant Muro====

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==Speculation==
===Violence===
===Mutant Muro===
===Altruism===
Wasn't Muro altruistic? As far as we know, he claimed he was.
:(Glorious, isn't it? ''This'' is the future.) Join me, or die like all the others, choking on dead air and foul water. I've accomplished everything our father dreamed of doing...
Whether he's offering to [[Konoko|Mai]] ''alone'' to "join him", or has bigger plans, he takes the argument beyond his own person.

It's a "Come with me if you want to live" situation...
He's psychotically insane, but some kind of altruism ''is'' there.

And plotwise, Muro is more than just a bully. He is violent, sadistic, even, but paradoxically, he wasn't closing up on himself. [[STURMANDERUNG]] was a ''gift'' to the world. The gift of a maniac, but a gift nonetheless.

With [[Hasegawa]] out of the picture (more or less), Muro was officially supervising the [[Syndicate]]'s scientific programme : he had a certain degree of "competence" as far as the [[Daodan]] project went and, in his way, was working towards mankind's salvation, or thought he was.

So, while Muro is best viewed as an embodiment of Mai's violent side, he's a bit more than that, technicaly.

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==Related==
*[[Konoko]]
*[[Hasegawa]]
*[[Muro]]
*[[Mukade]]
*[[Barabas]]
*[[Daodan]]
*[[Names|Other names]]

Talk:Main Page

2007-05-25T17:18:17Z

The Deadly Brain:

==Standerds==
Mayhap we should set some standerds for article creation/modification. For one, NO m-rated language.[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:18, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

== What is this graphic? ==

Howdy all!

Just a brief question: what is this little graphic on the top left side of the page? I can't make it out.

(http://wiki.oni2.net/skins/common/images/wiki.png)

—[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 19:26, 17 Feb 2006 (CET)

: It's the image of the datapad of level1: syndicate warehouse =)
:
: —[[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:31, 17 Feb 2006 (CET)

:: �?��?��?�??�?��?��?�… —[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 03:41, 18 Feb 2006 (CET)

: (and it takes you to the Main Page if you click it)
:
: —[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:12, 17 Feb 2006 (CET)
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==Expansion==
it could use a bit of enlarging... and detailing... this site ain't a direct-copy of the game (even though it might seem so ;P), so... :)
[[User:EgonFreeman|EgonFreeman]] 1:33, 9 Jun 2006 (CEST)
:Well, feel free to contribute... that's how it works. All the detailing and enlarging is done by me ATM, but it's not supposed to stay that way...
:I know there are things like chapter summaries and character profiles missing, but... there are other priorities, including Oni-related ones :)
:I may be trimming the Main Page soon (it's a bit confusing at the moment). More images, less text. Links to namespaces and such.
:[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:30, 14 Jun 2006 (CEST)

Hasegawa

2007-05-25T17:16:23Z

The Deadly Brain:

[[Konoko]]

User talk:The Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T17:15:07Z

The Deadly Brain:

> The Imago theory, upon reflection, brings up some unusual points. 
> If the purest Imago state is acheived, then the Chrysilis has nothing more to adapt from. 
> Does it simply die, or could it survive? If it lived, could it possibly be inserted with another Chrysilis? 
> If so, then one must wonder at the monsters that may occur... 

Hi Deadly Brain, 

I'm paradox .. and like to talk to you about this daodan stuff. (Sorry for my bad English.) 

Always I thought that daodan is nothing more than a auto-improving algorithm in genetic form ... 
... and the end of development is a Imago. 
The human being was transformed in "something different". His or her biomass is full of genetic upgrades. 
Why should it die then? (I'm thinking it (the genetic code) would just go inactive.) 
Or do you expected that the whole organism just die .. someway confusing. 

I want to like hearing your version of the DC. 

BTW, form which country you are? You said Chrysilis instead of Chrysalis (English/German) or Chrysalide (French).

