Windows Oni vs. Mac Oni - Revision history

Iritscen: /* Mac exclusives */ clarity on whether the Omni build had the display picker, thanks to zerg

2025-12-07T03:14:29Z

Mac exclusives: clarity on whether the Omni build had the display picker, thanks to zerg

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	==Mac exclusives==		==Mac exclusives==
	The original version of Oni for the Mac did not contain any notable bug fixes or niceties except that it could present dialog boxes at startup to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni display selector.png\|pick your active monitor]] and to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni startup dialog.png\|set your key bindings]]. [[OMNI\|The Omni Group build]] for Mac OS X did not add any niceties on top of this, and lost ~~at least~~ the ~~one dialog~~ for key binding~~, if not also the~~ display ~~picker~~.		The original version of Oni for the Mac did not contain any notable bug fixes or niceties except that it could present dialog boxes at startup to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni display selector.png\|pick your active monitor]] and to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni startup dialog.png\|set your key bindings]]. [[OMNI\|The Omni Group build]] for Mac OS X did not add any niceties on top of this, and lost the dialogs for key binding and display picking.

	However the build of [[FERAL\|Oni for Intel Macs]] fixed many issues, including the following two that have not been reproduced by the Daodan DLL or OniX:		However the build of [[FERAL\|Oni for Intel Macs]] fixed many issues and restored the display picker. The [[FERAL#Bug fixes\|"Bug fixes" section]] of that article contains a full list of fixes compared against the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL, including the following two that have not been reproduced by the Daodan DLL or OniX:
	*Lens flares shining through objects.		*Lens flares shining through objects.
	*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.		*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.

	~~The [[FERAL#Bug fixes\|"Bug fixes" section]] of that article contains a full list of fixes compared against the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL.~~

	The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.		The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.

Iritscen: oops

2025-12-03T03:53:31Z

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	*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.		*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.

	The [[FERAL#"Bug fixes" section]] of that article contains a full list of fixes compared against the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL.		The [[FERAL#Bug fixes\|"Bug fixes" section]] of that article contains a full list of fixes compared against the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL.

	The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.		The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.

Iritscen: added documentation of the Classic Mac app; improved some other wording around the Mac builds

2025-12-03T03:52:49Z

added documentation of the Classic Mac app; improved some other wording around the Mac builds

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	{\|class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"		{\|class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"
	!Windows retail		!Windows retail
	!Mac demo, Mac retail<br />Windows demo, OniX		!Mac demo, Mac retail,<br />Windows demo, OniX
	\|-		\|-
	\|<center>.dat, .raw</center>		\|<center>.dat, .raw</center>
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	\|}		\|}

	To learn about the differences in how resources are stored in these files, read the articles on [[OBD:~~Instance_file_format~~\|instance files]] and [[OBD:~~Raw_and_separate_file_formats~~\|raw and separate files]], especially the "Mac vs. Windows" section in the latter.		To learn about the differences in how resources are stored in these files, read the articles on [[OBD:Instance file format\|instance files]] and [[OBD:Raw and separate file formats\|raw and separate files]], especially the "Mac vs. Windows" section in the latter.

	==Level logic==		==Level logic==
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	*Support for multibyte languages such as Chinese.		*Support for multibyte languages such as Chinese.
	*The name of a newly-acquired weapon is printed at your feet when you pick it up.		*The name of a newly-acquired weapon is printed at your feet when you pick it up.
	*New BSL commands for math, game characters, and output, listed [[~~Daodan_DLL~~#~~Added_BSL_functions~~\|HERE]].		*New BSL commands for math, game characters, and output, listed [[Daodan DLL#Added BSL functions\|HERE]].
	*Level files not ending in "_Final" will be loaded by Oni.		*Level files not ending in "_Final" will be loaded by Oni.

