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:Note2: I've updated the level files to contain 20 empty corpses to prevent crashes.
:Note2: I've updated the level files to contain 20 empty corpses to prevent crashes.
==If OniSplit refuses to be used==
delete file at AE/Tools/OniSplit.exe.config

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OniSplit version control - getting there...

The SVN version of OniSplit is currently labeled 0.9.99 (same as the source received from Neo), and at this point it is different from the non-synced that I distributed through EdT.

  • "0.9.99" has only two commits (44.1 kHz SNDD export - affecting only electric spark sounds - and other minor SNDD fixes and features);
  • has a few fixes to 0.9.99 (adjustment to XML parsing rules) and new functionality for Blender import/export of animations; also some new bugs, apparently.

To restore some order, I am going to merge my fixes to SVN, then address the known bugs, and push the version number to - and use SVN-synced development from then onwards.

I am not going to create a branch for my fixes/improvements, except maybe when it comes to adding something big, like C# FBX support. If you object to this, speak now. --geyser (talk) 00:09, 29 May 2020 (CEST)

List of bugfixes and improvements planned for (feel free to add to the list if I forgot something)

  • some running/walking anims end up upside-down after reimported into Oni
  • -extract:dae -noanim -blender used on a TTRBS, make sure the output .dae file has a TRBS prefix
  • stairs_markers.dae not imported properly?
  • TRAM export: support writing of sparse keyframe data (as in Oni), as opposed to writing rotations for every frame (interpolated)
  • maybe allow the export of named TRCM (without material)
  • TGA transparency bug? (not-yet-confirmed as a bug; supposedly happens only for SketchUp-made levels; see below)

TGA Transparency bug

I extracted HQ_DOUBLED_GLASS as TGA format from vanilla Level8_Final with the OniSplit command -extract:tga. The file was opened in Photoshop and the alpha channel was visible. I then added that texture to Sketchup and applied it in a test level, it appeared transparent in Sketchup. I used the command -create:level to create a level in Oni. In the game Oni, the texture appeared opaque not transparent. When, the file TXMPHQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.oni was extracted from the test level as TGA, the alpha channel was gone or opaque.

Even if the following code was added to the textures.xml file, the texture still appeared opaque in game.

   <Texture Name="HQ_DOUBLED_GLASS">
       <GunkFlags>Transparent TwoSided</GunkFlags>

However, if HQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.tga is converted to PNG format with alpha channel, and then the PNG file is used in Sketchup, then the texture will be transparent in game.

This occurs using OniSplit version and previous versions, tested to version (EDIT: Transparency loss is observed for all glass textures, not just HQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.)

EdT 15:03, 14 May 2020 (PDST)

When you described the issue to me in PM, I didn't notice/understand the key part about applying the texture in SketchUp and then using -create:level on SketchUp's output. I thought we were talking about a simple TXMP roundtrip through TGA. Can you confirm that the texture's alpha goes opaque (or disappears) if you use -extract:tga on TXMPHQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.oni, and then immediately reimport it either with -create (either from XML with extra flags or from TGA)? --geyser (talk) 11:44, 15 May 2020 (CEST)

Regarding the TXMP roundtrip, after extracting TXMPHQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.oni as TGA, I used the command -create:txmp -format:bgra32 -large -genmipmaps, the resulting file had the alpha channel. To confirm, I replaced the file TXMPHQ_DOUBLED_GLASS.oni from the -create:level with the one from -create:txmp in the test level and it was transparent. EdT 12:35, 15 May 2020 (PDST)

This looks like an issue with the SketchUp pipeline, rather than with OniSplit, since it is only -create:level that generates a non-transparent texture, and -create:txmp actually works fine. Can you: a) provide (in PM) the level data that you are using -create:level on (supposedly a .dae file, some texture files, and some XMLs)? b) provide an example of a level that imports with transparent glass as expected (supposedly a level that didn't come from SketchUp). Thanks. --geyser (talk) 16:46, 16 May 2020 (CEST)

