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:Etc. Anything that is not "private" to your story should be modular ^_^
:Etc. Anything that is not "private" to your story should be modular ^_^
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:52, 4 October 2007 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:52, 4 October 2007 (CEST)
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====names and memes====
'''''scratching the surface ...'''''
* Daodan-Chrysalis - word composition
:: dao - way; origin and one of things
:: dan - master degree
:: chrysalis - pupal stage of butterflies
:: chrysalide - (Greek) gold spotted butterfly, this word is used in the Frensh version of Oni
* chrysalis references and analogy
:: chenille - (French) caterpillar
:: chenille yarn - velvet-like till robust and long-life textile
:: imago - (Zoology) full developed insect
: analogy
:: - "chenille yarn" (Konoko's aura) on caterpillar stage: velvet-like, misty
:: - "chenille yarn" (MutantMuro's aura) on Imago stage: robust, or should I say damn hard^^
* other references and their analogy
: - trojan (computer program that takes control about it's host - at least: the hacker is able to control the infected machine by remote)<br>
:: ( http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=1533 )<br>
: - a humanoid movement test robot<br>
:: ( http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~mperkows/CLASS_479/S2006/AkDong_TDP.pdf )<br>
: - Chinese modern weapon-guided missile<br>
:: ( http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA108810&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf ) ( Caution: large file size - 8,16 MB )<br>
:: ( http://www.hainu.edu.cn/zy_wuzhuangbu/asp_hainu_show.asp?id=809 )<br>
: analogy
::: they are all artificial and controlled by human - might be hope for 'our' daodan =)
'''''treading a new path ...'''''
The nature of the Daodan-Chrysalis has been thought of uncontrollable. But the mutations are not random. They are controlled in sense of what is needed to survive a threat. So the next question is what factors control the mutations and what actually mutates ... Not only genes are affected by evolution.
This could ''become'' some talk of Hasegawa.
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:''When we cannot change the world we live in then we have to change ourselves. That's what evolution is: adapt or die. But since natural selection doesn't work in humans' social systems I don't know what's worse: our evolutionary idleness or the risk that our genes become altered by the will to succeed in an ill-logical competition between us which seeded also genetic discrimination. ''(Future perspective 2032 and beyond.)'' We live in a permanent unneeded struggle whereby our opinions about things are strongly influenced by self-claimed experts, trend setters, media campaigns and [[wikipedia:Neuromarketing|advertisements]]. I doubt that our current social intelligence is ready to stimulate properly our own evolution.'' (Jamie could be noted here, something like "she paid the final price, society has failed to develop the right way, so a new concept is needed", and so on and so forth.)
:''We haven't realized ourselves as one kind yet, thus, the need of collaboration. Also some animals form states but there's no competition inside. I'm not going to say that we need Communism. The idea of classless societies is incompatible with reality. Specialization has always been a necessity to form a greater organism. May it be multicellular organisms or colony-forming bacteria, there was and is division of labor in every form of society. To ensure this division, communication is needed. Exchanging information can be done in several ways. For example, bacteria can communicate by chemical signals: quorum sensing.''
:''However, societies’ advantages – efficiency increase and higher fitness – require to give up some degree of independence because of the specializations. To cut a long story short: these two new evolutionary concept – socializing and specializing – gave birth to multicellular organisms. The new physical dimensions enabled them to recognize the environment on more detailed scales and to extend their memory system.''
:[...]
:''A newer interpretation of evolution's ''meaning'' is following: not the best-adapted survive but all sufficient adapted. In fact, evolution starts inside of organisms, so you could also say it's about to survive your own mistakes.''
:[...] (Section needs further development in noting "tools", "specialization", "environment", "genetic protocols", "information", "memes", and "symbiosis" to outline the full potential of the Chrysalis.)
====The eternal discussion====
We talked about the risks and that Kerr might be biased. However, the following lines extent the aspect of control, not very much but still enough to be hope. <font color="#777777">'''"Where there is a will there is a way."'''</font>
I think this struggle can be ported into the story. Something like this:
:Sceptical scientist: "Mind-controlled, okay to a limited point, but still mind is changing during transformation at same time. Kerr ignores psycho-evolutionary consequences."
====DC genome====
This section orientates on a more realistic idea of DC skills than an almost omnipotent program - without '''[[Talk:Restless_Souls/Technology#genetical_programs|[1]]]'''.
Talk by Green Village guys or whoever suitable.