	===OniX===		===OniX===
	[[OniX]] is currently Windows-only, though it will come to Macs in the future. OniX ~~does not currently have more~~ features than the last build of Oni for Intel Macs (see below), but it runs on modern ~~Windows~~ machines, which sadly Mac users cannot say about the Intel Mac build since support for 32-bit apps was dropped from macOS in 2019. OniX also supports HDPI and high refresh rate displays.		[[OniX]] is currently Windows-only though it will come to Macs in the future. OniX at present has fewer features than the last build of Oni for Intel Macs (see below) but it runs on modern machines, which sadly Mac users cannot say about the Intel Mac build since support for 32-bit apps was dropped from macOS in 2019. OniX also supports HDPI and high refresh rate displays while the Intel Mac build does not.

	==Mac exclusives==		==Mac exclusives==
	~~===A deluxe game app===~~		The original version of Oni for the Mac did not contain any notable bug fixes or niceties except that it could present dialog boxes at startup to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni display selector.png\|pick your active monitor]] and to [[:Image:Mac OS Oni startup dialog.png\|set your key bindings]]. [[OMNI\|The Omni Group build]] for Mac OS X did not add any niceties on top of this, and lost at least the one dialog for key binding, if not also the display picker.
	The ~~last build~~ of [[~~FERAL~~\|Oni ~~for Intel Macs~~]] ~~is based on code that has been touched up by Bungie,~~ The Omni Group, and ~~Feral Interactive in~~ the ~~years since Oni was gold mastered~~ for ~~Windows in 2000 (see~~ [[~~History of Mac~~ Oni]] ~~for details). Thus~~ many issues ~~have been fixed~~, including the following that have not been reproduced by the Daodan DLL or OniX:
			However the build of [[FERAL\|Oni for Intel Macs]] fixed many issues, including the following two that have not been reproduced by the Daodan DLL or OniX:
	*Lens flares shining through objects.		*Lens flares shining through objects.
	*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.		*Crashes from missing textures, missing level files, and excessive particle classes.

	~~See~~ [[FERAL#~~Bug_fixes\|HERE~~]] ~~for~~ a full list of fixes ~~which is~~ compared to the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL.		The [[FERAL#"Bug fixes" section]] of that article contains a full list of fixes compared against the current state of Windows Oni as patched by the Daodan DLL.

	The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.		The major caveat with this Intel Mac build is that, being 32-bit, it cannot run on a version of macOS past 10.14 Mojave.

	===Bigger textures===		===Bigger textures===
	~~Macs support~~ 1024x1024 textures, whereas the Daodan DLL only allows up to 512x512 in Windows, although in practice this isn't much of an advantage because ~~no one will~~ go out of their way to make ~~such enormous~~ textures just for Mac players ~~when they can keep their mod to 512x512 and make it playable for everyone ^_^~~		Intel Mac Oni supports 1024x1024 textures, whereas the Daodan DLL only allows up to 512x512 in Windows, although in practice this isn't much of an advantage because modders generally do not go out of their way to make bigger textures just for Mac players.

	===BSL===		===BSL===
	Any BSL commands left in a text file with the name '''bsl_config.txt''' alongside the Oni app will be run upon level load. This is equivalent to using the "[[IGMD/global\|global]]~~" folder~~ in IGMD, which ~~the~~ Mac ~~also supports~~.		Any BSL commands left in a text file with the name '''bsl_config.txt''' alongside the Oni app will be run upon level load. This is equivalent to using the [[IGMD/global\|global folder]] in IGMD, which works in both Windows and Mac Oni.

