User talk:Loser

CMBT "sorta improvement" project - discussion

First of all, I plan to release whole CJBOcombat (object), not just parts. That way, it would be piece of cake for end user to import it via OUP. Original combat profiles are:

Name	ID	Behavior part					Combat part					Non-combatant part				Alarm behavior
		long range	medium range	short range	medium retreat	long retreat	long/medium range	medium/short range	pursuit range	melee override	if no gun	panic hurt	panic gunfire	panic melee	panic sight	search distance	enemy ignore distance	enemy attack distance	damage treshold	fight timer
Stand_and_Fire	0	hold and fire					120	40	200	if punched	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Sniper	0xCF=207	hold and fire					200	20	10	no	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Take_my_Big_Black_Stuff	3	stare					200	40	200	no	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Assault	4	firing charge		hold and fire	firing charge	hold and fire	200	40	200	no	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Shoot_And_Fight	2	firing charge	hold and fire			firing charge	200	40	400	if punched	melee	600	900	600	1200	1000	80	0	30	300
Murder	1	hold and fire					50	20	20	if punched	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Civilian	5	stare					200	100	200	no	retreat	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300
Pursuit	6	firing charge		hold and fire	firing charge		200	40	0	if punched	melee	600	900	600	1200	300	80	0	30	300

Name Stand_and_Fire profile ID 0 ( 00 ) behavior part   long range hold and fire medium range hold and fire short range hold and fire medium retreat hold and fire long retreat hold and fire combat part   long/medium range 120 medium/short range 40 pursuit range 200 melee override if punched if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Sniper profile ID 207 ( cf ) behavior part   long range hold and fire medium range hold and fire short range hold and fire medium retreat hold and fire long retreat hold and fire combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 20 pursuit range 10 melee override no if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Take_my_Big_Black_Stuff profile ID 3 ( 03 ) behavior part   long range stare medium range stare short range stare medium retreat stare long retreat stare combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 40 pursuit range 200 melee override no if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Assault profile ID 4 ( 04 ) behavior part   long range firing charge medium range firing charge short range hold and fire medium retreat firing charge long retreat hold and fire combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 40 pursuit range 200 melee override no if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Shoot_and_Fight profile ID 2 ( 02 ) behavior part   long range firing charge medium range hold and fire short range hold and fire medium retreat hold and fire long retreat firing charge combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 40 pursuit range 400 melee override if punched if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 1000 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Murder profile ID 1 ( 01 ) behavior part   long range hold and fire medium range hold and fire short range hold and fire medium retreat hold and fire long retreat hold and fire combat part   long/medium range 50 medium/short range 20 pursuit range 20 melee override if punched if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Civilian profile ID 5 ( 05 ) behavior part   long range stare medium range stare short range stare medium retreat stare long retreat stare combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 100 pursuit range 200 melee override no if no gun retreat non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

Name Pursuit profile ID 6 ( 06 ) behavior part   long range firing charge medium range firing charge short range hold and fire medium retreat firing charge long retreat firing charge combat part   long/medium range 200 medium/short range 40 pursuit range 0 melee override if punched if no gun melee non-combatant part   panic hurt 600 panic gunfire 900 panic melee 600 panic sight 1200 alarm behavior   search distance 300 enemy ignore distance 80 enemy attack distance 0 damage treshold 30 fight timer 300

I have to go now. This is NOT completed.

CMBT has 19 combat profiles altogether, these are just first eight.

But feel free to suggest some changes if you think it will be better then.

Loser 13:42, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

Looking at your latest edits, you really did a great job, man...

I wouldn't discuss the possibilities or plan the modding here.

For that I recommend the Talk pages of the respective resources.

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

About CMBT and MELE - public releases would of course be single OBJC.

But for "experts" you could release single chunks: easier to work with.

Or you can put such wiki-tables on display: maybe it's even better...

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

As for weapons: feel free to release ONWC with firing-spreads ASAP.

Whatever tweaking is needed in the ONCC, it can be added later.

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

As for Rugby and CTF: the parameters are "still very promising".

Maybe there's enough for me to get started, but I'm not sure yet.

Tackling is good, but for Rugby there'll have to be sliding, too.

Note that sliding is not the only option: running kicks work too.

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

Generally, I would recommend to add new CMBT/MELE/etc to the OBJC.

It's better to test and to compare: just change an ID in the CHAR.

Then, when you're done, you can keep the many profiles in the OBJC

(just flip the IDs between the old MELEE/CMBT and the improved one)

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

As for the unknown parts of the TRAM, they're almost known now.

The "danger zone" is a rough test for incoming melee attacks.

The "extent" part is an additional, much finer collision test.

It's not actually a real-time collision - more like prediction.

The AI know where the damage-dealing volume will be.

Depending on how close it "would come", they dodge/block/etc.

There's not much room for improvement there, but it's OK.

geyser 18:59, 25 July 2007 (CEST)