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==Work== | ==Work== | ||
It isn't much, and i don't have the time and equipment to polish it up, but it is a start.--[[User:LastmanSAC|LastmanSAC]] 14:44, 1 September 2007 (CEST) | It isn't much, and i don't have the time and equipment to polish it up, but it is a start.--[[User:LastmanSAC|LastmanSAC]] 14:44, 1 September 2007 (CEST) | ||
==Speculation== | |||
=== | ===Newspaper article reconstruction=== | ||
The left column of [[:Image:Dream_1_murder_or_mercy.jpg|this larger version of the newspaper article]] is totally readable (the text stops right where the fade to black occurs), but only a fraction of the right column can be read. Below we spell out exactly what can be seen of both columns, and then make a reconstruction attempt of the right column. Also see the verbal account of the event from [[Quotes/Speech#Intro_4|Hasegawa in Chapter 11]]. | |||
{|border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 | {|border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 | ||
|colspan= | |colspan=3|<b>GRAD STUDENT DIES<br>MURDER OR MERCY</b> | ||
|- | |- | ||
|width= | |width=360px| | ||
'''NEO TOKYO''' - A horrible scene unfolded yesterday<br> | |||
at the Fuji Region Wilderness Preserve. Jamie Kerr<br> | at the Fuji Region Wilderness Preserve. Jamie Kerr<br> | ||
Hasegawa, environment activist, top grad student,<br> | Hasegawa, environment activist, top grad student,<br> | ||
mother of two was found dead. Her grief-stricken<br> | mother of two was found dead. Her grief-stricken<br> | ||
husband, Prof. Hasegawa, is being held suspect for<br> | husband, Prof. Hasegawa, is being held suspect for<br> | ||
murder or homicide. | murder or homicide. Officials from the Center for<br> | ||
Disease Control, however, attest that Hasegawa shot<br> | Disease Control, however, attest that Hasegawa shot<br> | ||
his wife to give her a merciful death. Mrs. | his wife to give her a merciful death. Mrs. Haseg'''[a]'''wa<br> | ||
had apparently con | had apparently con'''[t]'''racted a new fatal viral infection<br> | ||
that caused complete cellular breakdown. Investigators<br> | that caused complete cellular breakdown. Investigators<br> | ||
fail to identify the DNA trace of the virus which has<br> | fail'''[ed]''' to identify the DNA trace of the virus which has<br> | ||
the CDC in a panic. | the CDC in a panic.<br><br> | ||
The Hasegawas had embarked on an unauthorized<br> | The Hasegawas had embarked on an unauthorized<br> | ||
investigation to uncover the truth behind the WPS<br> | investigation to uncover the truth behind the WPS<br> | ||
territories and the government’s supposed land<br> | territories and the government’s supposed land<br> | ||
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reclamation project. A[...]<br> | reclamation project. A[...]<br> | ||
they had gone into the [ | they had gone into the [W?][...]<br> | ||
his wife brushed her | his wife brushed her [...]<br> | ||
of a flowering shru[b] [...]<br> | of a flowering shru[b] [...]<br> | ||
Within minutes of [...]<br> | Within minutes of [...]<br> | ||
little scratch bec | little scratch bec[...]<br> | ||
into a large ulc[er][...]<br> | into a large ulc[er] [...]<br> | ||
Hasegawa, the [w ?] [...]<br> | Hasegawa, the [w?][...]<br> | ||
scratch and l[e ?] [...]<br> | scratch and l[e?][...]<br> | ||
Hasegawa | Hasegawa ap[p?][...]<br> | ||
hour and w[a ?] [...]<br> | hour and w[a?][...]<br> | ||
wracked wi | wracked wi[...]<br> | ||
that the vi | that the vi[...]<br> | ||
nervous [...]<br> | nervous [...]<br> | ||
internal[...]<br> | internal [...]<br> | ||
Haseg[awa] [...] | |||
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reclamation project. A<font color="#777777">ccording to Mr. Hasegawa,</font><br> | |||
they had gone into the <font color="#777777">Wilderness Preserve, where</font><br> | |||
his wife brushed her <font color="#777777">leg against a thorny branch</font><br> | |||
of a flowering shrub. <font color="#777777">They went on with no concern</font>.<br> | |||
Within minutes of <font color="#777777">this incident, what started as a</font><br> | |||
little scratch bec<font color="#777777">ame a swelling wound, then grew</font><br> | |||
into a large ulc<font color="#777777">er. According to the statement of Prof.</font><br> | |||
Hasegawa, the <font color="#777777">wound's infection spread out from the</font><br> | |||
scratch and l<font color="#777777">esions began forming from head to toe.</font><br> | |||
Hasegawa ap<font color="#777777">plied three hypos over the course of an</font><br> | |||
hour and w<font color="#777777">aited for signs of recovery, but she was</font><br> | |||
wracked wi<font color="#777777">th agonizing pains instead. It seemed</font><br> | |||
that the vi<font color="#777777">rus was attacking even Mrs. Hasegawa's</font><br> | |||
nervous <font color="#777777">system, and she was unable to move. The</font><br> | |||
internal <font color="#777777">hemorrhaging could not be stopped. Prof.</font><br> | |||
Haseg<font color="#777777">awa stated that it was an unbearable scene.</font> | |||
|} | |} | ||
===Conspiracy theories=== | |||
* Can it be: such an article in a censored media? This [[Quotes/Manual#The Technology Crimes Task Force (TCTF)|techno-phobia]] might be one more ‘insurance’ that no civilians will explore the zones on their own anymore.<br>If we think that way maybe someone other killed Jamie – not a virus but the TCTF or the rangers. Then Haseagawa’s file (in the state building) would be a fake.<br>On the other hand Kerr would have told Konoko about this fake, wouldn’t he?<br>In sum the article might be half true. It might be a virus and WCG dictated [[wikipedia:Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention|CDC]] (Centers for Disease Control <font color="#777">and Prevention</font>) what saying in public. | |||
