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| "Do we look like Bungie?" Critiques re-drawn art of Mr. Big (he's still not big enough). Making clones of Mukade is way too similar a concept to Jango Fett in Star Wars prequels. Plus, Daodan-powered clones would be too unpredictable; Mukade needs to maintain control. Does like the idea of doubles for Mukade, however; soldiers who appear to be him, but lacking the mental connection that Mai sensed in the original. Agrees that the line between rebels/guerilla fighters and terrorists can become hazy; perhaps something to explore in Oni 2. Phoenix may have to kill people to keep them quiet when they operate clandestinely; this may lead to a crisis of conscience for Mai where she has to disobey orders. Wants to introduce Hikari in a chase sequence like Rooftops, but faster, where Mai pursues her while dodging Meta patrols. Advantage of his plans for Meta/Syndicate is that it's a simple picture of the world which we can present to the player at the start of the game; later we can reveal that not all is as it seems, or introduce new factions, but the initial setting will be easy to understand. | | "Do we look like Bungie?" Critiques re-drawn art of Mr. Big (he's still not big enough). Making clones of Mukade is way too similar a concept to Jango Fett in Star Wars prequels. Plus, Daodan-powered clones would be too unpredictable; Mukade needs to maintain control. Does like the idea of doubles for Mukade, however; soldiers who appear to be him, but lacking the mental connection that Mai sensed in the original. Agrees that the line between rebels/guerilla fighters and terrorists can become hazy; perhaps something to explore in Oni 2. Phoenix may have to kill people to keep them quiet when they operate clandestinely; this may lead to a crisis of conscience for Mai where she has to disobey orders. Wants to introduce Hikari in a chase sequence like Rooftops, but faster, where Mai pursues her while dodging Meta patrols. Advantage of his plans for Meta/Syndicate is that it's a simple picture of the world which we can present to the player at the start of the game; later we can reveal that not all is as it seems, or introduce new factions, but the initial setting will be easy to understand. | ||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3909 here] | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3917 here] | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3920 here] | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3941 here] | |||
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| Clarifies that he was suggesting on-the-spot clones, "for distractions, extra hands", etc. The Hikari chase scene could have checkpoints with individual time limits, or else you need to stay within a certain distance of her or the mission ends. Is geyser saying there will be vehicles in use on the roofs? Maybe the chase leads into the SLD factory and the next level. Shouldn't Mr. Big in Guido's art be throwing his assailants around easily? | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3946 here] | |||
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| Making a complete clone out of thin air would require a *lot* of air (and ad hoc nuclear fusion!). Air-based clones wouldn't be solid enough for combat, but perhaps useful for distraction. And if Mukade can use telekinesis to form clones, then he doesn't need extra hands. There also may be a Meta machine that produces more solid clones of Mukade. [Spontaneous review of Björk's musical career omitted, sorry geyser.] As for the Hikari chase leading into the SLD factory, we shouldn't mash all our ideas into such a small portion of gameplay. The SLD factory would make more sense as a separate mission for Mai given by Phoenix. The chase scene won't just be on rooftops, it can be on the street, too, hence the vehicles. Agrees that normally Mr. Big would be throwing those guys around. Perhaps he's sedated. His normal fighting style is a mix of whatever works -- karate, boxing, etc., using his weight to his advantage. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3949 here] | |||
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| Acknowledges difficulties in solid-air clones, but then how does Mukade teleport? Maybe he can have both kinds of clones, illusion clones and (fragile) solid clones. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3956 here] | |||
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| Both types might be feasible, yes. Teleporting is less far-fetched than making clones. The player would see the world in a sort of shadow form, and could take their time in traveling elsewhere, at least until a gauge runs out. This might be disorienting since no-clip mode would be on, and you might kill yourself by ending up inside a wall; perhaps ending up inside a person could tele-frag them. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3958 here] | |||
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| Where did Mr. Big come from? | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3959 here] | |||
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| Idea behind drawing of Mai walking away from Big in a fight is that she might betray him at some point. | |||
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| [http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9&page=23#post_3964 here] | |||
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| Mr. Big was his idea, "as an archetype of brute force combined with a mix of cunning situation assessment and (possibly faked) good-heartedness". He's a rogue element in the plot, not tied to one faction. Initially he brings Mai into Phoenix and supports her on her first missions while the player is learning the ropes. Big also owns a warehouse-turned-night club. It would be hard to have Mai betray Big in a game where you play as Mai; you'd have to take away control from the player, possibly disillusioning them. Perhaps some TCTF gear remains from the old days; it may even serve as a trigger for Mai's memory; perhaps Hikari even wears it for that purpose. "Does Big take Mai as a rival, a friend, a sister... or a collector's item?" | |||
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