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=0.9.0=
==0.9.0==
OK, let's give it a try: OniSplit 0.9.0
OK, let's give it a try: OniSplit 0.9.0


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EdT
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=0.9.1=
 
 
==0.9.1==
Fixed: OniSplit 0.9.1.
Fixed: OniSplit 0.9.1.


[[User:Neo|Neo]]
[[User:Neo|Neo]]
=0.9.2=
 
 
==0.9.2==
And another update to fix a small bug in the Collada exporter: OniSplit 0.9.2 (not really needed because most tools seem to ignore that error).
And another update to fix a small bug in the Collada exporter: OniSplit 0.9.2 (not really needed because most tools seem to ignore that error).


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The simplest thing to do is to try to modify the existing geometry, export from Blender and create the TRBS to see if it works correctly.
The simplest thing to do is to try to modify the existing geometry, export from Blender and create the TRBS to see if it works correctly.


Then you can try to replace the head with something simple like a cube: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/head-in-a-box.png Head in a box] :)
Then you can try to replace the head with something simple like a cube: <nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/head-in-a-box.png</nowiki> (dead link) :)


So
So
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Please take a look at these files:
Please take a look at these files:


http://edt.oni2.net/OS/MCKonoko.blend  I replaced Konoko's head with MasterChief.
<nowiki>http://edt.oni2.net/OS/MCKonoko.blend</nowiki> (dead link)   I replaced Konoko's head with MasterChief.


http://edt.oni2.net/OS/MCKonoko.dae  The exported Collada file.
<nowiki>http://edt.oni2.net/OS/MCKonoko.dae</nowiki> (dead link)   The exported Collada file.


Error message from OniSplit when creating a TRBS file:
Error message from OniSplit when creating a TRBS file:
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=0.9.3=
 
 
==0.9.3==
You need to select the "Disabled Physics" option when exporting. I also made a fix to ignore the physics stuff: OniSplit 0.9.3.
You need to select the "Disabled Physics" option when exporting. I also made a fix to ignore the physics stuff: OniSplit 0.9.3.


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:One thing I do know, is that there's no way the Collada plug-in should be v1.4. More like v0.4. Seriously. Look at the [http://colladablender.illusoft.com/cms/content/blogcategory/18/44/ progress list] and you realize how incomplete it is, not to mention the bugs. I mean, getting Blender's axes wrong? Ridiculous.
:One thing I do know, is that there's no way the Collada plug-in should be v1.4. More like v0.4. Seriously. Look at the [https://web.archive.org/web/20101211155335/http://colladablender.illusoft.com/cms/content/blogcategory/18/44/ progress list] and you realize how incomplete it is, not to mention the bugs. I mean, getting Blender's axes wrong? Ridiculous.
:Anyway, I don't have any feedback on how TRBS importing is working until I try it some more tonight, but I just wanted to thank you for all the work you've done in documenting OBD stuff and writing OniSplit. I love 3D modeling, so anything that lets me import models into Oni is super-welcome (working on an HD Griffin at the moment, in case you aren't aware). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:58, 10 April 2008 (CEST)
:Anyway, I don't have any feedback on how TRBS importing is working until I try it some more tonight, but I just wanted to thank you for all the work you've done in documenting OBD stuff and writing OniSplit. I love 3D modeling, so anything that lets me import models into Oni is super-welcome (working on an HD Griffin at the moment, in case you aren't aware). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:58, 10 April 2008 (CEST)


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=0.9.6=
 
==0.9.6==
Neo, FYI, OniSplit 0.9.5 has problems with the -import:sep command on the Mac. Here's the terminal output:
Neo, FYI, OniSplit 0.9.5 has problems with the -import:sep command on the Mac. Here's the terminal output:
    
    
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::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 07:47, 21 April 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 07:47, 21 April 2008 (CEST)


Oops, fixed: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit_v0.9.6.zip OniSplit 0.9.6]
Oops, fixed: OniSplit 0.9.6 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit_v0.9.6.zip</nowiki>, dead link)


