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Sorry, but I don't know where else to put this since you are using the talk page already for the below content. A few points:

  • Talk pages don't get categorized -- they don't even show up in the list of uncategorized pages. Therefore anything placed here will not show up in the Site Map even if a category is applied. If you're just using this as a planning page for what will eventually go at the real, non-Talk page, that's okay.
  • The category would be Oni 2 -- read the description on that cat. page for a reminder of what is supposed to go there. Oni 2 projects of course also get listed by their authors on Oni 2 to make them easier to find.
  • In any case, the title "Oni Zero" was already taken by me, albeit for an extremely perfunctory page.
  • You're also supposed to place Oni 2 projects under the Oni 2 namespace, e.g. "Oni2:Cage Birds".
  • I think you mean to say "Caged Birds". "Caged" is the verb/adjective being applied to "Birds".
  • Feel free to erase this message once you've read it, in order to get it out of your way.

--Iritscen (talk) 06:27, 4 January 2017 (CET)

General notes

A potential prequel to Oni - or just a set of many notes. We will see.

We know little about Muro's and Mai's personality and habits. What kind of "humans" are they really? How does the Daodan alter them?

Also, there is Ryu and Daya whose background story should also be developed at some point.

Cage Birds is supposed to answer open questions and provide the foundation of the actual sequel RS. If CB is going to be a full story, it is not the final name, just a working title, as the children don't remain kept but go to war.

By the way, what category should this page have? [[Category:Oni 0]]?


Discussion

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Story notes in chronologic order

Where do Jamie Kerr and Momuto Hasegawa meet? Why do they fall in love?

How is Jamie's and Hasegawa's daily life?


Jamie dies...

Her corpse is examined in CDC's biosafety level 5 lab. It's the first time the BSL-5 was used.

Jamie has demineralized bones, liquefied organs, melted skin.

When they unzipped the body bag, they stood in a moment of shock and horror.

"Guys, from now on we will triple-check our suits before we enter this room."

"When we know how to deal with it send a sample to BSL-4 in Marburg."

"We also have two dead rangers. How did the husband survive?"

"Maybe only direct contact with blood is contagious. He said he had his gloves on when he applied the hypos. After the head shot he has kept distance. - The ranger rummaged the backpack. It was stained with blood. Probably it happened when she looked for dressing material."


Griffin tells one of his black ops fellows to form a task force, Z482.

They are supposed to find and kill Muro. Griffin isn't authorized to do that which îs why the group is supported by (GATC) Blackstars resources.

Griffin and Blackstars have always made business together. In return for the support Griffin shares all TCTF techologies with Blackstars, the Daodan is no exception. He trusts them blindly because he was a member of them. In fact, Griffin and Blackstars helped the TCTF to form their black ops division. The steady flow of information allows GATC and Blackstars to keep under WCG radar.

Even if Griffin wouldn't tell GATC about the Daodan they would find it out themselves and acquire the data. Instead he coops with them from the start to foster their relationship.

Z: "What if Konoko teams up with her brother?"

Griffin pierces him with grim eyes. "Do whatever you think is necessary."

Z: "Okay."

As Muro grows the task force is also meant to kill any children of Muro. He did already so much damage and was only one super soldier.

The team gets eradicated by Muro when they thought they had a good chance to engage. That's why Griffin has to fly to the mountain complex himself

On the hand you could construct a connection to the different game scenarios.
If Mai kills Griffin, another (weaker) blackstars teams might be compelled to attack Muro (because they are still in range) which drives him once more into Imago mode.
If Mai doesn't kill Griffin, the Commander is forced to use his own black ops at TCTF.


Konoko is supposed to be a weapon.

After the official TCTF training Konoko is send to a GATC location where she receives further training.

Griffin: "I want her to function in every situation. The hunt for Muro isn't a job for a rookie. He has killed hundred of men by now. Teach her to kill. Let her kill. Then she is ready. The test is December in just for the WCG fools." After that she is sent to investigate the Syndicate warehouse. Her additional training is the reason why she reacts so calm when she finds dead agent Chung.

Also, in the nightmare she calls herself a murderer because obviously she is one.

Beside that Konoko appears relative normal. She would have to deal with the real world one day so she must had have some regular education too. The sci staff around Kerr was possibly extended with an child psychologist, Maria. That woman and Kerr tried their best to protect Mai from Griffin.


The first real problem was to convince Griffin that the Daodan was not contagious.

Griffin: "You told me that this thing can withstand all biological and chemical threats."

Kerr: "Yes, that's the purpose."

Griffin: And for that it needs to grow. That makes it no different from the green goo out there. - Those whitecoats thought it would remain in their defined area. But it didn't. Hundreds of them were wrong. How can you tell you know it better?"

Kerr: "Just let me make the test and I will show-"

Griffin: "They too made tests, doctor! And it was for nothing. - How did they call it? - An unplanned occurrence of horizontal gene transfer. What the hell."

Kerr: "I promise you. I will show you that the Daodan does not take over cells of other people."

Griffin: "Well, doctor, try it..."

Maria: "If she is so dangerous to the general public how do plan to make use of her abilities?"

Griffin: "We lock her up. Train her in VR and android interaction. The tech says they are already working on something. - As far as the interaction with the Syndicate goes, we only plan her to fight Muro. We will provide a special suit to minimize decontamination."

Maria: "Who's is Muro."

Kerr: "Her brother."

Maria: "Oh dear god! Tell me this is not true."

Griffin: "He has the other Daodan."

Kerr: "You will probably see Muro in action here and there. - I can't possibly convince you with my own tests. But when you screen the people and places where Muro was, you won't see contagious cell remnants."

Griffin: "That's just one more theory."

Kerr: "Why don't you linten-"

Griffin: "Doctor! I will consider it."


Griffin doesn't really trust Maria methods to keep Mai doing the sci tests.

In springtime Maria and the tech team found a solution that seems to be compromise to everyone.

Shinatama is introduced to Mai.


Mai is only allowed to have minimal social interaction.

However, for a healthy developments Maria proposes that Mai makes more friends. A "machine" doesn't really count for her.

Maria: "What if she rebels against you, and rejects order in a critical moment because she never learned how to properly interact with others."

Griffin: "I know you use this as an excuse. -- But you are right."

Maria: "Why did you changed your mind?

Griffin: "I heard Jack and Konoko already met each other ... somehow. So. It wasn't a catastrophe? Fine. I will call it an followup experiment of yours."

Maria: "You would allow it if it isn't for greater use ... to you."

Griffin: "We will emotionally bind her to him. - Should she elope one day we have the means to get her back."

Maria: "..."

Griffin: "That or a bullet."


Muro fought his way up.