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Pensatore: "Isn't your Daodan project unethical?"
Pensatore: "Isn't your Daodan project unethical?"


:Hasegawa threw a punishing look to Pensatore: "Ethic is without meaning to the dead. -- This stupid [majority of] socienty tolerated the acts of its government therefore its own suffering. Social intelligence failed. WCG is to blame as well the people. They are reckless about their and other lifes. Jamie paid the ultimate price. (It's enough! I can't take this shit anymore.) I can't accept this destructive idle anylonger. Wouldn't it be more unethical if I don't work towards a change?"
:Hasegawa threw a punishing look to Pensatore: "Ethic is without meaning to the dead. -- This stupid [majority of] society tolerated the acts of its government therefore its own suffering. Social intelligence failed. WCG is to blame as well the people. They are reckless about their and other lifes. Jamie paid the ultimate price. I can't accept this destructive idle any longer. Wouldn't it be more unethical if I don't work towards a change?"


Pensatore: "But the means. The means!"
Pensatore: "But the means. The means!"
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Pensatore: "I will say it again: this is unethical. Think about the consequences. Chaos and fear will lead us into an unseen catastrophe."
Pensatore: "I will say it again: this is unethical. Think about the consequences. Chaos and fear will lead us into an unseen catastrophe."


:Hasegawa: "Here's the point you are equal to them. Faced by allegedly unknown you start to panic! - We live within evolution and this brings up always unknown things. All I do is speeding things up. To protect our bodies against wrong decidions of our minds!"
:Hasegawa: "Here's the point you are equal to them. Faced by allegedly unknown you start to panic! - We live within evolution and this brings up always unknown things. All I do is speeding things up. To protect our bodies against wrong decisions of our minds!"


Pensatore: "That is irresponsible..."
Pensatore: "That is irresponsible..."
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:Hasegawa: "And doing nothing about it is not irresponsible? -- We are living in a permanent ''situation normal, all fucked up''."
:Hasegawa: "And doing nothing about it is not irresponsible? -- We are living in a permanent ''situation normal, all fucked up''."


: "Ethic is flexible. Look at our history! -- Hungry men at death's door [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#Cannibalism ate other men]<!--also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#World_War_II--> to survive. -- Religios peolpe rethink their commandments and approve murder if the person is a megalomaniac dictator (Hitler). [...]"
: "Ethic is flexible. Look at our history! -- Hungry men at death's door [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#Cannibalism ate other men]<!--also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#World_War_II--> to survive. -- Religious people rethink their commandments and approve murder if the person is a megalomaniac dictator (Hitler). [...]"


: "Ethic ... is only as good as the situation allows it! -- What's worth an bunch of opionens and ideologies which don't let you even survive? -- <font color="#777777">If we really need to afraid people, let's do it, I'd say. You know a bad solution is still better than no solution."</font>
: "Ethic ... is only as good as the situation allows it! -- What's worth an bunch of opinions and ideologies which don't let you even survive? -- <font color="#777777">If we really need to afraid people, let's do it, I'd say. You know a bad solution is still better than no solution."</font>


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Pensatore: "I see I cannot stop you guys. But hopfully I can you influence enough to think about a proper framework."
Pensatore: "I see I cannot stop you guys. But hopefully I can you influence enough to think about a proper framework."




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The Daodan Chrysalis (short: Daodan) produces “fitting mutations”. Only that way, the same damage source won't be dangerous again in the future.
The Daodan Chrysalis (short: Daodan) produces always mutations that are really needed. Only that way the same damage source won't be dangerous again in the future.


Thus the type of damage becomes analyzed and therefore the Daodan requires a sensor system.
Thus the type of damage becomes analyzed and therefore the Daodan requires a sensor system.
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Some abilities can't be simply or sufficiently integrated into an organism but its product can be received from a symbiont.
Some abilities can't be simply or sufficiently integrated into an organism but its product can be received from a symbiont.


So, it seems likely to enlist microorganisms for more sensory tasks and abilities which are actually alien to the human. For this reason, the Daodan needs to upgrade the microorganisms' genomes as well. Their totality is called microbiome.
So, it seems likely to enlist microorganisms for more sensory tasks and abilities which are actually alien to the human. For this reason the Daodan needs to upgrade the genomes of all the microorganisms [[wikipedia:Microbiome|(microbiom)]] as well.


