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- I'd clearly separate focused adaptations (relatively close to the original)
- from radically "alternative" brainstorming ("what if?"s and "how to?"s).
- On one hand, there can be an intense collaboration on consensual episodes.
- On the other, there can be a long-term relexion on parts with more "friction".
- (possible friction between creators, I mean)
- Definitely, I'd not rush head first past consensus and into friction ^^
- (I've been there before)
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
English adaptation
Random thoughts
Not clearly impressions or "improvement" tips. Sometimes just loose associations.
Carmen
Cortana VS Gunman Chronicles
- Obviously reminiscent of Cortana at the start of the story: however, she's no one's guardian angel.
- There was a Carmen-like female AI in Gunman Chronicles.
- Likewise "in charge" of a huge base. Likewise more than a bit confused when things go wrong, and people start to die (by her hand).
- She is your enemy at first, and then becomes your ally when you defeat her: you force her to abandon her collapsing infrastructure.
- From then on, you carry her around as a small module: she's a personal hacker/advisor then, very much like Cortana.
- Towards the end of the game, she gets herself a physical body (first a "female robot", then a huge battle mecha).
- (Disclaimer: I never played Halo, but I played and enjoyed Gunman Chronicles: varied, challenging, fun)
- (there are raptors there, BTW) (raptors on one planet, mechas on another, cyborgs on both) (hehe)
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
Zoo
- Reminder: the original Zoo is populated by:
- Lazarus the "wolfman" and his pack of wolves
- A multitude of identical cannibal gnomes
- Vampire bats
- Piranhas
- Raptors
- That's a rather limited bestiary/ecosystem...
- E.g., it is not clear what everyday life in the Zoo would be like, if it wasn't for intruders (Eve & Emily, Jackson's team).
- I.e., does Anderson feed them all separately, and if not, what do they all eat? Surely they're not all cannibals?
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
- Idea: the Zoo becoming Eve's Dream (mirroring her concealed fears)
- Or the real zoo is a horrid place where experiments gone wrong are stored:
- deform things, brainless masses of muscles and living tumors, maybe some
- more sentient forms of life...
- Guido
- I second the first idea, but only in part. It's a bit too radical to completely virtualize "Part 3", IMO...
- On the other hand, the Zoo can give Eve vivid nightmares a posteriori. A "Return to the Zoo" of sorts.
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
- I "second the second idea", too. The Zoo concept gave me the same a priori impression.
- Clones/mutants/chimeras don't have to be as perfectly "sensible" as Cora and Lazarus (catwoman, wolfman).
- Cross-breeding animals (or plants) is almost guaranteed to give you a lot of true monsters. Real ugly ones.
- Heck, you don't even need fiction... Ever heard of teratology? Talk about creepy...
- "Deform things, brainless masses of muscles and living tumors"... exactly. Raptor food galore ^^
- So yes, "experiments gone wrong". And even sentient forms can be very unfamiliar and/or awkward.
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
Examples of creepy mutants and such
Disclaimer: haven't played either game yet. May buy SE:E soon (for several reasons).
SiN Episodes: Emergence
- NPC Mutant Heads
- now that is what I call ugly...
- Vaguely Humanoid Mutant
- in group
- on its own
- Big Bad Boss
- far away
- up close
Hellgate:London
- Stalkers (raptor revisited)
- (czech site)
- Grotesque (that one really has gone wrong...)
- (czech site too)
- Etc...
Cora
- Catwoman is an obvious reference (Michelle Pfeiffer rather than Halle Berry for me)
- Also (maybe not too relevant) here are pics of the Cabalist from Hellgate:London :
- (she's supposed to be "good" but she's playing with fire and can thus join the "dark side" (2nd pic))
- (note the padded garnments (reminiscent of Barabas's) and the different aspect of the skin in the 2 pics)
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
- The 2nd pic (WITH FRIENDS) could be part of a nightmare ("Return to the Zoo").
- Can Cora and Carmen merge? In Eve's nightmares, they certainly can.
- geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
Eve
- Actually, I thought Eve/Cora resembled Jessica Cannon (SiN Episodes) a little bit.
- Maybe Cannon is a bit "too hot": there's not much of a plotwise analogy, anyway.
- Then again, I've been drawing a huge parallel between SiN Episodes and Oni.
- (so you might hear more about this...) (but not here, of course...) ^^
- geyser 02:16, 16 February 2007 (CET)
- Jessica Cannon
- apprehension
- aftertaste
- Cindy Synnett
- in parallel
- trigger happy
- Early artwork
- calm
- angry
- innocent
