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::That's two plus Mukade in the TNZ perspective (and any resources/knowledge he might have), but I get your point. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 19:46, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | ::That's two plus Mukade in the TNZ perspective (and any resources/knowledge he might have), but I get your point. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 19:46, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | ||
:Iritscen has basically split the amount of work by saying the Daodan was invented and the Chrysalis was discovered (originating from behind the Phase Veil, IIRC). --''''Dox''' | :Iritscen has basically split the amount of work by saying the Daodan was invented and the Chrysalis was discovered (originating from behind the Phase Veil, IIRC). --''''Dox''' | ||
::For me, the Daodan (aura) not only comes from the Phase but is also sentient. This adds a "new dimension" to the term 'symbiosis', besides the mere coexistence inside one body with one's own "tumor clone". However, the Daodan does not speak English, and its "sentience" can only be judged by the "optimal/optimizing" behavior of Chrysalis cells under its influence. Kerr's poetic tirade - "whatever your final form, it is an expression of your true nature" - is of course totally unscientific <strike>bullshit</strike> wishful thinking, and | ::For me, the Daodan (aura) not only comes from the Phase but is also sentient. This adds a "new dimension" to the term 'symbiosis', besides the mere coexistence inside one body with one's own "tumor clone". However, the Daodan does not speak English, and its "sentience" can only be judged by the "optimal/optimizing" behavior of Chrysalis cells under its influence. Kerr's poetic tirade - "whatever your final form, it is an expression of your true nature" - is of course totally unscientific <strike>bullshit</strike> wishful thinking, and he mainly says it to reassure Mai and himself - but it ''does'' tell us that, somehow, the Chrysalis is really good at preserving its host's life and integrity. | ||
::I don't have a "full picture" to show you right now, but imagine, if you can, that both the Daodan and Screamers (and Phase entities in general), are ''transdimensional'', i.e., they are either 100% "latent" (fully residing in their home dimension), 100% "present" (pulled entirely into our world), or something in between. In some conditions the entities can flow freely back-and-forth between the two worlds. In other cases there will be little bits - "tips of the iceberg" - sticking into our dimension while the bulk of the entity remains "home". Force fields, for example, can be seen as "slices" of the other dimension temporarily inserted into ours - light can travel through such a slice, but for matter it will behave like a solid barrier. As another example, phase cloak wearers are still mostly in "our" dimension, but the agitation slightly "displaces" them in the direction of the Phase (a dangerous process that can lead to cellular damage or disintegration). Teleportation is similar to cloaking, but it's an even deeper (and more dangerous) excursion towards the Phase - my view is that only fully integrated Daodan symbiotes can survive a teleport. | ::I don't have a "full picture" to show you right now, but imagine, if you can, that both the Daodan and Screamers (and Phase entities in general), are ''transdimensional'', i.e., they are either 100% "latent" (fully residing in their home dimension), 100% "present" (pulled entirely into our world), or something in between. In some conditions the entities can flow freely back-and-forth between the two worlds. In other cases there will be little bits - "tips of the iceberg" - sticking into our dimension while the bulk of the entity remains "home". Force fields, for example, can be seen as "slices" of the other dimension temporarily inserted into ours - light can travel through such a slice, but for matter it will behave like a solid barrier. As another example, phase cloak wearers are still mostly in "our" dimension, but the agitation slightly "displaces" them in the direction of the Phase (a dangerous process that can lead to cellular damage or disintegration). Teleportation is similar to cloaking, but it's an even deeper (and more dangerous) excursion towards the Phase - my view is that only fully integrated Daodan symbiotes can survive a teleport. | ||
::Screaming Cells are an example of entities that normally live "elsewhere" (out of Earth phase, as Oni puts it), but can "peek" into our dimension - the higher or lower "presence" of a Screamer can be seen as a larger or smaller projection of its transdimensional/multi-dimensional form onto our familiar 3D space (see [https://gifer.com/en/Rpck HERE] for a typical illustration of how a "hypersphere" is perceived in lower dimensions as a sphere of variable size). A Screaming Cannon's projectiles are material pieces of Phase tech that "hook" the Cell in our world and make sure it sticks around for long enough to do some damage (without the hook, the Cell could probably disappear into the Phase right away, and wouldn't need to fly around looking for food). | ::Screaming Cells are an example of entities that normally live "elsewhere" (out of Earth phase, as Oni puts it), but can "peek" into our dimension - the higher or lower "presence" of a Screamer can be seen as a larger or smaller projection of its transdimensional/multi-dimensional form onto our familiar 3D space (see [https://gifer.com/en/Rpck HERE] for a typical illustration of how a "hypersphere" is perceived in lower dimensions as a sphere of variable size). A Screaming Cannon's projectiles are material pieces of Phase tech that "hook" the Cell in our world and make sure it sticks around for long enough to do some damage (without the hook, the Cell could probably disappear into the Phase right away, and wouldn't need to fly around looking for food). | ||