Iron Demon - Revision history

Iritscen: revised presentation of images on page, as gallery mode is too unpredictable and finicky

2025-10-25T15:38:57Z

revised presentation of images on page, as gallery mode is too unpredictable and finicky

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	===Promo screenshots===		===Promo screenshots===
	These are our best in-game looks at the original model:		These are our best in-game looks at the original model:
	~~<gallery mode="packed" heights=300px>~~		{\|
	MP arena 2-4 with Iron Demon.jpg		\|[[Image:MP arena 2-4 with Iron Demon.jpg\|x300px]]
	Iron Demon in-game brightened.png		\|[[Image:Iron Demon in-game brightened.png\|x300px]]
	~~</gallery>~~		\|-
	{\|~~style="float:right"~~		\|colspan=2 align=center\|[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]
	\|~~'''Japanese for "Iron Demon" would be... KANA~~-~~ONI?<br>(building on the proverb ONI NI KANA-BÔ) '''[[User:Geyser~~\|~~geyser]]'''<br>Or, more literally, TETSU-ONI (TETSU~~=~~"iron")? '''[[User:Iritscen~~\|~~Iritscen]]'''<br>Or KÔKI (HAGANE-ONI, HAGANE="steel")? '''~~[[~~User~~:~~Demos kratos\|Demos kratos~~]]
	\|}		\|}

	~~There's also this screenshot used in some print ads:~~		The appearance of the Iron Demon at the [[Regional State Building]] does not mean it was ever intended to be in that level. [https://carnage.bungie.org/oniforum/oni.forum.pl?read=19078 Per Hardy LeBel], RSB was one of the first levels created for the game and was used as a testbed during development.

	~~[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]~~

	The appearance of the Iron Demon at the Regional State Building does not mean it was ever intended to be in that level. ~~Per Hardy LeBel, RSB was one of the first levels created for the game and was~~ [https://carnage.bungie.org/oniforum/oni.forum.pl?read=19078 used as a testbed] during development.

	===Trailer===		===Trailer===
	In the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], the Iron Demon can be seen in two scenes: one brief shot in Regional State and one extended walk sequence in unreleased MP arena [[Pre-~~beta_content~~#~~Construction_Pit_.28The_Pit.29~~\|The Pit]] (slowed down for careful inspection):		In the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], the Iron Demon can be seen in two scenes: one brief shot in Regional State and one extended walk sequence in unreleased MP arena [[Pre-beta content#Construction Pit (The Pit)\|The Pit]] (slowed down for careful inspection):
			{\|
	[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]] [[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]		\|[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]]
			\|[[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]
			\|}

	In the second scene, a rocket launcher has been appended (perhaps somewhat hastily) to the right arm to show an alternate armament mode for the mecha.		In the second scene, a rocket launcher has been appended (perhaps somewhat hastily) to the right arm to show an alternate armament mode for the mecha.

	===Promo art===		===Promo art===
	~~The clearest~~ appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D ~~form are~~:		These are all the appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D art:
	*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|~~Iron Demon in Battle~~]] ~~and to a lesser extent~~ [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine ~~(landscape)~~.jpg\|~~this painting~~]]		{\|
	*Lorraine McLees' [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|~~Iron Demon portrait~~]]		\|[[Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|x300px]]
			\|[[Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine.jpg\|x300px]]
			\|-
			\|colspan=2 align=center\|[[Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|x300px]]
			\|}

	==Game assets==		==Game assets==

Iritscen: consistent apostrophe

2025-10-02T13:32:48Z

consistent apostrophe

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	The clearest appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D form are:		The clearest appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D form are:
	*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]		*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]
	*Lorraine McLees's [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]		*Lorraine McLees' [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]

	==Game assets==		==Game assets==

Iritscen: /* Unused sounds */ confirmed that these are the footstep sounds

2025-05-25T17:05:51Z

Unused sounds: confirmed that these are the footstep sounds

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	==Game assets==		==Game assets==
	===Unused sounds===		===Unused sounds===
	The model geometry for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). But the walking sounds for the Iron Demon were accidentally included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif (leg actuator sound effects) and SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif (~~probably the actual~~ footstep sounds).		The model geometry for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). But the walking sounds for the Iron Demon were accidentally included in the final game as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif (leg actuator sound effects) and SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif ("run hit", i.e. footstep sounds).

	===Unused script===		===Unused script===

Iritscen: added Afterlife section with Robt McLees' big reveal; corrected my speculation about the ID sounds; tweaked wording on ID mod

2025-05-20T16:51:57Z

added Afterlife section with Robt McLees' big reveal; corrected my speculation about the ID sounds; tweaked wording on ID mod

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	==Game assets==		==Game assets==
	===Unused sounds===		===Unused sounds===
	The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). ~~The~~ walking sounds for the Iron Demon were ~~in fact~~ included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif~~. There are also~~ SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif~~, which may be~~ the ~~impact~~ sounds ~~for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''"~~).		The model geometry for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). But the walking sounds for the Iron Demon were accidentally included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif (leg actuator sound effects) and SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif (probably the actual footstep sounds).

