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:::Okay, I was totally ignorant of ZDLO's flag browser, so thank you for explaining it. I also didn't realize that PCs could display text above character's heads, but it sure explains [ | :::Okay, I was totally ignorant of ZDLO's flag browser, so thank you for explaining it. I also didn't realize that PCs could display text above character's heads, but it sure explains [[:Image:Run Loser.jpg|this]]. | ||
:::Also, you might be interested to know that I figured out why we disagree on the basic idea of making user-friendly modding tools; it came to me in a flash of insight. [https://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ ''I'm a Mac and you're a PC'']. The guiding principle behind the Macintosh was that if you provided a well-designed GUI, creative people could be more creative. It would empower them. For years, even after Windows was released, there were DOS stalwarts who insisted that it was better to have to do the hard work from the command line than to have 'frivolous' things like mice and windows. Even though no one still adheres to the command-line-is-better school of thought, that way of thinking has a hold on many of the technically-smart Windows users to this day. Once a person switches to Mac, they realize that making basic UI tasks intuitive, and making multimedia work easier encourages the user to actually ''be'' creative. There's no need to pull oneself over a technical hurdle like, say, using OniSplit from the command line (and oddly enough, you seem to support the idea of a GUI for OniSplit) in order to get things done so it's easier to let your initial enthusiasm carry over instead of getting mired in stuff that should be behind the scenes. A recent exchange from the forum (names have been changed to protect the innocent): | :::Also, you might be interested to know that I figured out why we disagree on the basic idea of making user-friendly modding tools; it came to me in a flash of insight. [https://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ ''I'm a Mac and you're a PC'']. The guiding principle behind the Macintosh was that if you provided a well-designed GUI, creative people could be more creative. It would empower them. For years, even after Windows was released, there were DOS stalwarts who insisted that it was better to have to do the hard work from the command line than to have 'frivolous' things like mice and windows. Even though no one still adheres to the command-line-is-better school of thought, that way of thinking has a hold on many of the technically-smart Windows users to this day. Once a person switches to Mac, they realize that making basic UI tasks intuitive, and making multimedia work easier encourages the user to actually ''be'' creative. There's no need to pull oneself over a technical hurdle like, say, using OniSplit from the command line (and oddly enough, you seem to support the idea of a GUI for OniSplit) in order to get things done so it's easier to let your initial enthusiasm carry over instead of getting mired in stuff that should be behind the scenes. A recent exchange from the forum (names have been changed to protect the innocent): | ||
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:P.P.P.S. This is unrelated to the above, but I have come to a point where I absolutely have to break virtually all contact with Oni, or else I'll never pick up the pieces of my PhD. I'll post an update when I delete this section, but basically that means: read-only access to the wiki at the most, maybe some updates in the form of links to freshly uploaded stuff, and definitely no chat. | :P.P.P.S. This is unrelated to the above, but I have come to a point where I absolutely have to break virtually all contact with Oni, or else I'll never pick up the pieces of my PhD. I'll post an update when I delete this section, but basically that means: read-only access to the wiki at the most, maybe some updates in the form of links to freshly uploaded stuff, and definitely no chat. | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:54, 26 August 2008 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:54, 26 August 2008 (CEST) | ||
:::Well, I'll miss our lovely chats, geyser | :::Well, I'll miss our lovely chats, geyser *rolling eyes* Obviously I won't spend the time to rebut any of the above accusations since it's going to be erased soon (and I won't miss it). I will just say, re "initiative hijacking", that I am not guilty of that per se, only suggesting something and then finding out someone was already doing it. And you're really daring me to go to town on that Oni modding tool, aren't you? I'm not saying I will, but we'll see what happens when I get to a stage where it's possible. I'd also love to write a manifesto about how programmers usually epically fail at interface design and how they need to think more about the end-user to move the profession forward, but that is really something that, as you point out, I need to demonstrate through action or else shut up about. | ||