	====Unique====		====Unique====
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	====Functional====		====Functional====
	The following commands and variables seem to work on Macs but not in Windows.		The following commands and variables seem to work on Macs but not in Windows:
	*You can see attack extents by passing an animation name to the '''chr_showextent''' command (with the '''chr_showextent_globals''' variable set to 1). You can see attack extents with the '''chr_showextent_globals''' variable set to 1 by watching characters attack (or by passing an animation name to the '''chr_showextent''' command).		*You can see attack extents by passing an animation name to the '''chr_showextent''' command (with the '''chr_showextent_globals''' variable set to 1). You can see attack extents with the '''chr_showextent_globals''' variable set to 1 by watching characters attack (or by passing an animation name to the '''chr_showextent''' command).
	*These variables can also be useful for modders: '''ai2_showastar''', '''am_hit_everything''', '''am_show_axes''', '''character_name_distance''', '''patrolpath_name_distance''', '''show_characters''', '''show_flags''', '''show_patrolpaths''', '''show_sound_all''', '''show_sound_rectangles''', '''show_sound_spheres''', and '''turret_show_debug'''.		*These variables can also be useful for modders: '''ai2_showastar''', '''am_hit_everything''', '''am_show_axes''', '''character_name_distance''', '''patrolpath_name_distance''', '''show_characters''', '''show_flags''', '''show_patrolpaths''', '''show_sound_all''', '''show_sound_rectangles''', '''show_sound_spheres''', and '''turret_show_debug'''.
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	==Developer Mode==		==Developer Mode==
	The difference in the hard-coded controls for the Dev Mode camera are illustrated [[Developer Mode#~~Camera_controls~~\|HERE]].		The difference in the hard-coded controls for the Dev Mode camera are illustrated [[Developer Mode#Camera controls\|HERE]].

	==Cheats==		==Cheats==

Iritscen: added TOClimit in place of TOCfloat template which I removed before; this is useful as a record of the articles for which we want to control the TOC level

2025-11-19T01:01:39Z

added TOClimit in place of TOCfloat template which I removed before; this is useful as a record of the articles for which we want to control the TOC level

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	{{Hatnote\|For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].}}		{{Hatnote\|For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].}}
	There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.		There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.
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	==Game data files==		==Game data files==
	The most visible difference in vanilla retail Oni is the presence of .sep files in the [[GameDataFolder]] of Mac Oni and the Windows Oni demo. This and other changes were made either for general optimization or to meet some limitation on the Mac side. Due to the fact that Mac Oni [[History of Mac Oni\|was finished after]] Windows retail Oni but before the Windows demo was made, some changes made for Mac Oni carried over to the Windows demo. (This addition of .sep files was also carried into [[OniX]].) To illustrate what sort of level data files you'll find in the GameDataFolder:		The most visible difference in vanilla retail Oni is the presence of .sep files in the [[GameDataFolder]] of Mac Oni and the Windows Oni demo. This and other changes were made either for general optimization or to meet some limitation on the Mac side. Due to the fact that Mac Oni [[History of Mac Oni\|was finished after]] Windows retail Oni but before the Windows demo was made, some changes made for Mac Oni carried over to the Windows demo. (This addition of .sep files was also carried into [[OniX]].) To illustrate what sort of level data files you'll find in the GameDataFolder:

Iritscen: TOCfloat no longer does anything in Vector 2022

2025-11-19T00:07:22Z

TOCfloat no longer does anything in Vector 2022

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	{{Hatnote\|For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].}}		{{Hatnote\|For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].}}
	There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.		There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.
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	==Game data files==		==Game data files==
	The most visible difference in vanilla retail Oni is the presence of .sep files in the [[GameDataFolder]] of Mac Oni and the Windows Oni demo. This and other changes were made either for general optimization or to meet some limitation on the Mac side. Due to the fact that Mac Oni [[History of Mac Oni\|was finished after]] Windows retail Oni but before the Windows demo was made, some changes made for Mac Oni carried over to the Windows demo. (This addition of .sep files was also carried into [[OniX]].) To illustrate what sort of level data files you'll find in the GameDataFolder:		The most visible difference in vanilla retail Oni is the presence of .sep files in the [[GameDataFolder]] of Mac Oni and the Windows Oni demo. This and other changes were made either for general optimization or to meet some limitation on the Mac side. Due to the fact that Mac Oni [[History of Mac Oni\|was finished after]] Windows retail Oni but before the Windows demo was made, some changes made for Mac Oni carried over to the Windows demo. (This addition of .sep files was also carried into [[OniX]].) To illustrate what sort of level data files you'll find in the GameDataFolder:

Iritscen: /* Level logic */ improved explanation; mentioned that AE distributes the Mac versions

2023-03-30T23:19:39Z

Level logic: improved explanation; mentioned that AE distributes the Mac versions

