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 :I'd clearly separate focused adaptations (relatively close to the original)
 ::from radically "alternative" brainstorming ("what if?"s and "how to?"s).
-:A summary of the "brilliant ideas" so far is outlined below. "WIP forever".
+:On one hand, there can be an intense collaboration on consensual episodes.
+:On the other, there can be a long-term relexion on parts with more "friction".
+:(possible friction between creators, I mean)
+:Definitely, I'd not rush head first past consensus and into friction ^^
+:(I've been there before)
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
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 ==English adaptation==
 *[[User talk:Tracker/Projekt 257/Kapitel 1|Chapter 1]]
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 ==Random thoughts==
+Not clearly impressions or "improvement" tips. Sometimes just loose associations.
 ===Carmen===
 ====Cortana VS Gunman Chronicles====
 :Obviously reminiscent of Cortana at the start of the story: however, she's no one's guardian angel.
 :There was a Carmen-like female AI in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunman_Chronicles Gunman Chronicles].
-::Likewise "in charge" of a huge base. Likewise more than a bit confused when things go wrong, and people start to die.
+::Likewise "in charge" of a huge base. Likewise more than a bit confused when things go wrong, and people start to die (by her hand).
-::She is your enemy at first, and then becomes your ally when you defeat her: she then abandons her collapsing infrastructure.
+::She is your enemy at first, and then becomes your ally when you defeat her: you force her to abandon her collapsing infrastructure.
-::From then on, you carry "her" around as a small module: she's a personal hacker/advisor then, very much like Cortana.
+::From then on, you carry her around as a small module: she's a personal hacker/advisor then, very much like Cortana.
-::Towards the end of the game, she gets a physical body (first a "female robot", then a huge battle mecha).
+::Towards the end of the game, she gets herself a physical body (first a "female robot", then a huge battle mecha).
-:(Disclaimer: I never played Halo, but I played and enjoyed Gunman Chronicles: varied, challenging)
+:(Disclaimer: I never played Halo, but I played and enjoyed Gunman Chronicles: varied, challenging, fun)
 :(there are raptors there, BTW) (raptors on one planet, mechas on another, cyborgs on both) (hehe)
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
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 :*Piranhas
 :*Raptors
-:That's a rather limited bestiary/ecosystem.
+:That's a rather limited bestiary/ecosystem...
 :E.g., it is not clear what everyday life in the Zoo would be like, if it wasn't for intruders (Eve & Emily, Jackson's team).
-:I.e., does Anderson feed them all separately, and if not, what do they all eat? Surely not each other?
+:I.e., does Anderson feed them all separately, and if not, what do they all eat? Surely they're not ''all'' cannibals?
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
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 :On the other hand, the Zoo can give Eve vivid nightmares ''a posteriori''. A "Return to the Zoo" of sorts.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
-:I second the first idea. The Zoo concept gave me the same ''a priori'' impression.
+:I "second the second idea", too. The Zoo concept gave me the same ''a priori'' impression.
-:Chimeras don't have to as perfectly "sensible" as Cora and Lazarus (catwoman, wolfman).
+:Clones/mutants/chimeras don't have to be as perfectly "sensible" as Cora and Lazarus (catwoman, wolfman).
-:Cross-breeding animals (or plants) gives you its share of ''true'' monsters. ''Real'' ugly ones.
+:Cross-breeding animals (or plants) is almost guaranteed to give you a lot of ''true'' monsters. ''Real'' ugly ones.
 :Heck, you don't even need ''fiction''... Ever heard of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teratology teratology]? Talk about creepy...
 :"Deform things, brainless masses of muscles and living tumors"... exactly. Raptor food galore ^^
-:And even sentient forms can be very unfamiliar and/or awkward.
+:So yes, "experiments gone wrong". And even sentient forms can be very unfamiliar and/or awkward.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
-====Examples of creepy mutants====
+====Examples of creepy mutants and such====
 Disclaimer: haven't played either game yet. May buy SE:E soon (for several reasons).
 =====SiN Episodes: Emergence=====
-;Mutants
+;NPC Mutant Heads
-:image URL coming soon
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/SiN+Episodes+Concept+Art/1/concepts/concept_050827_05.jpg now ''that'' is what I call ugly...]
-;Boss
+;Vaguely Humanoid Mutant
-:image URL coming soon
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/Sin+Episodes+Screenshots/7/thumbs/050711_08.jpg in group]
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/Sin+Episodes+Screenshots/7/thumbs/050711_07.jpg on its own]
+;Big Bad Boss
+:[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/1/thumbs/060510_02.jpg far away]
+:[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/5/thumbs/060425_02.jpg up close]
 =====Hellgate:London=====
-;Stalkers (raptor substitutes)
+;Stalkers (raptor revisited)
-:image URL coming soon
+:[http://hellgate.suewebik.net/pages/demoni/stalker.php (czech site)]
-;Grotesque (err...)
+;Grotesque (that one ''really'' has gone wrong...)
-:image URL coming soon
+:[http://hellgate.suewebik.net/pages/demoni/grotesque--skupina.php (czech site too)]
-;Etc
+;Etc...
 ===Cora===
 :Catwoman is an obvious reference (Michelle Pfeiffer rather than Halle Berry for me)
 :Also (maybe not ''too'' relevant) here are pics of the Cabalist from Hellgate:London :
-:*[http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/753/753610/hellgate-london-20070108011815441.jpg ON HER OWN]
+:*[http://media.pc.ign.com/media/737/737992/img_4153656.html ON HER OWN]
-:*[http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/753/753610/hellgate-london-20070108011812441.jpg WITH FRIENDS]
+:*[http://media.pc.ign.com/media/737/737992/img_4153654.html WITH FRIENDS]
 :(she's supposed to be "good" but she's playing with fire and can thus join the "dark side" (2nd pic))
 :(note the padded garnments (reminiscent of Barabas's) and the different aspect of the skin in the 2 pics)
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 :Can Cora and Carmen merge? In Eve's nightmares, they certainly can.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)
+===Eve===
+:Actually, I thought Eve/Cora resembled Jessica Cannon (SiN Episodes) a little bit.
+:Maybe Cannon is a bit "too hot": there's not much of a plotwise analogy, anyway.
+:Then again, I've been drawing a ''huge'' parallel between SiN Episodes and ''Oni''.
+:(so you might hear more about this...) (but not ''here'', of course...) ^^
+::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:16, 16 February 2007 (CET)
+;Jessica Cannon
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/Sin+Episodes+Screenshots/1/thumbs/060511_05.jpg apprehension]
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/Sin+Episodes+Screenshots/6/thumbs/051115_04.jpg aftertaste]
+;Cindy Synnett
+:[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/2/thumbs/060505_02.jpg in parallel]
+:[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/3/thumbs/060504_01.jpg trigger happy]
+;Early artwork
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens/sineps/wallpapers/051130_01_1600.jpg calm]
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens/sineps/wallpapers/050921_01_1600.jpg angry]
+:[http://www.ritualistic.com/screens.php/sineps/SiN+Episodes+Concept+Art/2/concepts/concept_050827_01.jpg innocent]