User talk:Paradox-01/Archive1

New art by Guido

I would suggest you to have a look at my oni2.net section. I am pretty sure you have missed something ^ ^ (User:Guido)

Oh man! You are always good in surprises! I'm going to add this. Let me know when you make more of it. I'm addicted to your art. xD

Paradox-01 15:31, 19 January 2008 (CET)

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Translations issues

Hi Paradox! Been a little while since we talked. I have images from Harry to upload (Fan art), but I have to see if they're new or if any are already up on the wiki somewhere. A project for next week, I think. Anyway, here's my question: I see you have a lot of writing in the Restless Souls section. Some of it is in English, but a lot of the material is sprachen en sie Deutsche! This much foreign language frightens my narrow American brain. Anyway, it would be nice for English speakers (who don't know German) to be able to read it (like me!), but it's a lot of text and I don't want to ask you to rewrite it. May I run it through Babelfish (and clean it up, since Babelfish is far from perfect) and then post it somewhere like Restless Souls/TechnologyEN (for the English version of the Technology page)? The translation won't be great, but it will work. Also, I see you have an orphaned page called "Gapfilling" with some interesting material in English -- emails between Harry and someone at Bungie. Where is that from? It would be nice to incorporate those emails into the wiki somewhere.

P.S.: Is "ikimas" the same Japanese word I'm thinking of? As in, Amuro Ray? --Iritscen 20:52, 15 February 2008 (CET)

I watched only Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny where Kira Yamato says "ikimas" alot. According to wikipedia articles I think it's more or less a remake of various gundam series, so Kira could be influenced by the character of Amuro Ray...

Paradox-01 00:24, 16 February 2008 (CET)

@ Fan Art: so Harry gave you them (finally). I have wonder some time but wasn't in mood to ask... However, it's good you can complete the section; cheers.

@ RS: The reasons why RS isn't translated yet: it was a spontaneous porting from my old site (much stuff), the material is still "work in progress" and I am still a bad translator. - After a talk with geyser a little age ago: The plan was to translate little sections while improving them (working more out, improves concepts/theories) and write the stuff onto original pages. (For example: putting the RS SLD section in "add value" or "speculation" of the original SLD page. No need for for extra pages like "TechnologieEN".) But we all had other priorities. - Now: well .. or damn it .. I've less free time these days but I want to do something about the nightmare. Tell me a section of your interest and I will try to improve it and maybe even translate. For a bigger number of sections you will need Babelfish, hm right. In this case more English speaking wiki user can jump by, read and discussing the stuff; and this might be good .. in the spirit of a wiki ..

@ quotes: Ahm.. there's not much material.

http://carnage.bungie.org/oniforum/oni.forum.pl?read=19468 (http://wiki.oni2.net/User:Paradox-01/quotes_chef_1)

http://forums.bungie.org/oni/archive.pl?read=15104

note about influences:

http://forums.bungie.org/oni/archive.pl?read=4618

search page (somehow defunct):

http://forums.bungie.org/oni/archive.pl?

two more pages (with undocumented sources, cannot find them again):

http://wiki.oni2.net/User:Paradox-01/quotes_clearfy

http://wiki.oni2.net/User:Paradox-01/quotes_old_questions

Paradox-01 00:24, 16 February 2008 (CET)

Interesting. Thanks for the links. Sorry for such a long delay in responding, but it's hard to say what should be translated first, since I can't read any of it... maybe the sections where you comment on the quotes of the emails. There's at least one page where you have those emails in English, but your commentary is in German; it would be nice to be able to read that part.