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To test, I also put a yellow pixel at 0,0 and the outline was yellow. So I'm not sure, why I don't get a black outline.
To test, I also put a yellow pixel at 0,0 and the outline was yellow. So I'm not sure, why I don't get a black outline.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE/GITS_Cel.jpg
[[Image:GITS_Cel.jpg]]


Here are all my files related to this outfit.  Its still WIP, but I thought the cel shader effect would look good with it.
Here are all my files related to this outfit.  Its still WIP, but I thought the cel shader effect would look good with it.


http://edt.oni2.net/3D/Motoko.zip
<nowiki>http://edt.oni2.net/3D/Motoko.zip</nowiki> (dead link)


Thanks,
Thanks,
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:'''Rather, this outfit is more of my tribute to GITS, than anything else.''' Sure, but as far as tributes go, surely it doesn't have to look like Konoko dyed her hair and painted her jeans. You have to be more creative in your choice of body part meshes. I'll show you what I mean in a short while.
:'''Rather, this outfit is more of my tribute to GITS, than anything else.''' Sure, but as far as tributes go, surely it doesn't have to look like Konoko dyed her hair and painted her jeans. You have to be more creative in your choice of body part meshes. I'll show you what I mean in a short while.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:15, 3 May 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:15, 3 May 2008 (CEST)
=0.9.9=
 
 
==0.9.9==
Neo,
Neo,


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[[User:EdT|EdT]] 17:26, 8 May 2008 (CEST)
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 17:26, 8 May 2008 (CEST)


I'm a bit busy these days so I haven't touch it lately. Here's the latest version I have: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.9.zip OniSplit v0.9.9]. As far as I know it works but I haven't test it too much. Also if you do "modifications" that you want to keep then you should keep the .oni files instead of the .xml files. For know I cannot guarantee that a future version will read xml file exported by previous versions.
I'm a bit busy these days so I haven't touch it lately. Here's the latest version I have: OniSplit v0.9.9 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.9.zip</nowiki>, dead link). As far as I know it works but I haven't test it too much. Also if you do "modifications" that you want to keep then you should keep the .oni files instead of the .xml files. For know I cannot guarantee that a future version will read xml file exported by previous versions.


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[[User:Neo|Neo]]
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=0.9.10=
 
 
==0.9.10==
The latest version almost works with TRAC.  The file it creates just lacks the number of TRAM in the file and the 64 for each of the TRAM.
The latest version almost works with TRAC.  The file it creates just lacks the number of TRAM in the file and the 64 for each of the TRAM.
For reference see http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD_talk:TRAC at Offset 0x8BE 69 00, in the TRAC created by OniSplit from the .xml, its 00 00
For reference see [[OBD_talk:TRAC]] at Offset 0x8BE 69 00, in the TRAC created by OniSplit from the .xml, its 00 00
then all the following 64 that follows are 00.  So all I did was manually enter the number of TRAM and the 64 to make the TRAC work.
then all the following 64 that follows are 00.  So all I did was manually enter the number of TRAM and the 64 to make the TRAC work.


[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:58, 9 May 2008 (CEST)
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:58, 9 May 2008 (CEST)


Hmm... now that was one weird bug. Here's the fixed version: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.10.zip OniSplit v0.9.10]
Hmm... now that was one weird bug. Here's the fixed version: OniSplit v0.9.10 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.10.zip</nowiki>, dead link)


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[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:30, 10 May 2008 (CEST)
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:30, 10 May 2008 (CEST)
=0.9.11=
 
 
==0.9.11==
I was testing the.xml  import/export of ONCC and when I tried to create a ONCC I got this message:
I was testing the.xml  import/export of ONCC and when I tried to create a ONCC I got this message:


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[[User:EdT|EdT]] 18:15, 10 May 2008 (CEST)
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 18:15, 10 May 2008 (CEST)


I think I fixed it: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.11.zip OniSplit v0.9.11]
I think I fixed it: OniSplit v0.9.11 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.11.zip</nowiki>, dead link)


[[User:Neo|Neo]]
[[User:Neo|Neo]]
=0.9.12=
 
 
==0.9.12==
Sorry, now I get this error:
Sorry, now I get this error:


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OK, one more fix: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.12.zip OniSplit 0.9.12]. If you still get errors please post the xml file you are using.
OK, one more fix: OniSplit 0.9.12 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.12.zip</nowiki>, dead link). If you still get errors please post the xml file you are using.


