Oni2 talk:Truth Number Zero/Digest: Difference between revisions

:::2. "we couldn't get backup from any legitimate source" is just Kerr fumbling for words as he tells Mai's story, so it's full of understatement and open to interpretation. But it ''does'' imply that the project was too risky and/or unethical by WCG standards. This means that Hasegawa's "official plan" - to make the human civilization pollution-resistant - was never going to work, one way or another. He couldn't make/spread the cure with WCG support, and he couldn't complete the project under the Syndicate's wing, either - because giving out the cure to everyone is "too nice" and brings no new profit or influence. At "best", the Syndicate would have ended up ''selling'' Chrysalises to the highest bidder, maybe with extra bio-terrorism to motivate their clients - which is close enough to what we see in Oni (Muro's STURMANDERUNG), but hardly in line with Hasegawa's altruism.

:::3. "the WCG is very strict about high tech and regenerative meds, see inaction: letting people die because of overpopulation." -- sorry, I don't see what you're getting at. That the WCG wouldn't have backed up the Daodan project even if it was proven 100% safe and ethical and kawaii? (because if undermines the WCG's authority by taking away the BioCrisis threat) - well, sure, that's one of my points too, but it does ''not'' demonstrate that the Daodan looked 100% safe and ethical and kawaii when the project started - by design it's "smart cancer" that overcomes disease by filling you with tumors.

:::4. Even if the Daodan did not seem dangerous at the planning stage (and was rejected by the WCG for other reasons), the risks certainly became clear while working on the first prototypes. When Kerr says "we never planned to implant those Chrysalises", he can only mean that the risks for Muro and Mai were too great. Whe he implanted Mai's Chrysalis later, it took some hard persuasion from Griffin.   

:::5. "See Bertram Navarre (propaganda: pirate island, really?)." -- You are suggesting that the Picasso Island record is a badly written cover-up, but for what, exactly? Admittedly it's a bit cheesy, but you can't dismiss all of Oni's cheesiness as "propaganda", or there won't be much left. By the way, it's not a pirate island, but a freak scientist's lab; the pirates were just hired to abduct test subjects.

::My most objective problem is that the "team of two" would have needed a genius AI coder, and - if the Daodan is indeed the fruit of Computer-Assisted Design - it is this improbable "AI specialist" who should get most of the credit for the invention. As far as we can see, Kerr and Hasegawa are both biologists with a background in computing science, not the other way around. So they might know a thing or two about protein folding, but when it comes to designing completely new life processes on a computer - if that's even possible! - someone else would need to formulate the problem, set up the "deep learning" scheme, and more generally do some regular maintenance work on those q-bit arrays (of which there would need to be a ''lot'').

::To me, Daodan symbiosis works as a "leap of faith" (both for an unwitting subject such as Mai and for the "designers" of the project, like Hasegawa - Kerr's "true nature" tirades are a good example). It is much less convincing as "controlled technology" or "calculated risk" - Griffin's failure is a testament to that. The only guarantees about the Daodan is that it will deceive ''any'' expectations - other than expressing the "true nature" of its host (whatever that means) - and elude ''any'' form of control. It can be "invented"/"discovered", but not "mastered" or "harnessed" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 20:47, 21 May 2020 (CEST)