I am from the USA. And what I meant was this: The chrysilis is not meant to operate on its own, it is meant to support another organism. With nothing left to support, there is nothing left for the chrysilis to do. Without its programed purpose, would it survive as an independant organism? Could it possibly be repeated, perhaps indefinitely?[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:15, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Daodan

2007-05-25T03:51:56Z

The Deadly Brain: /* Added value */

==Facts==
===Daodan latency etc===
Recurrently mentioned by [[Shinatama]], [[Kerr]], and the rest of [[Griffin]]'s scientific crew, from {{C1}} on. Not very informative to the player at that stage, but the unfamiliar name suggests something out of the ordinary, i.e. more exotic than regular biometric data.

High Daodan latency is bad, low latency is good (27.5 is normal, 29 is a bit alarming). Also mentioned are "bioplasmic waveforms", which are expected to be stable.
===Progress===
Arguably, [[Muro]]'s "An android... Interesting... They must be using it to monitor her progress." doesn't refer to the progress of the Daodan integration process. At that moment (arguably) Muro is not interested in [[Konoko]] appearing as a rival to himself, i.e. as another Daodan.

More trivially, the neural link allows [[Shinatama]] to not only gather precise biometric data, but also to visualize Konoko's immediate environment : "I've seen everything you've seen". Thus "monitoring Mai's progress" can amount to making data like Mai's exact location and environment available to [[Griffin]].

The neural link also acts like a portable scanner that Shinatama can use to analyze situations that are outside Mai's own field of vision (but still in close proximity to Mai), and feed Mai back with appropriate tactical information. Examples of such tactical computers include Halo's Cortana and Serious Sam's Netricsa.

OMG, this is off-topic. Bound for Shinatama's page or something.

===Aggressivity===
The Daodan catalyzes physical performance, but also affects psychics : one becomes addicted to effort/violence, headstrong, and easily aggressive.

TCTF HQ terminal goes here.

(the Daodan is not mentioned in the context, but the player already suspects, after the first chapters that Mai is not 100% normal i.e. that she's enhanced in some way)
===Daodan spike===
Starting with her second and last encounter with [[Barabas]], [[Konoko|Mai]] goes through a violent physical experience after every boss fight (with the notable exception of [[Mukade]]).

The experience takes the form of a violent spasm, during which Konoko (uncontrollably?) raises her arms in the air then spreads them apart. A blue glow appears all over her body, and the sighting of this aura-like entity is accompanied by a soft humming-whistling. The fly-in panel of her face shows glowing skin and eyes, an "animal" smile, and the corresponding voiceover bears close resemblance to a female orgasm.

The spasm, known as a "powerup" to modders, is not referred to as a "Daodan spike" ingame. Rather, it's described as "consistent with the waveforms of a Daodan spike, but far more powerful." Probably a "regular" "Daodan spike" is like an adrenal spike, but "far more powerful" already ^^

It's interesting to confront the above symptoms with the concept of [[wikipedia:Ecstasy_of_St_Theresa|ecstasy]].

===Chrysalis===
First mentioned by Shinatama during her talk in {{C8}} : "They used me to monitor the growth of the Chrysalis inside you". Developed on by [[Kerr]] and his colleagues in {{C12}}. The "growth" process takes dramatic proportions in later descriptions.

Mentioned by [[Muro|Mutant Muro]] : "I am very impressed with what you have been able to accomplish without drawing on the full power of your Chrysalis."
===Mukade===
He doesn't name the Daodan explicitly during his encounter with Mai, but his allusions bear close resemblance with the descriptions of the transformation process occurring in {{C12}} and {{C13}}.
===Hasegawa===
In his diary, [[Hasegawa]] alludes to the Daodan project as a "something" that he will do to "excuse his survival" after Jamie's death, also saying "if something isn't done we are all doomed".