	===Unused script===		===Unused script===
	[[European Mac releases\|Some versions]] ~~of Oni~~ accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:		[[European Mac releases\|Some versions of Oni]] accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:
	#create Iron Demon before player gets here		#create Iron Demon before player gets here
	...		...
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	#start battle		#start battle

	Apparently the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level, however BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game. (According to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed.) The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the voice-acting ~~script~~, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required ~~to maneuver~~ the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.		Apparently the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level, however BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game. (According to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed.) The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the voice acting, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required for the Iron Demon to maneuver and fight within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the final game.

			==Afterlife==
			[[Image:Iron Demon in Halo 2 Foundation map.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|The Iron Demon in Halo 2's Foundation map, apparently based on the [[Marathon\|Marathon 2]] map Thunderdome]]
			In a story not revealed until May 2025, Robt McLees [https://www.youtube.com/live/Dg5xx-nGHr0?t=9778s related on a live stream] that he scattered parts of the Iron Demon in a Halo 2 multiplayer level called Foundation. (In fact it looks like he had to re-model the torso from scratch, and the other parts in the room seem to be a single part, cloned many times, which was not a component of the Demon.) The torso has been stamped with "TEST", and possibly with "[https://bluefieldsafety.com/2018/06/abandon-in-place-or-decommission/ ABANDON IN PLACE]" like the other parts in the room, as a reference to its having been cut from Oni.

	==Fan content==		==Fan content==
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	*[https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-robot/262162 This model] on TurboSquid by Ashley Davison		*[https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-robot/262162 This model] on TurboSquid by Ashley Davison
	*[http://iritscen.oni2.net/wiki/Seventeen%20Seconds'%20Iron%20Demon.zip This model] by Seventeen Seconds, used in [[Konoko Payne]] by Pierre		*[http://iritscen.oni2.net/wiki/Seventeen%20Seconds'%20Iron%20Demon.zip This model] by Seventeen Seconds, used in [[Konoko Payne]] by Pierre
	*[http://iritscen.oni2.net/wiki/bobbysoon's%20Iron%20Demon.zip This model] by [[User:bobbysoon\|bobbysoon]], based on the ~~above~~ model. This one was ~~used in multiple [[AE]] packages; see~~ [http://mods.oni2.net/node/263 ~~this one~~] ~~for a starting point~~.		*[http://iritscen.oni2.net/wiki/bobbysoon's%20Iron%20Demon.zip This model] by [[User:bobbysoon\|bobbysoon]], based on the previous model. This one was turned into an [http://mods.oni2.net/node/263 AE mod package]. The resulting Iron Demon character is used as an enemy in some mods which present battle arena scenarios.

	===Artwork===		===Artwork===

Iritscen: finally found the source for RSB being a testbed level

2025-04-12T04:27:44Z

finally found the source for RSB being a testbed level

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	[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]		[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]

	The appearance of the Iron Demon at the Regional State Building does not mean it was ever intended to be in that level. Per Hardy LeBel, RSB was one of the first levels created for the game and was used as a testbed during development.		The appearance of the Iron Demon at the Regional State Building does not mean it was ever intended to be in that level. Per Hardy LeBel, RSB was one of the first levels created for the game and was [https://carnage.bungie.org/oniforum/oni.forum.pl?read=19078 used as a testbed] during development.

	===Trailer===		===Trailer===

Iritscen: added more info on the ID's planned appearance and boss battle

2025-04-11T22:15:34Z

added more info on the ID's planned appearance and boss battle

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	The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in [[Oni]], making a notable ~~appearance~~ in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."		The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in [[Oni]], making notable appearances in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."

	There was also an intention to allow the Iron Demon to be selectable in [[multiplayer]] mode, [https://web.archive.org/web/20000110194139/http://pc.ign.com/news/9690.html per Hamilton Chu]. No reports are known of ~~this~~ being ~~possible~~ in the multiplayer ~~as demoed~~ at ~~varous~~ E3s and Macworld Expos.		The Iron Demon was stated as weighing 5 tons and standing 12 feet tall in [http://oni.bungie.org/archives/gamersrep_062000/gamersrep2.jpg this interview with Alex Seropian]. If it had appeared as an enemy in-game, the player was going to get sufficiently heavy weaponry to fight it, per the same source. The striped cylinder on the Iron Demon's back, an ammo drum, was its weak point per Alex Okita. There was also an intention to allow the Iron Demon to be selectable in multiplayer mode [https://web.archive.org/web/20000110194139/http://pc.ign.com/news/9690.html per Hamilton Chu], though [http://oni.bungie.org/special/part1/kevin.html Kevin Armstrong doubted] that it would be desirable to let players do that. No reports are known of the Iron Demon being seen in the [[Multiplayer\|multiplayer demos]] at various E3s and Macworld Expos.