Next, communication between the symbionts has to be ensured. A more or less standardized cell organelle might do the job by using messenger substances. Or it transmits different electromagnetic waves which existence doesn't seem too alien in comparison to the real bioelectric field of each living organism and wound give an explanation attempt of the Daodan glow. (Some metabolic waste products – which are released through the body surface together with perspiration – might become stimulated to glow by the field.)
Next, communication between the symbionts has to be ensured. A more or less standardized cell organelle might do the job by using messenger substances. Or it transmits different electromagnetic waves which existence doesn't seem too alien in comparison to the real bioelectric field of each living organism and wound give an explanation attempt of the Daodan glow. (Some metabolic waste products – which are released through the body surface together with perspiration – might become stimulated to glow by the field.)
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If we want to know more about the decision making algorithms (and their physical structures) which calculates the mutations, we will need to ask Hasegawa. ;-)
If we want to know more about the decision making algorithms (and their physical structures) which calculates the mutations, we will need to ask Hasegawa. ;-)


Depending on the target – human Daodan genome, Daodan microbiome, both their epigenomes, or even organelle genomes (like mitochondrions and plastids have) – a few different “vectors” (e.g. viruses) need to be available to transport the mutation. (To ease further talk one might like to merge the genome names under one term like Daodan metagenome or even shorter daogenome.)
Depending on the target – human Daodan genome, Daodan microbiome, both their epigenomes, or even organelle genomes (like mitochondrions and plastids have) – a few different “vectors” (e.g. viruses) need to be available to transport the mutation. (To ease further talk one might like to fall back on the terms holobiont, sum of symbionts, and hologenom, sum of symbionts' genomes.)


However, it's hard to believe that the Daodan could be able to come up with fitting mutations completely by its own. It seems more likely to me that it draws on “genetic building blocks” holding basis information for fast regeneration, resistances, different metabolisms, and so on.
However, it's hard to believe that the Daodan could be able to come up with fitting mutations completely by its own. It seems more likely to me that it draws on “genetic building blocks” holding basis information for fast regeneration, resistances, different metabolisms, and so on.


Muro and Mai got implanted with prototypes, indeed, but after more than 15 years I think the Syndicate accomplished to developed a Daodan allowing its mass production. This second generation would be independent from the host's sex (XX / YX chromosomes) and metagenome's composition by providing level-zero stem cells. These can target any compatible symbiont cell and then do a “configuration” (whereby they dissolve the unnecessary genetic material) to become classic stem cells and microbes.
Muro and Mai got implanted with prototypes, indeed, but after more than 15 years I think the Syndicate accomplished to developed a Daodan allowing its mass production. This second generation would be independent from the host's sex (XX / YX chromosomes) and the microbiom's composition by providing level-zero stem cells. These can target any compatible symbiont cell and then do a “configuration” (whereby they dissolve the unnecessary genetic material) to become classic stem cells and microbes.
 
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'''Erklärungsversuch der biologischen Dimension'''
'''Erklärungsversuch der biologischen Dimension'''
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Die Daodan-Chrysalis (kurz: Daodan) produziert „passende Mutationen“. Denn nur so kann die gleiche Schadensquelle in Zukunft ausgeschlossen werden.
Die Daodan-Chrysalis (kurz: Daodan) produziert immer die Mutationen, die auch benötigten werden. Nur So kann die gleiche Schadensquelle in Zukunft ausgeschlossen werden.


Also wird die Art des Schadens analysiert und somit benötigt die Daodan auch ein sensorisches System.
Also wird die Art des Schadens analysiert und somit benötigt die Daodan auch ein sensorisches System.
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Manche Fähigkeiten lassen sich nicht so einfach oder nur unzureichend in einen Organismus integrieren. Ihr Produkt kann aber durch einen Symbiosepartner geliefert werden.
Manche Fähigkeiten lassen sich nicht so einfach oder nur unzureichend in einen Organismus integrieren. Ihr Produkt kann aber durch einen Symbiosepartner geliefert werden.


Es ist also naheliegend die Mikroorganismen für weitere Sensorik und eigentlich humanfremde Fähigkeiten heranzuziehen. Aus diesem Grund muss die Daodan auch die Genome der Mikroorganismen, zusammengefasst Mikrobiom genannt, aufrüsten.
Es ist also naheliegend die Mikroorganismen für weitere Sensorik und eigentlich humanfremde Fähigkeiten heranzuziehen. Aus diesem Grund muss die Daodan auch die Genome der Mikroorganismen (Mirobiom) aufrüsten.