[[User:Neo|Neo]]
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:Ed obviously had no problems opening it, and neither have I. Try and download it again, maybe. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:07, 19 May 2008 (CEST)
:Ed obviously had no problems opening it, and neither have I. Try and download it again, maybe. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:07, 19 May 2008 (CEST)
::Okay, Ed gave me another copy of the file and it works for me. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:23, 19 May 2008 (CEST)
::Okay, Ed gave me another copy of the file and it works for me. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:23, 19 May 2008 (CEST)
=0.9.14=
 
 
==0.9.14==
Ed, I don't have time to fix that bug right now but you can workaround it by changing the following line in the xml file
Ed, I don't have time to fix that bug right now but you can workaround it by changing the following line in the xml file
   <ParentCollection/>
   <ParentCollection/>
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This should fix it: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.14.zip OniSplit 0.9.14]
This should fix it: OniSplit 0.9.14 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit_v0.9.14.zip</nowiki>, dead link)


[[User:Neo|Neo]]
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[[User:EdT|EdT]] 05:48, 30 May 2008 (CEST)
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 05:48, 30 May 2008 (CEST)


http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1438/errorkd5.jpg
<nowiki>http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1438/errorkd5.jpg</nowiki> (dead link)


[[User:Gumby|Gumby]]
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=0.9.15=
==0.9.15==
Quick update: [http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.15.zip OniSplit v0.9.15].
Quick update: OniSplit v0.9.15 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.15.zip</nowiki>, dead link).
Now it should display the file path when errors like "Invalid template checksum" occur. Another small addition is a "-large" option for "-create:txmp" to allow creation of textures larger than 256x256 (normally it scales down to 256x256 if the image is larger).
Now it should display the file path when errors like "Invalid template checksum" occur. Another small addition is a "-large" option for "-create:txmp" to allow creation of textures larger than 256x256 (normally it scales down to 256x256 if the image is larger).


[[User:Neo|Neo]]
[[User:Neo|Neo]]


"creation of textures larger than 256x256" Just a short note to the inquiring minds as for why this makes sense. Oni's engine has a limitation on texture size for everything but DXT1-compressed ones in the form of a buffer that's just enough for a 256x256 texture. The buffer is allocated dynamically, so its size can be tweaked with an in-place patch, and we can now have textures as large as 512x512 or even 1024x1024 (probably a bit overkill). To Ed and Neo and [[wiktionary:to_whom_it_may_concern|WIMC]]: let's use [[AE:OMNI|THIS PAGE]] for documenting the upgrades to OMNI's engine (download links of the most recent version, list of in-place patches, eventually Mach'O modules or whatever; if the lists get verbose, we'll move them to subpages).
"creation of textures larger than 256x256" Just a short note to the inquiring minds as for why this makes sense. Oni's engine has a limitation on texture size for everything but DXT1-compressed ones in the form of a buffer that's just enough for a 256x256 texture. The buffer is allocated dynamically, so its size can be tweaked with an in-place patch, and we can now have textures as large as 512x512 or even 1024x1024 (probably a bit overkill). To Ed and Neo and [[wiktionary:to_whom_it_may_concern|WIMC]]: let's use [[OMNI|THIS PAGE]] for documenting the upgrades to OMNI's engine (download links of the most recent version, list of in-place patches, eventually Mach'O modules or whatever; if the lists get verbose, we'll move them to subpages).