[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:34, 9 September 2007 (CEST) | * WPS ? Maybe "World Police State" as an early placeholder for WCG like BGI for "Bad Guys International"...<br>An Other suggestion from https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WPS is e.g. "Worst Possible Scenario". | ||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:34, 9 September 2007 (CEST) | |||
:Initials, initials... :) | :Initials, initials... :) | ||
:WPS: WP = Wilderness Preserve, duh. S = Sector, whatever. | :WPS: WP = Wilderness Preserve, duh. S = Sector, whatever. | ||
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*[''The virus was not playing the big role.''] | |||
*[''The virus was not playing the big | |||
'''possible sympathizer:''' WCG and/or Mukade<br> | '''possible sympathizer:''' WCG and/or Mukade<br> | ||
'''pro:'''<br> | '''pro:'''<br> | ||
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*[A natural virus.] It might be a self-disintegrating virus. Idea from: ''Investigators fail to identify the DNA trace of the virus'' | *[A natural virus.] It might be a self-disintegrating virus. Idea from: ''Investigators fail to identify the DNA trace of the virus'' | ||
'''possible sympathizer:''' Hasegawa<br> | '''possible sympathizer:''' Hasegawa<br> | ||
'''pro:''' | '''pro:''' There wasn't any useful DNA(/RNA) traces.<br> | ||
'''con:''' When there weren't traces how they could said "it's a virus" ?<br> | '''con:''' When there weren't traces how they could said "it's a virus" ?<br> | ||
'''pro:''' | '''pro:''' The symptoms (infection) spread over Jamie's body.<br> | ||
'''use:''' Hasegawa needs this to say stuff like "we are all doomed because WCG didn't do something against this" | '''use:''' Hasegawa needs this to say stuff like "we are all doomed because WCG didn't do something against this" | ||
*[An artificial virus.] Insider said it was a foreign menace to WCG; an ''announced accident''. They | *[An artificial virus.] Insider said it was a foreign menace to WCG; an ''announced accident''. They played down the event by not mentioning the dead rangers there lying around. | ||
'''possible sympathizer:''' unknown<br> | '''possible sympathizer:''' unknown<br> | ||
'''pro:''' It's an freaky killer virus, why it don't went into an epidemic? It was controlled, the military origin is obviously.<br> | '''pro:''' It's an freaky killer virus, why it don't went into an epidemic? It was controlled, the military origin is obviously.<br> | ||
'''pro:''' | '''pro:''' There wasn't any useful DNA(/RNA) traces ...<br> | ||
'''notes:''' ... | '''notes:''' ... so they could never create a vaccine. It's perfect as new biological weapon.<br> | ||
'''con:''' | '''con:''' There's less than good evidence for this thought.<br> | ||
'''pro:''' ''Of course there' | '''pro:''' ''Of course there're no ...''<br> | ||
'''use:''' [just an idea so far] | '''use:''' [just an idea so far] | ||
:[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:29, 4 January 2008 (CET) | :[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:29, 4 January 2008 (CET) | ||
*Hmph, don't forget non-viral pathogens, e.g., toxins. | |||
:Maybe (re)read Crichton's "Andromeda" for a few ideas. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 23:30, 5 January 2008 (CET) | |||
:You seem ''very happy'' about this. Why not saying clearly what you like to have changed? | |||
:About Crichton's "Andromeda": I read a synopsis found a similarity: There's an micro organism based on a crystal structure, it can use any form of energy, that's something I have in mind for RS but know I feel more and more unsure about it. | |||
:But talking about organism: the screamers are still unexplained, maybe this killed Jamie. | |||
:BTW, here is a funny piece from Hardy. http://carnage.bungie.org/oniforum/oni.forum.pl?read=17589 | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 16:03, 6 January 2008 (CET) | |||
:The "hmph" was nothing specific or "very happy", really ^_^ | |||
::I just noticed you were focusing on viruses and only on them. | |||
:::There are "toxins" mentioned in Oni in the BioCrisis context. | |||
:And that's all there was to that "hmph". Take it easy, man. Peace. | |||
::That said, I'm not sure I understand all of the pro/con talk above. | |||
:::(sometimes your grammar is ''way'' too approximate, but mostly it's OK) | |||
:Screamers are a nice guess, implying that Hasegawa lied ^_^ | |||
::However, Oni's Screamers typically don't ''infect'' the victim. | |||
:::So if it was a Screamer, it had to be a really vicious one. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:42, 6 January 2008 (CET) | |||
:Hm(ph), Hardy's take on Screamers is really interesting. | |||
:I'm not too hot for a lengthy "road warrior" plot: | |||
:*it would remind of many other postapocalyptic setups: Blame!, MadMax, etc etc | |||
:*the Daodan warlords (and supervillains more generally) would trivialize the Daodan | |||
::(pretty much like your Traton does in RS: generally speaking, supervillains suck) | |||
:But the phase veil... nice. As you know, I sorta came up with it independently | |||
::(of course in my world the Screamers would not be "evil"; just misunderstood) | |||
:I'm surprised he didn't describe the Daodan as originating from "beyond the veil". | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:52, 6 January 2008 (CET) | |||
Mission complete... | |||
Instead of a virus/toxin, I decided to use a [[Restless Souls/Technology#BioCrisis|plant/fungus symbiosis (mycorrhiza)]] as Jamie's death cause. [[User:Paradox-01|paradox-01]] ([[User talk:Paradox-01|talk]]) 20:06, 15 June 2014 (CEST) | |||
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