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	==Level logic==		==Level logic==
	The contents of the [[IGMD]] folders are exactly the same on Windows and the Mac, except for tctf_ii ({{C13}}); these changes ~~were~~ made in the logic of the boss battle ~~and cutscenes~~:		The contents of the [[IGMD]] folders are exactly the same on Windows and the Mac, except for tctf_ii ({{C13}}). When the Mac version of Oni was gold-mastered, these changes had been made in the logic of the boss battle:
	*[[Special:Diff/21491/21492\|Differences in tctf2.bsl]] (prevents Shinatama from assuming combat stance when lasers are triggered and turrets begin firing)		*[[Special:Diff/21491/21492\|Differences in tctf2.bsl]] (prevents Shinatama from assuming combat stance when lasers are triggered and turrets begin firing)
	*[[Special:Diff/21493/21494\|Differences in tctf_ii_cutscene.bsl]] (prevents Griffin from being throwable through the force field)		*[[Special:Diff/21493/21494\|Differences in tctf_ii_cutscene.bsl]] (prevents Griffin from being throwable through the force field)

			These updated BSL files are supplied to both Windows and Mac users of the [[Anniversary Edition]] for consistency's sake.

	==Windows exclusives==		==Windows exclusives==

Iritscen: /* Level logic */ finally describing the effects of the two sets of changes to the Mac BSL

2023-03-30T02:47:51Z

Level logic: finally describing the effects of the two sets of changes to the Mac BSL

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	==Level logic==		==Level logic==
	The contents of the [[~~IGMD\|~~IGMD]] folders are exactly the same on Windows and the Mac, except for tctf_ii ({{C13}}); these changes were made in the logic of the boss battle and cutscenes:		The contents of the [[IGMD]] folders are exactly the same on Windows and the Mac, except for tctf_ii ({{C13}}); these changes were made in the logic of the boss battle and cutscenes:
	*[[Special:Diff/21491/21492\|Differences in tctf2.bsl]]		*[[Special:Diff/21491/21492\|Differences in tctf2.bsl]] (prevents Shinatama from assuming combat stance when lasers are triggered and turrets begin firing)
	*[[Special:Diff/21493/21494\|Differences in tctf_ii_cutscene.bsl]]		*[[Special:Diff/21493/21494\|Differences in tctf_ii_cutscene.bsl]] (prevents Griffin from being throwable through the force field)

	==Windows exclusives==		==Windows exclusives==

Iritscen: /* OniX */ wording, noting two exclusives in this app (until it comes to Mac)

2022-10-22T02:17:58Z

OniX: wording, noting two exclusives in this app (until it comes to Mac)

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	===OniX===		===OniX===
	[[OniX]] is currently Windows-only, though it will come to Macs in the future. OniX is not currently more ~~functional~~ than the last build of Oni for Macs (see below), but ~~at least~~ it runs on modern Windows machines, which sadly Mac users cannot say about the Intel Mac build since 32-bit ~~support~~ was dropped from macOS in 2019.		[[OniX]] is currently Windows-only, though it will come to Macs in the future. OniX does not currently have more features than the last build of Oni for Intel Macs (see below), but it runs on modern Windows machines, which sadly Mac users cannot say about the Intel Mac build since support for 32-bit apps was dropped from macOS in 2019. OniX also supports HDPI and high refresh rate displays.

	==Mac exclusives==		==Mac exclusives==

Iritscen: using hatnote template

2022-07-03T00:52:28Z

using hatnote template

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	~~:''~~For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].''		{{Hatnote\|For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].}}
	There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.		There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.
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Iritscen: adding hatnote pointing to PS2 comparison page

2022-06-02T23:25:49Z

adding hatnote pointing to PS2 comparison page

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	{{UpdatedForOniX\|1.0.0}}		{{UpdatedForOniX\|1.0.0}}
			:''For a comparison of Win/Mac Oni with PS2 Oni, see [[Oni (PlayStation 2)]].''
	There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.		There are no major gameplay or content differences between the Windows and Mac versions. However, there <u>are</u> major differences in file format and minor differences in scripting functionality that modders should be aware of.
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