:::P.S.: If you can't tell that my edit summary ("you should totally go for it!") was a blatant and silly trap to provoke your annoyance, which you fell squarely into, then you have my condolences | :::P.S.: If you can't tell that my edit summary ("you should totally go for it!") was a blatant and silly trap to provoke your annoyance, which you fell squarely into, then you have my condolences :p | ||
:::P.P.S.: I appreciated your speech on humility that ended with "STFU forever", clearly your plan to stay humble is working. By the way, I'd like to announce that I am changing my name to <big>IRITSCEN</big>. | :::P.P.S.: I appreciated your speech on humility that ended with "STFU forever", clearly your plan to stay humble is working. By the way, I'd like to announce that I am changing my name to <big>IRITSCEN</big>. | ||
:::P.P.P.S: I didn't plan these addendums to match yours in number, but I bet that, even being a coincidence, you find it somehow annoying. I'd just like to say that I hope your whole doctorate thing goes well, if that is indeed the stage you're at. I can hardly say that we're best friends... or even moderate friends... but I think I can call you my worst friend. So I wish you well in your endeavors while you're away. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 22:44, 26 August 2008 (CEST) | :::P.P.P.S: I didn't plan these addendums to match yours in number, but I bet that, even being a coincidence, you find it somehow annoying. I'd just like to say that I hope your whole doctorate thing goes well, if that is indeed the stage you're at. I can hardly say that we're best friends... or even moderate friends... but I think I can call you my worst friend. So I wish you well in your endeavors while you're away. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 22:44, 26 August 2008 (CEST) | ||
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:P.S: ... and what about replacing "serendipity" with "cherry picking"? I think it would be more intuitive. [User:Guido|Guido]] 10:00, 26 October 2008 (CEST) | :P.S: ... and what about replacing "serendipity" with "cherry picking"? I think it would be more intuitive. [User:Guido|Guido]] 10:00, 26 October 2008 (CEST) | ||
::Well, the meaning of "[[wikipedia:Cherry_picking|cherry picking]]" was ''really'' not intuitive to ''me'', so I had to look it up. And it's still not clear to me what exactly it means as applied to this wiki (biased sample? WTF?) or why it's more appropriate than "[[wikipedia: | ::Well, the meaning of "[[wikipedia:Cherry_picking|cherry picking]]" was ''really'' not intuitive to ''me'', so I had to look it up. And it's still not clear to me what exactly it means as applied to this wiki (biased sample? WTF?) or why it's more appropriate than "[[wikipedia:Serendipity|serendipity]]". Eventually I meant to replace this with a link to the [[OniGalore_talk:General_disclaimer]], which would be a sort of condensed site map. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:10, 26 October 2008 (CET) | ||
:::It's true that I don't think "cherry picking" is the right phrase to replace "serendipity", but the more important question is what "serendipity" is supposed to mean in the first place. You should be aware that, as fond as you are of "serendipity", geyser, I can confidently say that a lot of native English speakers do not know its meaning, and those who do, like myself, are still at a loss as to what it means when used <u>here</u>. When I first saw that the word was a link, I assumed it would link to [[Special:Random]], not a dictionary definition of the word that still gives it no context.... | :::It's true that I don't think "cherry picking" is the right phrase to replace "serendipity", but the more important question is what "serendipity" is supposed to mean in the first place. You should be aware that, as fond as you are of "serendipity", geyser, I can confidently say that a lot of native English speakers do not know its meaning, and those who do, like myself, are still at a loss as to what it means when used <u>here</u>. When I first saw that the word was a link, I assumed it would link to [[Special:Random]], not a dictionary definition of the word that still gives it no context.... | ||
:::"'''a link to the [[OniGalore_talk:General_disclaimer]]'''" o.O ...Come again, geyser? --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:57, 26 October 2008 (CET) | :::"'''a link to the [[OniGalore_talk:General_disclaimer]]'''" o.O ...Come again, geyser? --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:57, 26 October 2008 (CET) | ||