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==Old talk== | ==Old talk== | ||
===New 19-bone TRIA=== | ===New 19-bone TRIA=== | ||
Basically, a 4-legged (19-bone) character would be playable if we create enough new TRAM files | Basically, a 4-legged (19-bone) character would be playable if we create enough new TRAM files. | ||
An open question is how we force the head to be the 11th part when we use the auto-TRIA-creation of onisplit v0.9.52.0. I dont't know whether head view animation are hardcoded or stored inside the TRAC/TRSC. | An open question is how we force the head to be the 11th part when we use the auto-TRIA-creation of onisplit v0.9.52.0. I dont't know whether head view animation are hardcoded or stored inside the TRAC/TRSC. | ||
If you test the given files you can notice that the mouse axis are wrong. This might ceome from the mistake in the dae file. Haven't checked yet. -- | If you test the given files you can notice that the mouse axis are wrong. This might ceome from the mistake in the dae file. Haven't checked yet. --[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 14:47, 15 May 2011 | ||
:If by "head view animation" you mean aiming and looking around, then that information is in those special overlay TRAMs that are paired with a [[TRAS]] aiming screen (in that case, the keyframes of the TRAM do not correspond to a timeline, but rather to several looking/aiming directions: thus the pose for a generic direction is interpolated from several key poses). I may be out of touch, but I don't remember bone number 11 (or is it 0x0A?) as being hardcoded, i.e., there is nothing special about the head AFAIK; however, weapons are hard-coded to be attached to the right (or left) wrist, i.e., they have the same parent as bone number 0x12 or 0x0E. Hope that helps (then again, no, what I ''really'' hope for is a game-ready Iron Demon ^_^ ) --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC) | :If by "head view animation" you mean aiming and looking around, then that information is in those special overlay TRAMs that are paired with a [[TRAS]] aiming screen (in that case, the keyframes of the TRAM do not correspond to a timeline, but rather to several looking/aiming directions: thus the pose for a generic direction is interpolated from several key poses). I may be out of touch, but I don't remember bone number 11 (or is it 0x0A?) as being hardcoded, i.e., there is nothing special about the head AFAIK; however, weapons are hard-coded to be attached to the right (or left) wrist, i.e., they have the same parent as bone number 0x12 or 0x0E. Hope that helps (then again, no, what I ''really'' hope for is a game-ready Iron Demon ^_^ ) --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
===How about more body parts?=== | ===How about more body parts?=== | ||
Here's a quick and dirty test (<nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UuesYUvyAk</nowiki>, dead link). (Done on PC.) | |||
So far Oni allows 19 body parts. The vid shows a character with 20 parts. He was roughly put together (via xml) and is made of heads... (Duuno why he hasn't textures.). | |||
[[Image:TRBS_hit_on_20th_bone.jpg|thumb]] | |||
[[Image:TRBS_gun_fire_on_20th_bone.jpg|thumb]] | |||
There are some known and unknown problems. At least he made it into the game. ^_^ As we see in the vid the 20th body part has collision data and becomes recognized by AI as a obstacle. It also reacts on incoming attacks and has self-imunity (you cannot hurt yourself by weapon and melee). | There are some known and unknown problems. At least he made it into the game. ^_^ As we see in the vid the 20th body part has collision data and becomes recognized by AI as a obstacle. It also reacts on incoming attacks and has self-imunity (you cannot hurt yourself by weapon and melee). | ||
TRAM files with 20 bones are possible (via old xml method) but they refuse to become incorporated into the raw file archive. (onisplit will even stop you at the oni-file creation if you use the newer conversion method (dae and xml). | TRAM files with 20 bones are possible (via old xml method) but they refuse to become incorporated into the raw file archive. (onisplit will even stop you at the oni-file creation if you use the newer conversion method (dae and xml). | ||
Probably this whole thing falls under the rubric "too difficult to achieve". --[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:18, 14 May 2011 | |||
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