	==Official references==		==Official references==
	===Promo screenshots===		===Promo screenshots===
	These are our best in-game looks at the original model:		These are our best in-game looks at the original model:
	<gallery mode="packed" heights=~~400px~~>		<gallery mode="packed" heights=300px>
	MP arena 2-4 with Iron Demon.jpg		MP arena 2-4 with Iron Demon.jpg
	Iron Demon in-game brightened.png		Iron Demon in-game brightened.png
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	[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]		[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]

			The appearance of the Iron Demon at the Regional State Building does not mean it was ever intended to be in that level. Per Hardy LeBel, RSB was one of the first levels created for the game and was used as a testbed during development.

	===Trailer===		===Trailer===
	In the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], the Iron Demon can be seen in two scenes: one brief shot in ~~the~~ Regional State ~~Building~~ and one extended walk sequence in ~~the~~ unreleased MP arena [[Pre-beta_content#Construction_Pit_.28The_Pit.29\|The Pit]] (slowed down for careful inspection):		In the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], the Iron Demon can be seen in two scenes: one brief shot in Regional State and one extended walk sequence in unreleased MP arena [[Pre-beta_content#Construction_Pit_.28The_Pit.29\|The Pit]] (slowed down for careful inspection):

	[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]] [[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]		[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]] [[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]
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	==Game assets==		==Game assets==
	===Unused sounds===		===Unused sounds===
	The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif. There are also SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif, which may be the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from ~~[[:Image:Forum discussion of Iron Demon and rocket launcher.jpg\|~~heavy weaponry]] ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''").		The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif. There are also SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif, which may be the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''").

	===Unused script===		===Unused script===
	Some versions of Oni accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:		[[European Mac releases\|Some versions]] of Oni accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:
	#create Iron Demon before player gets here		#create Iron Demon before player gets here
	...		...
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	#start battle		#start battle

	Apparently the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level~~. However~~ BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game. (According to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed.) The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the voice-acting script, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required to maneuver the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.		Apparently the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level, however BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game. (According to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed.) The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the voice-acting script, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required to maneuver the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.

	==Fan content==		==Fan content==

Iritscen: added tidbit that the Iron Demon was selectable in MP

2023-04-28T19:54:26Z

added tidbit that the Iron Demon was selectable in MP

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	The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in [[Oni]], making a notable appearance in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."		The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in [[Oni]], making a notable appearance in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."

			There was also an intention to allow the Iron Demon to be selectable in [[multiplayer]] mode, [https://web.archive.org/web/20000110194139/http://pc.ign.com/news/9690.html per Hamilton Chu]. No reports are known of this being possible in the multiplayer as demoed at varous E3s and Macworld Expos.

	==Official references==		==Official references==
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	==Game assets==		==Game assets==
	===Unused sounds===		===Unused sounds===
	The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif. There are also SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif, which may be the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''").		The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif. There are also SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif, which may be the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from [[:Image:Forum discussion of Iron Demon and rocket launcher.jpg\|heavy weaponry]] ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''").

	===Unused script===		===Unused script===
	Some versions of Oni accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:		Some versions of Oni accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:
	#create Iron Demon before player gets here		#create Iron Demon before player gets here
			...
	#See Iron Demon		#See Iron Demon
			...
	#show Konoko getting ready for face-off		#show Konoko getting ready for face-off
			...
	#start battle		#start battle

	~~So at one point~~ the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level. However BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game (~~according~~ to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed). The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the script, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required to maneuver the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.		Apparently the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level. However BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game. (According to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed.) The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the voice-acting script, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required to maneuver the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.

	==Fan content==		==Fan content==

Iritscen: /* Unused script */ wording

2023-01-12T17:37:45Z

Unused script: wording

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	#start battle		#start battle

	So at one point the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level. BGI HQ was cut ~~for time~~ while rushing to ship the game~~, and~~ according to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed. The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only ~~with~~ changes to the story, and probably the script, ~~which might have come~~ too late ~~in development~~. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to ~~write~~ the special-case AI ~~code~~ required to ~~drive~~ the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.		So at one point the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level. However BGI HQ was cut while rushing to ship the game (according to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed). The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only if changes were made to the story and probably the script, and it was likely too late to do that. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to code the special-case AI behavior required to maneuver the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.

	==Fan content==		==Fan content==

Iritscen: added comments on: hit sounds, rocket launcher, BGI script

2023-01-10T16:16:28Z

added comments on: hit sounds, rocket launcher, BGI script

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	The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in Oni, making a notable appearance in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."		The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in [[Oni]], making a notable appearance in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."

