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| Points out that, according to one interpretation of the Pandora myth, hope was an evil, a self-delusion, because it meant trying to bring about a positive future, when in fact none of us can control the future. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=22#post_3870 here] | |||
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| Posts drawing of mech that Mai could pilot at some point. Discusses [[Gunnm]] as a reference for an Oni 2, especially because the emphasis is on martial arts more than GitS, where guns are the primary weapon of choice. Also mentions Armitage. Finds the idea of a woman becoming less human to be a more unique angle for a character than all these properties with female androids becoming more human. Points to Alita's "rides" - a one-wheeled bike and her Rollerball gear. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=22#post_3877 here] | |||
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| Posts some art [links now broken]. Sees Meta less as a global government and more as a "contingency alliance between present stakeholders and interested individuals". Meta then interacts with the Syndicate and the WCG/TCTF. We should keep in mind that Konoko really meant to kill Mukade, whether or not she succeeded. Does want to bring back Mukade, but not as world ruler, but more in the role of someone associated mysteriously with Hasegawa. He's the kind of person who follows orders, and perhaps teaches Mai about her Daodan, to obtain some satisfaction from sharing his knowledge with a fellow member of a small group. But doesn't see Mukade as a "leading character". | |||
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| Griffin and Kerr and Muro all served their purpose in Oni 1. Griffin and Kerr started out Konoko on her path of self-discovery; their role is done. Muro was "simply the symbol of what Mai shouldn't ever be". We need new characters for the next stage of the story. As geyser said, there are too many new female characters, so he will try to do something about that. Posts drawing of Mr. Big in a fight, asking Mai for help. | |||
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| Posts drawing of unnamed character speaking with Mr. Big. References [[Blame!]] as an Oni 2 reference. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=22#post_3881 here] | |||
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| Critiques Guido's art, discusses his plans for his own art. Griffin's relative needn't be female. Pandora will be, and Hikari; sees interesting parallel to the Daodan process in the idea of continually upgrading Hikari. The "old man" and Meta leaders will be male. Wants to bring back Muro as well, not in the flesh, but in Mai's mind. He haunts her because of their relationship in Oni 1, perhaps confronting her, or challenging her philosophically. Since he's not real, he only knows what Mai (or the Daodan) knows. Perhaps his image is actually being used by the Daodan to communicate with Mai. He also may serve as a teacher for Mai in a training environment; since he's not real, his abilities can increase over time, to a fantastical degree, to prepare her for upcoming challenges. He can also represent, as Guido pointed out, what Mai could still become, if she follows the wrong path. So his presence in her head can paint a picture of the struggle that Mai faces, and the balance between human and the inhuman inside her. Mai can become quite familiar with this mental Muro, whereas Mukade will remain distant. This allows for ambiguity about who he really is. Although he may also serve as a sensei to Mai, he doesn't know the whole picture; he has to learn from Mai, as well. (An alternate approach: What if Mukade didn't learn about the Daodan from Hasegawa, but the other way around?). Mukade may not identify anymore with who he used to be, leading to enigmatic conversations with Mai that only slowly reveal the truth. Why is Mukade using a rifle in that art? He was already able to teleport and fire energy balls in Oni 1; imagine what he can do after his near-death experience makes him even stronger. Re: Blame!, questions how dark Oni 2 should be. Wants variety in tone, not a dark monotony like Max Payne. Doesn't like Guido's weaker version of Meta. It leaves out Mukade's struggles as leader of the world. And who rules the world then? Doesn't see a place for conventional corporations in the world of Oni 2, just Meta and the rebellion. Groups like the TCTF would be absorbed into those two sides. Names from Oni 1 like "TCTF" and "Syndicate" would now be obsolete. A new third party is fine, but Meta needs to be the centralized gov't in control. "No politics. No corporations. The state is the law. The state is the industry." Mentions web site made by war gamers which has interesting weapon concepts. | |||
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| Likes idea of Head Muro -- "What she learns, she already knows, it is just that her human mind has yet to accept the fact that she does." Perhaps one of Mukade's new abilities is creating clones of himself? Geyser's mention of "irrational hatred extended to anything related to the Daodan process" reminds him of extremists/terrorists, like in Gundam SEED. | |||
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| Posts re-drawn group fight with Mr. Big [link broken]. | |||
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| Asks if this is just a hobby or if they are connected to Bungie. | |||
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| "Do we look like Bungie?" Critiques re-drawn art of Mr. Big (he's still not big enough). Making clones of Mukade is way too similar a concept to Jango Fett in Star Wars prequels. Plus, Daodan-powered clones would be too unpredictable; Mukade needs to maintain control. Does like the idea of doubles for Mukade, however; soldiers who appear to be him, but lacking the mental connection that Mai sensed in the original. Agrees that the line between rebels/guerilla fighters and terrorists can become hazy; perhaps something to explore in Oni 2. Phoenix may have to kill people to keep them quiet when they operate clandestinely; this may lead to a crisis of conscience for Mai where she has to disobey orders. Wants to introduce Hikari in a chase sequence like Rooftops, but faster, where Mai pursues her while dodging Meta patrols. Advantage of his plans for Meta/Syndicate is that it's a simple picture of the world which we can present to the player at the start of the game; later we can reveal that not all is as it seems, or introduce new factions, but the initial setting will be easy to understand. | |||
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