[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:54, 1 June 2008 (CEST)
[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:54, 1 June 2008 (CEST)
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:'''I am also glad we hadn't made any progress yet with HD textures''' And I guess you're waiting for Yet Another Revolution for 3D models as well, hmm? Maybe you're right... It's not like we can ''really'' import TRBS right now, after all ^_^
:'''I am also glad we hadn't made any progress yet with HD textures''' And I guess you're waiting for Yet Another Revolution for 3D models as well, hmm? Maybe you're right... It's not like we can ''really'' import TRBS right now, after all ^_^
:'''straight lines and flat colors that won't benefit as much from upscaling''' Actually, ''that'' kind of hi-res textures will typically look like crap without AF. I don't know about you, but I haven't gotten AF to work on my laptop (yet). So no WOW.
:'''straight lines and flat colors that won't benefit as much from upscaling''' Actually, ''that'' kind of hi-res textures will typically look like crap without AF. I don't know about you, but I haven't gotten AF to work on my laptop (yet). So no WOW.
:'''is this patch currently applicable to the Mac version''' Are you really so eager to lose focus ''again''? ^_^ Neo hasn't located the buffer size in OMNI's engine yet, or at least hasn't documented it anywhere. Just keep an eye on [[AE:OMNI]].
:'''is this patch currently applicable to the Mac version''' Are you really so eager to lose focus ''again''? ^_^ Neo hasn't located the buffer size in OMNI's engine yet, or at least hasn't documented it anywhere. Just keep an eye on [[OMNI]].
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:57, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:57, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
:Geyser, does your laptop have non-integrated video? AF should work fine as long as you have a seperate video card, there should be an option in your video card settings to force AF and a whole boatload of other things into Oni. Remember this video? [http://gumby.oni2.net/Videos/AA.wmv Yes it is misnamed]
:Geyser, does your laptop have non-integrated video? AF should work fine as long as you have a seperate video card, there should be an option in your video card settings to force AF and a whole boatload of other things into Oni. Remember this video? [http://gumby.oni2.net/Videos/AA.wmv Yes it is misnamed]
::[[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 06:50, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 06:50, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
:My laptop's GFX card is a bit special ([http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_FireGL_T2 Mobility FIRE GL T2]) and is not recognized by ATI's Catalyst bundles. As for the drivers provided by IBM, the control panel doesn't let me enable AF for OpenGL (and DirectX controls have no effect on Oni). I'll try the few hacks outlined [http://www.driverheaven.net/mobility-radeon-drivers-support/76736-ati-mobility-firegl-t2-hp-nw8000.html HERE] some day.
:My laptop's GFX card is a bit special ([https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_FireGL_T2 Mobility FIRE GL T2]) and is not recognized by ATI's Catalyst bundles. As for the drivers provided by IBM, the control panel doesn't let me enable AF for OpenGL (and DirectX controls have no effect on Oni). I'll try the few hacks outlined [http://web.archive.org/web/20090614031049/http://www.driverheaven.net/mobility-radeon-drivers-support/76736-ati-mobility-firegl-t2-hp-nw8000.html HERE] some day.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 09:05, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 09:05, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
::Meh. That is a bit odd. But just because your computer is odd and won't let you doesn't mean that everybody has the same problem
::Meh. That is a bit odd. But just because your computer is odd and won't let you doesn't mean that everybody has the same problem
::[[User:Gumby|Gumby]]
::[[User:Gumby|Gumby]]


=0.9.16=
 
==0.9.16==
Sorry, Neo, this isn't probably the right place for non-OniSplit-related talk, but your whole Talk page is kinda devoted to OniSplit ^_^'. I've posted some files that are linked to from my own Talk page (near the bottom), which are before&after .daes. The "before" .dae is extracted from a working .oni file, and the "after" .dae is what Blender produces after importing the before .dae and exporting it back out. I'm new to how the format works, but there's definitely some issues there, and you might be able to provide some words of wisdom as to what I or the Collada plug-in are doing wrong. If you have the time. Thanks! --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 20:46, 5 June 2008 (CEST)
Sorry, Neo, this isn't probably the right place for non-OniSplit-related talk, but your whole Talk page is kinda devoted to OniSplit ^_^'. I've posted some files that are linked to from my own Talk page (near the bottom), which are before&after .daes. The "before" .dae is extracted from a working .oni file, and the "after" .dae is what Blender produces after importing the before .dae and exporting it back out. I'm new to how the format works, but there's definitely some issues there, and you might be able to provide some words of wisdom as to what I or the Collada plug-in are doing wrong. If you have the time. Thanks! --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 20:46, 5 June 2008 (CEST)