	==Official references==		==Official references==
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	There's also this screenshot used in some print ads:		There's also this screenshot used in some print ads:

	[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]		[[Image:Konoko runs from Iron Demon.jpg]]

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	[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]] [[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]		[[Image:Iron Demon walk 1.gif]] [[Image:Iron Demon walk 2.gif]]

			In the second scene, a rocket launcher has been appended (perhaps somewhat hastily) to the right arm to show an alternate armament mode for the mecha.

	===Promo art===		===Promo art===
	The clearest appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D form are:		The clearest appearances of the Iron Demon in 2D form are:
	*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]		*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]
	*[[Lorraine]]'s [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]		*Lorraine McLees's [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]

	==Game assets==		==Game assets==
	The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as ~~SNDDid_leg_2~~.aif~~, SNDDid_leg_1~~.~~aif and SNDDid_leg_3.aif, as well as SNDDid_r_hit1~~.aif, ~~SNDDid_r_hit2.aif, SNDDid_r_hit3.aif and SNDDid_r_hit4.aif (or are these latter sounds something else like~~ the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry?).		===Unused sounds===
			The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_[1-3].aif. There are also SNDDid_r_hit[1-4].aif, which may be the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry ("'''id_r'''ocket'''_hit'''").

			===Unused script===
			Some versions of Oni accidentally included additional [[BSL]] scripts for levels that were cut during development. Perhaps the most intriguing of the cut levels was [[BGI]], and the unfinished cutscene scripts for BGI include one scene with the following comments:
			#create Iron Demon before player gets here
			#See Iron Demon
			#show Konoko getting ready for face-off
			#start battle

			So at one point the plan was for the Iron Demon fight to occur in this level. BGI HQ was cut for time while rushing to ship the game, and according to the design lead Hardy LeBel, it had not gotten very far along before it was removed. The Iron Demon battle could have been moved to another level, but only with changes to the story, and probably the script, which might have come too late in development. In any case, as mentioned earlier, Bungie West did not have time to write the special-case AI code required to drive the Iron Demon within a 3D environment, and so the much-anticipated giant robot was left out of the game.

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	===Artwork===		===Artwork===
	*[[:Image:Guido - Iron Demon.jpg\|~~Sketch~~]] by [[User:Guido\|Guido Codecasa]]		*[[:Image:Guido - Iron Demon.jpg\|Rough sketch]] by [[User:Guido\|Guido Codecasa]]
	*[http://geyser.oni2.net/oni2/artwork/ToyDemon1200.JPG ~~Drawing~~] by [[User:Geyser\|geyser]]		*[http://geyser.oni2.net/oni2/artwork/ToyDemon1200.JPG Light-hearted drawing] by [[User:Geyser\|geyser]]

	[[Category:Oni history]][[Category:Characters]][[Category:BGI]]		[[Category:Oni history]][[Category:Characters]][[Category:BGI]]

Iritscen: added Abeyta's words on why the ID was cut; added section for mentioning the sounds in the game data

2022-10-02T12:27:09Z

added Abeyta's words on why the ID was cut; added section for mentioning the sounds in the game data

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	The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in Oni, but was cut ~~at pre-beta~~.		The Iron Demon is a mecha boss that was initially supposed to appear in Oni, making a notable appearance in the [[1999\|1999 trailer]], but was cut during development as [[Bungie West]] raced to finish the game. According to 3D animator Steve Abeyta, "It was scrapped because it would take too long to create a custom AI, and gameplay for it. We had to cut a lot of stuff to get [Oni] shipped, and cutting that one sucked. […] Such a large character created AI pathfinding problems as well as issues with object interaction. They're not impossible to overcome, but we didn't have the time to tackle it."

	==Official references==		==Official references==
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	*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]		*Craig Mullins' [[:Image:Iron Demon in Battle.jpg\|Iron Demon in Battle]] and to a lesser extent [[:Image:Konoko Crouching by Craig Mullins after Lorraine (landscape).jpg\|this painting]]
	*[[Lorraine]]'s [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]		*[[Lorraine]]'s [[:Image:Iron Demon.jpg\|Iron Demon portrait]]

			==Game assets==
			The model for the Iron Demon was not included in the released game data like some other "cut" content was, and we don't have its animations either (though Abeyta recalled only making "a walk cycle, firing anims, and possibly turning anims"). The walking sounds for the Iron Demon were in fact included as SNDDid_leg_2.aif, SNDDid_leg_1.aif and SNDDid_leg_3.aif, as well as SNDDid_r_hit1.aif, SNDDid_r_hit2.aif, SNDDid_r_hit3.aif and SNDDid_r_hit4.aif (or are these latter sounds something else like the impact sounds for hits on the Iron Demon from heavy weaponry?).

	==Fan content==		==Fan content==