:''Mutation and regeneration ability catch one's eye.''<br>''But there's more.''<br>''The analysis confirms in advance installed but so far inactive upgrades of human genome against frost, heat, and a few other dangers. That ensures very fast adaptations to fatal environmental changes.''
=====First notes about DC project start=====
I'm still imprisoned by the thought that these two guys should have not been able to invented the DC in a few years on their own.
<!--:Kerr said: ''Your father and I were criminals, funded by the Syndicate. [...]''-->
Some devices and the genius of two. Would that have been enough? Maybe I've to rethink the scales.
Today we have already interesting instruments and methods like [http://www.ballview.org/Gallery BALLView] and [[wikipedia:Data_mining|data mining]], and the capacity of computing power around 2032 might empower scientists with virtual environments to design and ''test'' organisms in silico.
<!--* [[wikipedia:Human_Genome_Project|Human Genome Project]]
* [[wikipedia:Mycoplasma_laboratorium|Mycoplasma Laboratorium]]
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=====Mechanisms=====
: 13_65_17 Kerr: The Chrysalis is the hyper-evolved clone of its host body. As the host experiences stress or harm it grows to reinforce or replace the body's damaged systems.
: 13_65_35 Kerr: You are who you have always been. The Chrysalis can't change that. The effect of the mutation is influenced by the subject's nature.
::''By now we assume a "Dual Drive" which means that both physical* and psychical** extremes can cause a mutation.''
:: * of genetic
:: ** and epigenetic code (environmental stimuli -> emotional reaction<!--seeHippocampus--> -> changing biochemistry -> changing epigenetic code ([[wikipedia:DNA_methylation|DNA methylation]], [[wikipedia:Histone_code|etc.]])
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:''The mutation mechanism seems to be multicausal which means more analyses.<br>We suspect that the hosts' psyche means a control element which is itself interesting in matter of humans' psychical evolution.''-->
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Things to polish .. examples of mind power which change biochemistry and/or epigenetic code
*Stress (with [http://bioethicsbytes.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/epigenetics-the-ghost-in-your-genes/ twin tower example as stress event], primer example of epigenetic)
*Strong emotions like will to survive which unleashes hidden power reserves
*Power of Shaolin ([[wikipedia:Paidagong|Paidagong]])--><!--new tries goes into direction "biofeedback"--><!--
*Placiboeffect
*Pseudopregnancy
*Psychosomatic appearances
*Getting grey hair in only a few days (caused by a extreme shock)
*Stigmata-->
For example, massive stress can kick off an epigenetic mutation.
:http://bioethicsbytes.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/epigenetics-the-ghost-in-your-genes/
=====Genetical programs=====
[1] '''free adapting mutation:''' (largest program) ... the risky thing that means '''[[Daodan#Efficience_and_loss_of_control|loss of control]]'''
[2] '''enhanced regeneration:''' based on [[wikipedia:Deinococcus_radiodurans|Deinococcus Radiodurans]].
[3] '''''dual driven'' mutations that releases following pre-installed programs:''' de-differentiation based on [[wikipedia:Newt#Characteristics|Newt's]] and [[wikipedia:Turritopsis_nutricula|Turritopsis Nutricula's]] code. <!--"Deep Sea Phönix" ^_^--> Needed to give cells new functions.
[4] '''''structural'' regeneration:''' based on [[wikipedia:Newt#Characteristics|Newt]] which can regenerate limbs, eyes, spinal cords, hearts, intestines, and jaws.
[5] '''[[wikipedia:Cryophile|frost resistance]]''', [6] '''[[wikipedia:Xerophile|dry resistance]]''', [7] '''[[wikipedia:Thermophile|heat resistance]]:''' based on [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypedilum_vanderplanki Polypedilum Vanderplanki] and [[wikipedia:Tardigrade#Extreme_environments|Tardigrade]].
[8] '''toxin resistance:''' based on organisms which works in Bioremediation (Metalotolerant, Dehalococcoides, etc.)
[9] '''[[wikipedia:radioresistant|radioresistance]]:''' based on [[wikipedia:Cryptococcus_neoformans|Cryptococcus Neoformans]].
[10] '''[[wikipedia:Acidophile|acid resistance]]:''' based on [[wikipedia:Acidithiobacillus|Acidithiobacillus]].
[11] '''[[wikipedia:Alkaliphile|alkali resistance]]:''' based on [[wikipedia:Nitrobacter|Nitrobacter]].