Sound export bug

As discussed on Discord there's a sound export bug for SNDDzap*.oni

One might record the sounds in OBS and compare it with the exported ones to generate further hints on what went wrong. --paradox-01 (talk) 13:29, 21 July 2019 (CEST)

  1. The zap sounds are randomized in an OSBD group, so recording them from the game in some identifiable way would require some extra work (custom OSBD). It's much easier to ask Mac folks for AIFF versions of those sounds. And actually, there are seven zap sounds in the PC demo as well.
  2. OniSplit slaps a 22.05 kHz header on those files, although they're 44.1kHz and have a perfectly good 44.1kHz header in Oni. Not sure why they're getting a 22.05kHz header. Perhaps Neo got confused by the sloppy documentation of the WAV header, which until my edit gave the same hex listing for the three WAV header types. Either that, or he just assumes the sample rate to be 22.05kHz by default and doesn't update it from the actual file. Will check in the code. Actually yeah, he just does as if all the sounds were 22.05kHz.
  3. Besides SNDDzap*.oni, there is one other 44.1kHz sound in PC Oni, SNDDap_hit_shld.aif; which suffers from the same export problem, although it's less noticeable.
  4. Apparently 22.05 kHz stereo sounds are correctly exported as stereo, it's just 44.1 kHz mono files that get a wrong WAV header.
  5. Will be fixing this in the latest "nightly" OniSplit (haven't yet decided on a version numbering and source control scheme).
    geyser (talk)

Page improvement

Try to click on http://wiki.oni2.net/OniSplit#CLI_tips

The section should be made to pop up, currently it doesn't. --Paradox-01

Yes, when a Divhide section is set to start hidden, it throws off the browser's ability to jump to the right spot. I've never been sure whether to have that section auto-show or auto-hide. Now that it's auto-showing, you'll see that the anchor works. --Iritscen (talk) 12:50, 12 March 2014 (CET)

Change Log

OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.90

What's new:

  • Fixes bugs with Import/Export of M3GMs (obj files).
  • Fixes euler angle issues with exported TRAMs.
  • Fixes -noanim command to produce a standing pose.
  • In the ONWC file, you should be able to reference the dae/obj file directly then you don't need the separate M3GM.
  • When exporting AKEV, quads that have script ids assigned to them are exported to separate files. This is related to BSL commands such as env_show 540 0
  • Adds option -anim-merge to export multiple animations to a single dae. Useful in dealing with walk/run or combo animations.
  onisplit -extract:xml <destination directory>  -anim-merge -anim-body:src\Path_To_\TRBSkonoko_body_high.oni Path_To\TRAMKONCOMcomb_k.oni  Path_To\TRAMKONCOMcomb_k_k.oni Path_To\TRAMKONCOMcomb_k_k_k.oni
  • Adds a scene exporter
  OniSplit -extract:dae <destination directory> scene.xml

For example if the scene.xml file looks like this

  <Node Name="camera">
       <Camera />
   <Node Name="motorcycle02">
       <Node Name="hubs">
       <Node Name="hubs_rear">

When you load the dae in XSI you'll find the motorcycle and the lab level intro camera If you select the camera and press play you'll get to see the motorcycle into animation like you see it in game

OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.52

What's new:

  • When a TRBS file is exported to xml the geometry is exported to separate .dae files, one .dae file for each LOD
  • New -anim-body option. This allows a particular body (ONCC or TRBS) to be specified when exporting animations:
  onisplit -extract:xml out -anim-body:ONCCbarabus.oni TRAMsomething.oni
  • New -recurse option for the xml exporter. Have fun :)
This extracts all linked files e.g. it starts with ONCC, goes to TRAC and then extracts all TRAMs too. (This works by replacing classes file links.)
Recursive extracted files can be re-converted recursively again.
  onisplit -extract:xml out -recurse ONCCbarabus.oni
  • Changed light color in the environment importer to white (it used to be blueish)
  • New -env-notxmp option. This prevents the automatic creation of TXMP files while importing the environment.
  • Made -normals work when importing TRBS from xml + dae files.
  • Fixed the Collada importer to work with 3DSMax exported files

OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.40

What's new:

  • support for exporting/importing sound animations to/from xml files
  • better Collada export for environment
  • support for full color transparent textures (-format:bgra32 on the command line, ARGB8888 format in an xml file)
  • different (hopefully better) xml export format for animations (this one is actually from 0.9.38 but since that wasn't mentioned here...)
  • a more or less complete animation importer. This one deservers some notes:
-unlike other importers that produce .oni files this one produces and .xml file (similar to the one you get when exporting a TRAM)
when you do
 onisplit -create:tram target_dir animation.dae
in the target dir you'll get a TRAManimation.xml file.
You need to add some stuff to that file to make it actually work as an animation. In particular the animation type, from/to states and varient needs to be set.
-For all I know this works with animations exported from Oni and modified in Softimage. If you come up with a completly new animation it should work as long as the skeleton is similar to the one used in Oni.
-Note that the geometry that is present inside the Collada file is used to compute the "vertical extents" so it better be the same or close to the one the animation is intended for.
-The biggest problem are the attacks. While it's not difficult to add attacks to the xml file, computing the necessary "extents" is not going to be easy. I guess in the end I'll have to add some command to OniSplit to do it.
-Everything else that I forgot :)


New OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.37

What's new:

  • support for transparency in the environment importer

New OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.35

What's new:

  • conversion of recorded films (.dat binary files) to xml files that can be used to create FILM .oni files
   OniSplit film2xml out_dir film.dat

New OniSplit version: OniSplit v0.9.34

What's new:

  • SNDD importer
-WAV files (.wav, mono/stereo, 22.05KHz/44.1KHz, uncompressed(PCM)/compressed(MS-ADPCM)) produce SNDD files that are compatible with Oni PC retail.
-AIFC files (.aif/.aifc/.afc, mono/stereo 22.05KHz, compressed(ima4)) produce SNDD files that are compatible with Oni Mac.

 OniSplit -create out_dir test.aif
 OniSplit -create out_dir test.wav

  • LOD support for creating TRBS files. This can be done by creating an xml file containing the following:
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <Oni Version="">
     <Instance id="0" type="TRBS">
and running the command (assuming the created xml file's name is barabus_body.xml):
 OniSplit -create out_dir barabus_body.xml
It's not strictly necessary to create 5 different geometries for each LOD. The following works just as well:
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <Oni Version="">
     <Instance id="0" type="TRBS">

  • An xml file can contain "links" to other xml/obj/dae files. For example you can have the following line in an ONWC xml file:
Assuming the file pistol.obj exists in the same directory an M3GM .oni file will be automatically created from it.
Relative paths work just as well:

  • The -create:subt, -create:txmp and -create:m3gm are sort of obsolete. They still work but now you can simply use '-create' (or just 'create'):
 OniSplit -create out_dir crate.dae
 OniSplit create out_dir -format:bgr555 -genmipmaps pic.tga
 OniSplit create out_dir subtitles.txt

  • Work in progress: the AKEV importer now reads Collada materials so the resulting AKEV is textured.
Sample levels:
TestLevel1 -- This level should look like this in-game: Image 1 Image 2 Image 3
TestLevel2 -- This level should look like this in-game: Image 1
A zip file contains the minimum needed to get a new level running in Oni. To "compile" a level extract it to a folder and run the following commands:
 OniSplit -create out -genmipmaps -format:dxt1 *.xml
 OniSplit -import:nosep . Oni\GameDataFolder\level1_Final.dat
(Of course, you need to change the output .dat file path to match your Oni installation path)
Note1: The hexagon level needs to be scaled up to work properly. Use the envscale option for this:
 OniSplit -create out -genmipmaps -format:dxt1 -envscale:40 *.xml
Note2: I've updated the level files to contain 20 empty corpses to prevent crashes.

If OniSplit refuses to be used

delete file at AE/Tools/OniSplit.exe.config