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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_102 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_102 here]
| geyser
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| Gameplay, Daodan
| Gameplay, Daodan, Mai
| Mai won't be overpowered because she'll be matched up with many strong opponents and weapons. They will be easy to defeat one-on-one, but they'll be attacking in groups to make it challenging. "Butterfly" Mai should be similar to her original form, rather than uglifying her like Imago Muro. Maybe a hair color change when she transforms. Admits that Imago Muro was pretty overpowered because he was mostly invulnerable and reaffirms desire to time-limit Mai's powers.
| Mai won't be overpowered because she'll be matched up with many strong opponents and weapons. They will be easy to defeat one-on-one, but they'll be attacking in groups to make it challenging. "Butterfly" Mai should be similar to her original form, rather than uglifying her like Imago Muro. Maybe a hair color change when she transforms. Admits that Imago Muro was pretty overpowered because he was mostly invulnerable and reaffirms desire to time-limit Mai's powers.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_110 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_110 here]
| geyser
| geyser
| Gameplay, MainChar, Vehicles, Daodan
| Gameplay, MainChar, Vehicles, Daodan, Mai
| Mai's hair shape should stay the same, but something like a color change is needed for the transformation (makes reference to [[wikipedia:Dragon Ball|DBZ's]] Super Saiyan transformation). "Last boss fight" - you mean, fight ''against'' Mai? And wouldn't main char. be much weaker than Mai? Likes his suggestion of a more adventure-esque side story with a female investigator. "Land vehicle" he mentioned earlier would be like Konoko's bike in Oni 1; maybe you can jump onto it and ride it hands-free. Is fine with idea of gauge-limited overpower mode, but wants gauge to increase over course of game. Elaborates on interactive environment: kicking boxes, climbing ropes and some walls, breaking some objects with bare fists and some only when in overpower, and some only with heavy weapons. Also taking injury from falling down stairs (triggering rag doll physics), from being driven into wall by attack, or from running into closed door; suggests ways to prevent this from being an annoyance. Fast-moving character has to lean into turns or else they will slide/fall (at least when on bike), and with proper velocity one can run around the walls of a room. References racing games that use friction and "local gravity" to allow loop-de-loops and such.
| Mai's hair shape should stay the same, but something like a color change is needed for the transformation (makes reference to [[wikipedia:Dragon Ball|DBZ's]] Super Saiyan transformation). "Last boss fight" - you mean, fight ''against'' Mai? And wouldn't main char. be much weaker than Mai? Likes his suggestion of a more adventure-esque side story with a female investigator. "Land vehicle" he mentioned earlier would be like Konoko's bike in Oni 1; maybe you can jump onto it and ride it hands-free. Is fine with idea of gauge-limited overpower mode, but wants gauge to increase over course of game. Elaborates on interactive environment: kicking boxes, climbing ropes and some walls, breaking some objects with bare fists and some only when in overpower, and some only with heavy weapons. Also taking injury from falling down stairs (triggering rag doll physics), from being driven into wall by attack, or from running into closed door; suggests ways to prevent this from being an annoyance. Fast-moving character has to lean into turns or else they will slide/fall (at least when on bike), and with proper velocity one can run around the walls of a room. References racing games that use friction and "local gravity" to allow loop-de-loops and such.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_113 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=1#post_113 here]
| Kumo
| Kumo
| Gameplay, MainChar, Daodan
| Gameplay, MainChar, Daodan, Mai
| Likes idea of DBZ-style power-up scene. Clarifies that he meant fighting alongside Mai. In response to main char. being weaker, maybe (again, referencing DBZ) the newer generation of Chrysalis reaches maturity faster. Likes wall-running idea, suggests using it for counter-attacks a la Double Dragon [I couldn't find video of that, but here's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy59xjF21Rs#t=2m44s a video] of Double Dragon III, a game that predated Street Fighter II -- some of these moves look pretty familiar ^_^]. But wall flips would be hard to do without being able to see behind you. Suggests that Mai's hair grow when she transforms, and float in the air.
| Likes idea of DBZ-style power-up scene. Clarifies that he meant fighting alongside Mai. In response to main char. being weaker, maybe (again, referencing DBZ) the newer generation of Chrysalis reaches maturity faster. Likes wall-running idea, suggests using it for counter-attacks a la Double Dragon [I couldn't find video of that, but here's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy59xjF21Rs#t=2m44s a video] of Double Dragon III, a game that predated Street Fighter II -- some of these moves look pretty familiar ^_^]. But wall flips would be hard to do without being able to see behind you. Suggests that Mai's hair grow when she transforms, and float in the air.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=3#post_154 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=3#post_154 here]
| TheTurnipKing
| TheTurnipKing
| Daodan, Mukade, Barabas
| Daodan, Mukade, Barabas, Mai
| Explains his point that if the Daodan has become Mai, then it still *is* Mai, mentally at least. Physically, food consumption should be less since the Daodan must be drawing energy from more than food anyway. Mai and Muro were the only prime symbiotes, based off Hasegawa Chrysalises. Mukade and Barabas are Muro's attempts at modified Daodans; Baba is just strong, whereas the ninja is a "much more complete package". Shouldn't be possible to communicate with Daodan as it is analogous to a disease, but perhaps one can still guide its development. Likes cel shading, but wants whatever style is best for the story.