Perhaps I can run your pages through Babelfish, and we'll see if the translation is even slightly acceptable. Then you can simply alter the wording a little if it's not correct. It could save you a lot of typing if you can start from there. I don't want to mess with your pages, so I will post the translation somewhere nearby. --Iritscen 15:55, 21 February 2008 (CET)

Okay, I just can't do it. Check this out:

Herkunft und Alter von Barabas, so wie bei vielen anderen Charakteren, zu bestimmen, gleicht Kaffeesätze zu lesen - dies wird nochmals durch sein Mutanten-Dasein erschwert... Das Beste wird wohl sein einfach ein paar Sachen festzulegen, die der gewählten Zeitlinie zumindest nicht widersprechen. Von dem was der Name hergibt, wurde im OniGalore eine nette Theorie aufgestellt mit der man Barabas' Hintergrund flicken könnte. Und ganau das habe ich nun mit einem selbstgewähltem Szenario vor darstellen. (Ein grundsätzlich freien Hintergrund stelle ich jedoch auch zur Verfügung falls die erste Variante auf zu viel Kritik stößt, die man gegebenfalls nicht mehr anpassen kann.)

becomes

Origin and age of Barabas, as with many other characters to determine resemble coffee-corrode to read - this again by to be Mutanten existence difficult more difficult... The best will probably be simply a few things to specify, which do not contradict the selected zeitlinie at least. From which the name gives, became in the OniGalore a nice theory set up with which one to Barabas ' background repair could. And ganau I have that now with a self-chosen scenario forwards to explain. (in principle a free background make available I however also if the first variant too much criticism encounters, which one cannot adapt no more to if necessary.)

I think that it would be harder for you to fix that mess than to just translate your own German. Well, whenever you have time, maybe you can do a little at a time. Just so others can benefit from your ideas. I see that you wrote a LOT of material, though, so it would take a lot of time to translate. I was hoping that Babelfish would give you a headstart, but if you read what it gives me for your pages, you wouldn't even recognize it as something you wrote :-\ --Iritscen 16:39, 21 February 2008 (CET)

Nice chaos. ^_^ In German you can move around various parts of a sentence without making it non-understandable. And babelfish seems to lack this skill.

> Well, whenever you have time, maybe you can do a little at a time.

Will do that. --Paradox-01 19:20, 21 February 2008 (CET)

Babelfish is actually used for laughs sometimes because it's so bad, but I guess I was naive in thinking that it could even give you a starting point. It would take longer to fix each mistake than to write every word from scratch.

Speaking of laughs:

Aus dem achten und neunten Band des Manga Battle Angel Alita, Last Order. (Nur um das klarzustellen: der Text handelt von Vampir-Werdung...)

becomes

From the respected and ninth volume of the Manga Battle fishing rod Alita, load order. to get straight (only around: the text acts of Vampir becoming...)

Fear the deadly fishing rod Alita! --Iritscen 19:37, 21 February 2008 (CET)

All I can say : rofl.--Paradox-01 16:00, 23 February 2008 (CET)

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List of translated pages / sections

• Restless_Souls/Ikimas
• Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Gapfilling

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List of (now) unused sections

While translating I noticed two misplaced sections. "Where went all the details?" was actually part of "Griffin in a Syndicate helicopter?" but off-topic.

• Talk:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Gapfilling#Where went all the details.F3 (contains Hardy's talk)
• Talk:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Gapfilling#Jamie (random thoughts)

Paradox, you do know about this page, right? -- Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Summary_of_2032. It is orphaned, so I just wanted to make sure you didn't forget about it. --Iritscen 20:13, 28 February 2008 (CET)

^_^ Nah, it's not orphaned but part of Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Story_factors as "{{:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Summary_of_2032}}"

I had split material bigger than 32kb and put it into separate pages.

But thanks for keeping an eye onto redlinks and such.

--Paradox-01 21:19, 28 February 2008 (CET)

Ah, good. Just checking. I never took the time to try to understand the structure of your Restless Souls pages. It's like you have your own little site as part of the wiki :) --Iritscen 21:54, 28 February 2008 (CET)

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RS pages structure chart

Restless_Souls
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+--> various links


Restless_Souls/Reconstruction
               | | |
               | | |
               | | +--> {{:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Gapfilling}}
               | +----> {{:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Global_development}}
               +------> {{:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Story_factors}}
                                                         |
                                                         +--> {{:Restless_Souls/Reconstruction/Summary_of_2032}}

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Deleted teaser

Maybe you shouldn't be deleting parts of your pages like that just because they don't seem to fit right now.