===Sytropin===
First {{C12}} terminal goes here.
===Transformation===
Introduced By [[Kerr]]. Stressed as alarming by TCTF scientists in {{C13}}. After you see [[Muro|Mutant Muro]], you know why ^^
===True nature===
Kerr's talk goes here
===Chrysalis removal===
Second {{C12}} terminal goes here.
===Imago stage===
Mutant muro goes here

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==Added value==
The Daodan concept is easily the most original and powerful in all of Oni. It neatly maps onto society, technology, personality etc, and it can also be considered on its own, as an appealing sci-fi concept and the embodiment of not-so trivial dilemmas (ethical and other).
===Autoevolutionary process===
The Daodan is designed so as to ''run free'' : to come up with an adapted response to complex or unforeseeable challenges, to "react as it sees fit". There are virtually no limits imposed to that "hyperevolution" by the designer. Rather than making the "patched" humans able to withstand certain types of toxins, they idea is to provide a dynamic cure for any toxin there will ever be. Which sounds very nice, but brings about a few disturbing aspects...
===Mender and catalyst===
The Daodan can either "reinforce" existing bodily structures, or "replace" them with radically new ones. This dual selection process is mainly triggered by externally applied "stress or harm". The overall, long-term effect is to "distill the quintessence" of the host, to express its "true nature" as Kerr puts it.

Practically, though, the "patch" is gradually extending throughout the host, redefining the "nature" of the host organism as it does so. That's quite close to massive cyborgization of a human body : enhancing it with synthetic patches until the body is one big patch surrounding a vanishingly small human core.
===Smart cancer===
Nanotechnological medecine, in cyberpunk and such, often features smart, hyperminiaturized robots that deal with diseases at cell level. Those robots, however, are specialized for a specific type of activity, as they are, from A to Z, the product of human designers and engineers.

The Daodan is essentially different in that it is 100% biological : it's even different from 3rd-party grafts and implants, because the tissue is originally that of the host himself. That, and the fact that both tissues ''do'' end up very different, makes the Daodan readily identifiable as an extreme form of [[wikipedia:cancer|cancer]]. Basically, the Chrysalises implanted to Muro and Mai were comparable to ''tumors'' (aggregates of cancer cells), and the different growth processes occuring then are equivalent to direct invasion and metastasis.

Cancer disrupts the fundamental equilibrium between cell division and cell death, and thus affects the organism's integrity. The Daodan does pretty much the same (note the connection of the aforementioned equilibrium to the "stability" of a host/[[Daodan]] "symbiote"). However, the initial mutation isn't random, and the process is considerably different from a proliferation of tumors, and does not result in death the way regular cancer does.

The Daodan is ''smart'' about its progression through the organism. Its core "hyperevolutionary" design is an autoadaptive upgrade of the host, which results in assimilating, "reinforcing and enhancing" existing structures, rather than going for any vital space it can get. A sort of dynamic integrity is thus maintained (if things go well, that is), and then it results in increased resilience and preservation of the host, rather than its death.

The Daodan ''serves its host as best it can''. Which is more or less the altruistic goal claimed by Hasegawa.

So, is everything fine? Not really...

===Efficience and loss of control===
The key idea of the Daodan design is that in order to achieve outstanding performance (efficiency, power), you have to ''give up control''.
That's what [[Kerr]] and his colleagues keep talking about, that's what [[Muro]] and [[Barabas]] and [[Mai]] illustrated, each in their own way : Muro escaping the [[Syndicate]]'s control in pretty much the same way as Mai escaped [[Griffin]]'s, [[Barabas]]'s more complicated case being a forced (and failed) conciliation of power and control.

Point is : with the Daodan, one should always expect the unexpected. The fact that the ''theory itself'' denies any kind of accurate control and prediction is what makes the Daodan so different from any other prototype technology. Whatever widget comes up in sci-fi, even if it never served before, one always knows what it's ''supposed'' to do.
With the Daodan, one doesn't have such luxury.

And so the very notion of "competence" doesn't really apply : [[Kerr]] is the most competent guy we see, and just what diagnoses and forecasts does ''he'' make?

