Oni2 talk:Truth Number Zero/Digest: Difference between revisions

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::To me, Daodan symbiosis works as a "leap of faith" (both for an unwitting subject such as Mai and for the "designers" of the project, like Hasegawa - Kerr's "true nature" tirades are a good example). It is much less convincing as "controlled technology" or "calculated risk" - Griffin's failure is a testament to that. The only guarantees about the Daodan is that it will deceive ''any'' expectations - other than expressing the "true nature" of its host (whatever that means) - and elude ''any'' form of control. It can be "invented"/"discovered", but not "mastered" or "harnessed" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 20:47, 21 May 2020 (CEST)
::To me, Daodan symbiosis works as a "leap of faith" (both for an unwitting subject such as Mai and for the "designers" of the project, like Hasegawa - Kerr's "true nature" tirades are a good example). It is much less convincing as "controlled technology" or "calculated risk" - Griffin's failure is a testament to that. The only guarantees about the Daodan is that it will deceive ''any'' expectations - other than expressing the "true nature" of its host (whatever that means) - and elude ''any'' form of control. It can be "invented"/"discovered", but not "mastered" or "harnessed" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 20:47, 21 May 2020 (CEST)
:::Are you crushing Mai's hope of a better humanity? Monsters everywhere. ^_^ --[[User:Paradox-01|paradox-01]] ([[User talk:Paradox-01|talk]]) 09:10, 22 May 2020 (CEST)
:::Are you crushing Mai's hope of a better humanity? Monsters everywhere. ^_^ --[[User:Paradox-01|paradox-01]] ([[User talk:Paradox-01|talk]]) 09:10, 22 May 2020 (CEST)
 
::::Monsters!?? Where!?? No, seriously, which part are you reacting to? If the Daodan isn't 100% man-made, that makes it "more monstrous" somehow? Or it the unpredictable/uncontrollable aspect?
::::Either way, if there's just Mai and Muro (and Mukade; and Barabas), that's hardly "everywhere". Or is it the Screamers and Daodans that you're objecting to? Too many sentient "creatures"?
::::Mai's "hope of a better humanity" would be the part where she says "Mankind as we knew it is doomed. The Chrysalis will change us all."? And then she breaks a mirror, just to make sure.
::::Note, though, that despite her "anti-hero" antics, Mai turns out great (so far) as a symbiote - we don't see her "giving in" to Imago as Muro does, or going schizo like Mukade, etc.
::::Somehow she manages to "stay human" (c.f. "saboi astatsa dolshe" from Origa's "Inner Universe" - to stay oneself longer) while accepting the Daodan's upgrades. Arguably this is just another gameplay necessity, because she needs to remain relatable as a character. But the in-universe explanation is that Mai is a relatively "good" example of symbiosis, and so she might be holding the answer of "better humanity" as you say - she is balancing on the razor's edge, undergoing radical transformation without losing her identity. So, monsters or not, this is still about Hope, Faith and Love. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 11:36, 22 May 2020 (CEST)


==Speeding up unification==
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