[12] '''symbiosis compatibility:''' example of a 3-way-symbiosis result, see [[#Virus.2C_fungus_and_plant|"A virus in a fungus in a plant"]]
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[13] Anti-arteriosclerosis-gene (e.g. bears cannot get this disease)
[14] Anti-HIV-genes: mutated CCR5, Vpr*, SDFl**, TRIM22***, (HLA)–B5701 and two more****
:* http://www.welt.de/print-welt/article695104/Forscher_entdecken_neue_Ursache_fuer_Aids_Resistenz.html
:** http://www.abendblatt.de/extra/service/944949.html?url=/ha/1998/xml/19980117xml/habxml980103_2591.xml
:*** http://www.physorg.com/news123505489.html
:**** http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1143767
more interesting stuff left?-->
====Production and Implantation====
Somehow the genomic upgrades must be transferred into the stem cells. Bacteria are bigger than viruses and can take all upgrades. They burst in selected stem cells and release DNA fragments. Now these modified stem cells can be duplicated and injected into the host. In theory they become injected into conjunctive tissue and bone marrow.
====Transformation problems====
* Enzymes are released during cell division, that rise temperature. Extreme DC growths can trigger fever which stresses host cells.
* Every body develops cancer cells. In most cases suicide gene of that cell or immune system take action. But exceptions cannot be excluded. In worst case they were upgraded as well and begin to transform the body on their own...
'''Psychological impacts'''<br>
* More health and strength could give host a higher self-confidence what might violence become an option to ''solve'' problems.
* Or the host fears the powerful unknown and denies the full transformation, might rush him into suicide or something less bad by epigenetic effects.
====Symbiosis: prime and secondary symbiont====
15_57_21 Syndicate Scientist: You...you're the other prime symbiote!
* first conclusion: there are two beings having a DC
* <strike>second conclusion: host is prime symbiote, DC cells are secondary symbiote</strike>
* second conclusion: neither Barabas nor Mukade are prime symbiotes
* third conclusion: they have tissue from Muro and are now ''secondary'' symbiotes or they haven't a DC at all, or the Scientist doesn't know everything and Mukade is also a prime symbiote ([[Oni2:Truth_Number_Zero|TNZ string]]). -- Fact is "chef" said Mukade has a Chrysalis (modified or not).
====Chenille====
Every organism has a [[wikipedia:Bioelectromagnetism|bioelectric field]]. We call it Chenille field for DC wearing characters because of the game cheat "chenille" which makes Muro and Konoko glow. ^_^
Bioelectric fields plays a roll in regeneration (and might be increased during physiological stress -- unproven issue).
Example #1 on humans:
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<font style="font-size:10px">(http://www.wundzentrum-hamburg.de/download/Barbara_Temme_05062008.pdf - page 5)
"short circuit" of potentials
A wound cuts the natural membran between electrolytes and causes a "short circuit" of potentials. Resulting current flow come along with mass transport of ions.
Iones like Na, K and Cl are the current in biological systems.
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currents in chronic wounds
Wounds make the natural electric potential of skin abnormal, healing can even stop complete.
Potential gradients goes along with wound currents, they decrease with distance to wound boarder (2-3mm).
"wound current disappears when wound is healed or dried." (Jaffe L.F., Vanable J.W; Clin Dermatol 1984: 2(3). 34-44)
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Decreased charge flow in a chronic wound
Current flow is permanent positive or negative in chronic or bad healing wounds and thus interfering or blocking the physiological wound healing process.
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Electrostimulus
The electric field is an important wound healing factor.
<u>Electric field's polarity determine if wounds close or open.</u></font>
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Example #2 on humans:
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<font style="font-size:10px">science book [[wikipedia:The_Body_Electric|The Body Electric]]
Robert O. Becker began by examining why normal bones heal, and then explored the reasons why bones fail to heal properly. In the process he observed several interesting properties of bones and bone growth, proposing that bones are semiconductors and piezoelectric in nature. These tie into the healing process by <u>electrically stimulating bone marrow cells to differentiate into a form of adult stem cells</u> which regrew the bone from within by regeneration.</font>
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Example on amphibians:
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<font style="font-size:10px">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_(Biologie)
Harold Saxton Burr and Robert O. Becker found out that <u>salamanders have a positive charge during regeneration</u>. Other amphibians like Frogs don't has that charge, their wounds closes with a scar (instead of forming a new limb like salamanders do).</font>
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'''Why again was it glowing?'''
Let's say Chenille get stronger with physiological stress. Waste particle are released through body surface together with perspiration and stimulated to glow in the field.<!--[[Image:machall_oni_vs_ghost_small.jpg]] damn, where is it ?! -->
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* Day winger: enlightened
* Dawn winger: unstable
* Night winger: corrupted
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