| Explains his point that if the Daodan has become Mai, then it still *is* Mai, mentally at least. Physically, food consumption should be less since the Daodan must be drawing energy from more than food anyway. Mai and Muro were the only prime symbiotes, based off Hasegawa Chrysalises. Mukade and Barabas are Muro's attempts at modified Daodans; Baba is just strong, whereas the ninja is a "much more complete package". Shouldn't be possible to communicate with Daodan as it is analogous to a disease, but perhaps one can still guide its development. Likes cel shading, but wants whatever style is best for the story.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=3#post_163 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=3#post_163 here]
| geyser
| geyser
| Daodan, Kerr, Barabas, Mukade
| Daodan, Kerr, Barabas, Mukade, Mai
| Doesn't agree that Daodan simply becomes a new Mai. Kerr's "expression of your true nature" speech was mostly a hopeful attempt at being reassuring. Points to her violent expression when in overpower mode as evidence of another "nature" than Mai's taking root. Agrees that Daodan has another source of energy besides food. Daodan should at least be "smart", if not "intelligent", seeing as it alters the insides of the host without changing the outside. Makes host hard to kill. Must have a purpose. If Screamers are sentient, this thing must be a genius. Thinks that some of Muro's biomass was grafted to Barabas to mutate him. That means Barabas is not prime, but Mukade must be, considering how "perfect" his abilities are, and his mental connection with Mai that she doesn't have with Shinnie or Muro.
| Doesn't agree that Daodan simply becomes a new Mai. Kerr's "expression of your true nature" speech was mostly a hopeful attempt at being reassuring. Points to her violent expression when in overpower mode as evidence of another "nature" than Mai's taking root. Agrees that Daodan has another source of energy besides food. Daodan should at least be "smart", if not "intelligent", seeing as it alters the insides of the host without changing the outside. Makes host hard to kill. Must have a purpose. If Screamers are sentient, this thing must be a genius. Thinks that some of Muro's biomass was grafted to Barabas to mutate him. That means Barabas is not prime, but Mukade must be, considering how "perfect" his abilities are, and his mental connection with Mai that she doesn't have with Shinnie or Muro.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=7#post_286 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=7#post_286 here]
| geyser
| geyser
| Griffin, Settings, Vehicles, Pollution
| Griffin, Settings, Vehicles, Pollution, Mai
| Reiterates that TCTF is no match for Syndicate, therefore team sent after Shinatama was meant to be wiped out and fail their mission. Then refers to a second team as a death squad sent after Konoko. Griffin may not be evil, but he's a clichéd "just doing his job" kind of character. And English console doesn't say anything about Griffin receiving money, so maybe the Italian has a bad translation. Downplays canonicity of manual. Reason for wanting to make Mai amnesiac at start of Oni 2 was precisely this -- so that the player doesn't have to be intimately familiar with Oni's story; we can then introduce the facts to Mai and the player at will. Reason for time skip is to allow technological development and add spice to the action. Not sure that setting the game right after Cataclysm is going to be compatible with fast-paced action. Doesn't want a depressing and desolate setting to fight in. And maybe the Humvee doesn't levitate. Questions assertion that not all ACCs blew up.
| Reiterates that TCTF is no match for Syndicate, therefore team sent after Shinatama was meant to be wiped out and fail their mission. Then refers to a second team as a death squad sent after Konoko. Griffin may not be evil, but he's a clichéd "just doing his job" kind of character. And English console doesn't say anything about Griffin receiving money, so maybe the Italian has a bad translation. Downplays canonicity of manual. Reason for wanting to make Mai amnesiac at start of Oni 2 was precisely this -- so that the player doesn't have to be intimately familiar with Oni's story; we can then introduce the facts to Mai and the player at will. Reason for time skip is to allow technological development and add spice to the action. Not sure that setting the game right after Cataclysm is going to be compatible with fast-paced action. Doesn't want a depressing and desolate setting to fight in. And maybe the Humvee doesn't levitate. Questions assertion that not all ACCs blew up.
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=11#post_537 here]
| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=11#post_537 here]
| geyser
| geyser
| Settings, Pollution, Griffin, OtherChar
| Settings, Pollution, Griffin, OtherChar, Mai
| Since "chenille" means butterfly, is tempted to name sequel Oni 2: Butterfly Effect. Going forward 20 years will allow technology to improve, new architecture to develop, and the air to become breathable, at least under domes. A new order will be established, and Griffin will be gone either way (regardless of Oni's ending), and his children will be grown up. Reiterates ideas about Mai waking up in cave with no memories. Then describes her coming back to the cave looking for a message from herself. She runs into Syndicate forces who are swarming the area looking for her, and she has to escape the cave and Wilderness and get back to Mr. Big.
| Since "chenille" means butterfly, is tempted to name sequel Oni 2: Butterfly Effect. Going forward 20 years will allow technology to improve, new architecture to develop, and the air to become breathable, at least under domes. A new order will be established, and Griffin will be gone either way (regardless of Oni's ending), and his children will be grown up. Reiterates ideas about Mai waking up in cave with no memories. Then describes her coming back to the cave looking for a message from herself. She runs into Syndicate forces who are swarming the area looking for her, and she has to escape the cave and Wilderness and get back to Mr. Big.
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