Of course they're kept in the history, but maybe you could use talk pages as a temporary dump for such stuff.

geyser 21:06, 20 February 2008 (CET)

What did he delete? --Iritscen 15:55, 21 February 2008 (CET)

.. draft of a (sucking) "message" article / teaser. link. I recently felt annoyed about it. --Paradox-01 16:17, 21 February 2008 (CET)

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Double images

> OK, why the blam did you name it "TCTF Cracked"? (edit: quote from HERE)

Well, there's another thing you don't know yet. .. ahm .. ^_^"

http://wiki.oni2.net/Image:TFTC_screen_smash_1600.jpg      (14. Jan 2008) by Paradox-01
http://wiki.oni2.net/Image:TCTF_Cracked.jpg  (1280 x 1024) (16. Jan 2008) by Iritscen
http://wiki.oni2.net/Image:Ian_McConville_Desktop_1600.jpg (21. Feb 2008) by Geyser

Now let's all say "Oops" in unison. Well, geyser and I, at least. Apparently I didn't see it in the Gallery (although it could have been there, I just didn't see it) and voila, wasted bandwidth. Who knows what Geyser's excuse is :)

I don't know where the quote came from about "why the blam" is it named "TCTF Cracked", but as an answer, I don't think I provided that name; it came from somewhere else.

I'm positive there are more duplicate images out there, but I am not looking for them until I am done with the image uploading I'll be doing in the next week. --Iritscen 19:33, 21 February 2008 (CET)

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Lorraine Art and Tutorial

Where oh where did you get those high-res images of Jamie and Hasegawa? That's really cool.

Also, and nice job carrying over the Tutorial from HTML. I just saw it for the first time. --Iritscen 16:08, 12 March 2008 (CET)

Yea, it might be one of the last big Oni secrets out there... I searched like crazy on the net but didn't found the source again. Probable not even wayback have them anymore. The images here are from a very old and incomplete back-up. ~sigh~

Paradox-01 22:00, 12 March 2008 (CET)

The official Oni page on bungie.net used to have a collection of in-game art.

(That's where the hi-res splashscreens and Hasegawa drawings are from)

They were removed for some reason when bungie.net was redesigned.

geyser 22:37, 12 March 2008 (CET)

Muhahahahar, I get sick. They still have them on the server but unlinked. I toyed with the URLs and viola.

Will upload them later, time runs out again. - Or you do it. They differ only in the numbers... ~sigh~

Examples:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Oni/Gallery/GameArt/dream_2.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Oni/Gallery/GameArt/Winlevel08.jpg

Paradox-01 23:10, 12 March 2008 (CET)

That is awesome, Paradox, great discovery. You don't have to u/l them all right now, but have you d/led all the mission start/end/whatever screens and the "dream" images to your computer? As long as you have them d/led, I can stop worrying that the Bungie webmaster will be like, "Hey, what are these unused files doing here? *delete*". --Iritscen 17:09, 13 March 2008 (CET)

Random discovers

How the Oni music CD looks like: http://www.bysmitty.com/Soundtracks/Oni/Oni.htm

Yeah, I had to look up the cover art myself just last week to apply to the Oni tracks in iTunes. I just wish that ugly Best Buy label wasn't part of the cover. (I could probably 'shop it out, but I'm too lazy.)

Oni icons for mac: http://amarsagoo.info/design/icons/index.shtml (Cannot open it. Someone, please check it. Maybe it's useful.)

I will check them out. They could be very useful for the Mac version of the Edition. How interesting that he produced only a few sets of icons, and he picked Oni as his only game to design icons for. --Iritscen 17:13, 13 March 2008 (CET)