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==talk== | |||
===speeded up mutation?=== | |||
... incoming from GATC idea | |||
:: GATC (renewed) | |||
::* '''DevNotes''' | |||
:::The renewed GATC is a wordplay on '''G'''uanine, '''A'''denine, '''T'''hymine and '''C'''ytosine; it refers to the genetic code. | |||
:::A GATC-'''U'''nit would be '''U'''racil. Mutated versions are Xanthine and Hypoxanthine. | |||
:::(In fact: G, A, T, C belongs to the DNA - G, A, C, U is RNA.) | |||
:::(<u>At this time I don't know how much this will be used in RS.</u>) | |||
my newest hyper-evolution ideas (27.08.2007)(''inspirited'' by [[wikipedia:Nucleobase|Wikipedia's Nucleobase Article]])<br> | |||
<u>[ ideas how the DC could work ]</u><br> | |||
(A, G, C can transform by mutagens) | |||
Adenine becomes Hypoxanthin <font color="#777">(Hypoxanthine is used in the [[wikipedia:Wobble_base_pair|Wobble base pair]] by [[wikipedia:Inosine|Inosine]].</font> | |||
Guanine becomes Xanthin | |||
Cytosine becomes Uracile<br> | |||
So, maybe this is what [[Daodan]]'s regeneration and mutation skill speeds up.<br> | |||
On the other hand the two types (DNA and RNA) still exist - there is <u>not</u> the one ultimate <u>remaining</u>. | |||
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<strike>ACGT gives 4<sup>3</sup> (= 64) combinations, but 20 of them are used only. Would it makes sense that the Daodan use more? | |||
[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:NichtGenMenge.png DNA amount, that doesn't encode proteins (picture).] [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genom#Bemerkungen Genome Article)] | |||
They are supposed of having a control function of [[wikipedia:Gene_expression|gene expression]]. | |||
The DC might gives new functions by use the other 44 combination in non-protein code.</strike><br><br> | |||
<u>[ ideas what the DC could be ]</u><br> | |||
My first thought was that the DC is just an upgrade construction and cannot exist without a host construction, the DNA. | |||
Or is it possible that the Daodan-Chrysalis is more like an [[wikipedia:Endosymbiotic_theory|organelle]]? | |||
;"ACGT gives 4<sup>3</sup> (= 64) combinations, but 20 of them are used only." | |||
:That's not correct: '''[[wikipedia:Codon#RNA_codon_table|all 64 codons have a meaning]]''', they're just redundant. | |||
:As for the non-protein code, it has nothing to do with the 44 "missing" AA. | |||
:It's about the ''sequences of amino acids'', not about a ''single'' translation. | |||
:So the combinatorics/diversity is not about 4<sup>anything</sup>, but 20<sup>a few thousands</sup>. | |||
:It's totally possible that the [[Daodan]] generates completely new proteins. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:26, 1 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:Yes, my mistake, and thank you for correction. | |||
:Despite this [[wikipedia:Codon#Degeneracy_of_the_genetic_code|degeneracy of the genetic code]], codons standing for the same AA are not completely equivalent. | |||
:[[wikipedia:Silent_mutation|Recent results suggest that silent mutations can have an effect on subsequent protein structure and activity.]] | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 13:20, 3 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
;"So, maybe this is what Daodan's regeneration and mutation skill speeds up." | |||
:The [[Daodan]] is very much like [[wikipedia:Cancer|cancer]]: aggression, invasion, metastasis... | |||
:You don't have to invent anything radically different, just "improve cancer". | |||
:Also have a look at what happens to cells when they're infected by a [[wikipedia:Virus|virus]]. | |||
:In either case, the original cell is affected by very little DNA/RNA changes. | |||
:But the appearance and function of the cell are ''dramatically'' repurposed. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:26, 1 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:Yea, daodan-material enclosed by a virus hull is not bad for the first host-wide infection and (thus developed) "smart cancers" have a great regeneration potential. | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 13:20, 3 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
;"Or is it possible that the Daodan-Chrysalis is more like a organelle?" | |||
:Have a look [http://qntm.org/questions HERE], more specifically at point 3. And then relax. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 00:12, 2 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:IMO, on one point, science fiction creates big interest when it looks very possible for the future. | |||
:But I agree with you again. The story comes first. <u>So, ignore the grey box here as something of my personal interest.</u> =) | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 13:20, 3 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:Maybe I'd ignore it if it was in your User namespace. | |||
:Then again, I guess I'd still point out mistakes etc... | |||
:For all I care, the Daodan is anything and everything. | |||
:Pretty similar to [[wikipedia:Midi-chlorians|midi-chlorians]], when you think of it. | |||
:Human-engineered, host-based midi-chlorians ^_^ | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:52, 4 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:Maybe the purpose of these posts is to make you organize your stuff a bit. | |||
:Really, why not move this "personal interest" of yours to [[Talk:Daodan]]? | |||
:Etc. Anything that is not "private" to your story should be modular ^_^ | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:52, 4 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
==Space for out rated or untranslated stuff== | ==Space for out rated or untranslated stuff== | ||
===Daodan-Chrysalis=== | ===Daodan-Chrysalis=== | ||