[http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.16.zip OniSplit v0.9.16]: displays a warning if the generated [[M3GM]] have too many points for Oni (over 2048); fixes bug with -normals feature (use -normals to minimize the point count). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:17, 7 June 2008 (CEST)
OniSplit v0.9.16 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.16.zip</nowiki>, dead link) : displays a warning if the generated [[M3GM]] have too many points for Oni (over 2048); fixes bug with -normals feature (use -normals to minimize the point count). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:17, 7 June 2008 (CEST)


I had a problem with the ONCCCopfemAa1 and A2 files.
I had a problem with the ONCCCopfemAa1 and A2 files.
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=0.9.17=
 
[http://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.17.zip OniSplit v0.9.17]
==0.9.17==
OniSplit v0.9.17 (<nowiki>https://cid-639aa31296681bfe.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Oni/OniSplit/OniSplit|_v0.9.17.zip</nowiki>, dead link)


:- fix for the above xml error
:- fix for the above xml error
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=Other Topics=


==Other Topics==
This is not related to Onisplit.
This is not related to Onisplit.


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PPC stuff: the latest documentation I found is this: [http://www.nersc.gov/vendor_docs/ibm/asm/mastertoc.htm#mtoc]. What bugs me about it is that some instructions I see in the Mac executable don't appear to be listed there.
PPC stuff: the latest documentation I found is this: [https://web.archive.org/web/20110227221452/https://www.nersc.gov/vendor_docs/ibm/asm/mastertoc.htm]. What bugs me about it is that some instructions I see in the Mac executable don't appear to be listed there.


Mac Beta 4: never seen it so I can't say anything about it.
Mac Beta 4: never seen it so I can't say anything about it.
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MacBeta4: http://edt.oni2.net/beta/OniBeta4.zip  If you want to see all the beta level files, send an email to me edt@oni2.net and I will give you the info.
MacBeta4: <nowiki>http://edt.oni2.net/beta/OniBeta4.zip</nowiki> (dead link) If you want to see all the beta level files, send an email to me edt@oni2.net and I will give you the info.


Have you ever tried to use Google to search for "unknown instruction" PowerPC assembly instruction or something similar?
Have you ever tried to use Google to search for "unknown instruction" PowerPC assembly instruction or something similar?


Regarding PPC assembly info I found these pages:  
Regarding PPC assembly info I found these pages [Replaced dead links with archive.org snapshots --Iritscen]:  
:http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/CompilersDebuggers-date.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000440-TP30000436-TP30001025
:https://web.archive.org/web/20090622125037/https://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/CompilersDebuggers-date.html
:http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-ppc/
:https://web.archive.org/web/20161104101935/https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-ppc/
:http://www.cs.uaf.edu/2006/fall/cs301/support/ppc/progenv.pdf
:http://web.archive.org/web/20210331181246/https://www.cs.uaf.edu/2006/fall/cs301/support/ppc/progenv.pdf
:http://the.wall.riscom.net/books/proc/ppc/cwg/cwg_toc.html
:http://web.archive.org/web/20080705115313/http://the.wall.riscom.net/books/proc/ppc/cwg/cwg_toc.html


Hope one of these will help
Hope one of these will help


P.S. I don't know if you ever looked at the jetpack hack: http://wiki.oni2.net/AE:Barabas#General_instructions
P.S. I don't know if you ever looked at the jetpack hack: [[AE:Barabas#General_instructions]]
There were 2 timers that geyser was looking for: the "flailing timer" and "that other timer that makes you die in mid-air when you've been falling for too long".  He never mentioned if he found it, have you ever come across it?
There were 2 timers that geyser was looking for: the "flailing timer" and "that other timer that makes you die in mid-air when you've been falling for too long".  He never mentioned if he found it, have you ever come across it?


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