What comes closest to competence is the awareness of the theory's self-imposed limitations. What comes closest to incompetence is the overlooking thereof. Rather than the overlooking of a particular element of a hypothetical control/confinement scheme, it's the illusion that control/confinement schemes are ''at all viable'' which is irresponsible. And that's pretty hard to overlook.

''Confidence'' in the upgrading process is another delusion, more comfortable and ''easier'' to overlook. Thus it is more suitable for a global-scale altruist such as [[Hasegawa]] or [[Kerr]]. Assuming that the Daodan can do no wrong is just as irresponsible as claiming full control of the consequences, be they good or bad. But in the first case, the false belief is more irrational, and thus interferes less with objective reasoning.

As for [[Muro]], he's aware of the problem, but doesn't care much about control. [[STURMANDERUNG]] is supposed to bring about eternal life ''and'' [[anarchy]] for the survivors.

===Alienation and loss of humanity===
The "power VS alienation" dilemma is best illustrated by the [[Barabas#Added value|Barabas]] experiment.

Alienation as such is best explored through the characters of [[Mai]] and [[Muro]].
====Hyperevolution of Man====
Effectively, there's a hell of a gap between a thoroughly upgraded (hyperevolved) human being and a regular human, both physiological and psychological. Actually, there's no well-defined limit or goal to the Daodan process.

So much of a difference that the Imago can be regarded as another race, another species... which is close to the basic concept of ET intelligence, no matter if the Daodan's origin is entirely human or not.
====Inner struggle====
At any given moment, the upgraded (hyperevolved and hyperevolving) biomass and the still-completely-human cells are distinguishable. There's the human host and its hyperevolved clone, the Chrysalis.

There is no ''merging'' between the "tumors" and the intact organs. As the process progresse, the human host loses its integrity as organs are "hogged" by the Daodan biomass. There's an invader, an invaded and a front line, rather than a transformation occurring uniformly over the whole organism.

Given enough time, the process extends to all of the host's systems (again, there is ''no'' limit to the field of action of the "patch"). That means the nervous system and the brain will be subject to an upgrade, too.

The biological struggle at cellular level (the host's immune response to that strange invader : an upgraded copy of itself) is a bit tedious. Once the smart cancer begins to upgrade the host's brain (who said it doesn't need uprading? sure does!), the picture gets much more juicy.

Basically it's the old clon'o'phobic dilemma (what happens if your clone or double kills you and usurpates your identity?), except the killing and usurpation happens inside one single body.

====Love====
Transiting to the Imago stage has been compared to falling in love. Passion dramatically enhances the sense of power, while dulling things such as common sense. In a way, "true lovers" don't belong to this world : they're beyond the community, beyond reason, etc.
===Goal===
The process has no declared goal other than a relentless mending of defects and catalyzing of resources. This results in a constant evolution towards "something" (perfection?).

One can then wonder what the finality is, if any. Is it the Imago stage (whatever it is?)? Can one ''avoid'' transiting to the Imago stage? If so, could ''that'' be the goal : balancing between human and Imago?

===Repeated Imago===
The Imago theory, upon reflection, brings up some unusual points. If the purest Imago state is acheived, then the Chrysilis has nothing more to adapt from. Does it simply die, or could it survive? If it lived, could it possibly be inserted with another Chrysilis?

If so, then one must wonder at the monsters that may occur...

===Meaning===
Different people with different backgrounds and motivations will likely fail to consider the Daodan concept from a philosophical or scientific point of view, and will attribute a very practical value to the entity and process, depending on what the Daodan means to them in the context.

A Daodan can thus be regarded as a tool, a weapon, a cure, an antidote, a threat, insurance, sacrilege...

===Symbiotes===
====[[Konoko|Mai]]====
====[[Muro]]====
====[[Barabas]]====
====[[Mukade]]====

===Imago===
====[[Muro]]====
====[[Barabas]]====

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==Related==
*[[Konoko]]
*[[Hasegawa]]
*[[Muro]]
*[[Mukade]]
*[[Barabas]]
*[[Daodan]]
*[[Names|Other names]]

OniGalore:Community portal

2007-05-25T03:38:55Z

The Deadly Brain:

Filling in...

