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The above thought really put things into perspective for me. Right now, our main focus for the AE is adding BGI. That's a good idea, because it was originally part of the game before cuts were made... but overall, the approach to the AE has been one of adding new content, instead of stepping back and asking what made the Oni of 2001 get the middling scores that it did. Loving what we love about the game, it can be hard to see the game objectively. We usually come up with ideas that make Oni more complex or that tweak it minorly, but rarely are we able to get to the heart of what prevented Oni from getting the highest marks. So I decided to poll the reviews that Oni was given, and use their words. It's not that we aren't capable of criticizing Oni... but it is harder for us than it is for them; they're ''paid'' to criticize! | The above thought really put things into perspective for me. Right now, our main focus for the AE is adding BGI. That's a good idea, because it was originally part of the game before cuts were made... but overall, the approach to the AE has been one of adding new content, instead of stepping back and asking what made the Oni of 2001 get the middling scores that it did. Loving what we love about the game, it can be hard to see the game objectively. We usually come up with ideas that make Oni more complex or that tweak it minorly, but rarely are we able to get to the heart of what prevented Oni from getting the highest marks. So I decided to poll the reviews that Oni was given, and use their words. It's not that we aren't capable of criticizing Oni... but it is harder for us than it is for them; they're ''paid'' to criticize! | ||
Following are some quotes that I felt offered "food for thought". I haven't bothered to attribute them; I'm not writing a research paper here; besides, I want us to focus on what was said, not who said it. All quotes come from either reviews listed on the [[Reviews]] page, or from the list that [ | Following are some quotes that I felt offered "food for thought". I haven't bothered to attribute them; I'm not writing a research paper here; besides, I want us to focus on what was said, not who said it. All quotes come from either reviews listed on the [[Reviews]] page, or from the list that [https://www.metacritic.com/game/oni-2001/ Metacritic] used to determine Oni's average score of 7.3/10. You might find it difficult to read this all at once, as it's a lot of criticism for our beloved game. '''I suggest you take it in doses''' or you will get bitter or overwhelmed, and possibly mad at me for collecting all these critical quotes ^_^; | ||
This page is titled rather informally because I want it to be viewed as only that, "food for thought", not as some task or burden that someone has to deal with; these are just things to talk about, nothing more :-). You may feel that some of the criticisms made here can't be fixed without tons of work or the source code for the game. That may be the case, but I felt it was important to be thorough, not to filter my findings for "practicality". Other things listed here you may not think to be a problem at all. If enough people feel that way, we can strike the item off the page, but I wanted to put as many critical points out there as I could find (minus a few comments that were just totally out of touch with what Oni is supposed to be). I've also left out what might be complaint #1 -- "no multiplayer" -- since that is already being worked on, and the dead horse needn't be beaten any more than it already has over the last seven years. | This page is titled rather informally because I want it to be viewed as only that, "food for thought", not as some task or burden that someone has to deal with; these are just things to talk about, nothing more :-). You may feel that some of the criticisms made here can't be fixed without tons of work or the source code for the game. That may be the case, but I felt it was important to be thorough, not to filter my findings for "practicality". Other things listed here you may not think to be a problem at all. If enough people feel that way, we can strike the item off the page, but I wanted to put as many critical points out there as I could find (minus a few comments that were just totally out of touch with what Oni is supposed to be). I've also left out what might be complaint #1 -- "no multiplayer" -- since that is already being worked on, and the dead horse needn't be beaten any more than it already has over the last seven years. | ||
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{{pullquote|color=red|inset=5%|Allied characters are few and far between, and also very stupid; at no point do you really feel as part of a 'team' in a coordinated attack. This is a shame, as it could have been a real boost to gameplay at some points.}} | {{pullquote|color=red|inset=5%|Allied characters are few and far between, and also very stupid; at no point do you really feel as part of a 'team' in a coordinated attack. This is a shame, as it could have been a real boost to gameplay at some points.}} | ||
This sounds like, not a criticism of the AI's general intelligence, but of the fact that in situations like the attack on TCTF HQ, your allies can't even follow you to other floors. This seems like a scripting flaw to me, not an AI2 problem. Also, look at gmsly's approach to [ | This sounds like, not a criticism of the AI's general intelligence, but of the fact that in situations like the attack on TCTF HQ, your allies can't even follow you to other floors. This seems like a scripting flaw to me, not an AI2 problem. Also, look at gmsly's approach to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvbTT64WDzE using teams] (see 1:40 and 1:50) and tell me that's not exactly what the reviewer would have loved to see. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 04:36, 9 December 2008 (CET) | ||
:Indeed, we can add more characters to the levels. I need to play gmsly's script sometime, but it looks good. [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] | :Indeed, we can add more characters to the levels. I need to play gmsly's script sometime, but it looks good. [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] | ||