==GOOD LORD, PEOPLE!==
What kind of standerds is this site held up to? A dump's? [[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 05:38, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

==Forums==
===Oni Central Forum===
;[http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum HERE! HERE!]
:This is the primary forum of the English-speaking ONI community. ^^
:Created by Harry Al-Shakarchi, it accompanied Oni's development and has been around ever since.

:As it is, OCF went down and then back up a few times since it was founded.
:Currently (and hopefully "forever") OCF is powered by the PunBB core.
:Previous instances of OCF are archivated on Oni Central and accessible from the current OCF's Index.

====Intralink fix for the ikonBoard to Infinite Core move====
:URL links are unfortunately uncompatible across different "versions" of the forum.
:More specifically, when Harry switched to Infinite Core from ikonBoard,
::the posts and accounts were preserved, but the page/post URLs changed.

Most of the cross-linking URLs in the old posts haven't been fixed, so here's a tip on how to handle the "dead links"
;Old link-to-thread
:http://mukade.bungie.org/cgi-bin/mukade/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=2;t=11
;New link-to-thread
:http://oni.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=12
(ignore the forum ID and increment the thread ID by 1)

(no such easy tip for links-to-page or links-to-post, sorry)

===OniMia on OGL.ru===
;[http://forum.ogl.ru/forum/60 HERE]
This is the Russian counterpart of Oni Central Forum above.

===OniChars===
;[http://s9.invisionfree.com/ocforum HERE]
Another old oni forum. Initially hosted on [http://www.bungie.org bungie.org] alongside '''Oni Central''' and '''Oni Central Forum''' (is that so? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]), now located on another server.

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==Official sites==
===Bungie===
(developer for PC and Mac)
;[http://bungie.net/Games/Oni/ HERE]
Oni's mini-site on the site of Bungie (Oni's developers).
===Rockstar===
(developer for PS2 port)
;[http://www.rockstargames.com/oni/main.html HERE]
Oni's mini-site on the site of Bungie (Oni's developers).
===Feral===
(distributor for Mac)
;[http://www.feralinteractive.com/?game=oni&language=english HERE]

===Take2===
(distributor for PC)
;[http://www.take2games.com/index.php?p=games&title=oni HERE]

===Godgames===
(publisher)

;[http://godgames.com/game.php?game=g3eb0518116ae5# HERE]

There ''used'' to be an ONI page on Godgames (http://oni.godgames.com/), but the content got deleted at some point, and then some joker hacked the index page, which had a few people wondering...

===OmniGroup===
(Game port for Mac OSX)
;[http://www.omnigroup.com/games/oni/ HERE]
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==Unofficial sites==
===Oni Central===
;[http://oni.bungie.org/ HERE]
The oldest ONI site around. From a few months (years?) before ONI was released to the present day, it has been providing breaking news, miscellaneous information and troubleshooting, as well as a community forum : {{OCF}}.

Like Oni Central Forum, Oni Central has undergone a few modifications over the course of its history. At the moment, the owner, Harry Al-Shakarchi, is giving the site a complete face lift, and there's not much to see. Use this wiki or the ONI2.NET portal (see below).

===OniMia===
;[http://onimia.narod.ru HERE]
More or less the Russian counterpart of Oni Central.

===Oni Online===
;[http://oni.planets.gamespy.com/community/links.shtml HERE]
A bit outdated, cool design, nice walkthrough, <s>exclusive MP3</s>

===ONI2.NET===

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==Hosted on ONI2.NET==

[http://edt.oni2.net/onimap.html/ Oni Central Forum Map] - A map showing the locations of forum members.

[http://edt.oni2.net/ edt.oni2.net] - An Oni resources site geared towards Mac Users.

User:The Deadly Brain

2007-05-25T03:34:24Z

The Deadly Brain:

A survivor of the first Deadly Brain experiments, this strange creature opted to surrender itself to the TCTF. It now works as a data compiler.