Als nächstes muss Kommunikation zwischen den Symbiosepartner sichergestellt werden. Ein mehr oder weniger standardisiertes Zellorganell in jeder Daodanzelle könnte vielleicht über Botenstoffe dem Rechnung tragen. Oder es sendet verschiedene elektromagnetische Wellen aus, deren Existenz gegenüber dem bioelektrischen Feld eines jeden lebenden Organismus als nicht zu weit hergeholt erscheinen mag und ein Erklärungsansatz für die Daodan-Aura bieten würde. (Einige Stoffwechselabfallprodukte, die über die Haut mit dem Schweiß abgegeben werden, könnten in dem Feld zum leuchten angeregt werden.)
Als nächstes muss Kommunikation zwischen den Symbiosepartner sichergestellt werden. Ein mehr oder weniger standardisiertes Zellorganell in jeder Daodanzelle könnte vielleicht über Botenstoffe dem Rechnung tragen. Oder es sendet verschiedene elektromagnetische Wellen aus, deren Existenz gegenüber dem bioelektrischen Feld eines jeden lebenden Organismus als nicht zu weit hergeholt erscheinen mag und ein Erklärungsansatz für die Daodan-Aura bieten würde. (Einige Stoffwechselabfallprodukte, die über die Haut mit dem Schweiß abgegeben werden, könnten in dem Feld zum leuchten angeregt werden.)
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Für die genauen Entscheidungsalgorithmen und ihrer physischen Strukturen zur Mutationsfindung müssten wir wohl Hasegawa fragen. ;-)
Für die genauen Entscheidungsalgorithmen und ihrer physischen Strukturen zur Mutationsfindung müssten wir wohl Hasegawa fragen. ;-)


Abhängig vom Ziel – menschliches Daodan-Genom, Daodan-Mikrobiom, ihrer beider Epigenome, oder sogar Organell-Genome (wie Mitochondrien und Plastiden sie haben) – müssen ein paar unterschiedliche „Vektoren“ (unter anderem Viren) verfügbar sein um die Mutation zu transportieren. (Um Diskussionen zu vereinfachen, mag man vielleicht die Gesamtheit der involvierten Genome unter einem Begriff zusammenfassen wie Daodan-Metagenom oder kurz Daogenom.)
Abhängig vom Ziel – menschliches Genom, Mikrobiom, ihrer beider Epigenome, oder sogar Organell-Genome (wie Mitochondrien und Plastiden sie haben) – müssen ein paar unterschiedliche „Vektoren“ (unter anderem Viren) verfügbar sein um die Mutation zu transportieren. (Um Diskussionen zu vereinfachen, mag man vielleicht auf den Begriff [http://www.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de/AG/AlgBio/Research/Research_in_the_News/Dokumente/RM28015.pdf Holobiont], Gesammtheit aller Symbionten, und Hologenom, Gesamtheit aller Symbionten-Genome, zurückgreifen.


Trotzdem ist es schwer zu glauben, dass die Daodan vollkommen alleine im Stande wäre passende Mutationen zu erzeugen. Es ist vielleicht glaubwürdiger, wenn die Daodan auf „genetische Bausteine“ zurückgreift, die Basisinformationen für schnelle Regeneration, Resistenzen, unterschiedliche Stoffwechsel, und so weiter enthalten.
Trotzdem ist es schwer zu glauben, dass die Daodan vollkommen alleine im Stande wäre passende Mutationen zu erzeugen. Es ist vielleicht glaubwürdiger, wenn die Daodan auf „genetische Bausteine“ zurückgreift, die Basisinformationen für schnelle Regeneration, Resistenzen, unterschiedliche Stoffwechsel, und so weiter enthalten.


Muro und Mai wurden Prototypen implantiert, richtig, aber nach mehr als 15 Jahren glaube ich, dass das Syndikat es schafft eine Daodan für die Massenproduktion zu entwickeln. Diese zweite Generation würde durch sogenannte Level-Null-Stammzellen unabhängig vom Geschlecht des Wirts und der Zusammensetzung des mikrobischen Metagenoms sein. Diese Zellen würden jede kompatible Symbiontenzelle zum Ziel haben und nach einer „Konfiguration“ (in welcher sie überflüssiges genetisches Material auflösen) zu klassischen Stammzellen und Mikroben werden.
Muro und Mai wurden Prototypen implantiert, richtig, aber nach mehr als 15 Jahren glaube ich, dass das Syndikat es schafft eine Daodan für die Massenproduktion zu entwickeln. Diese zweite Generation würde durch sogenannte Level-Null-Stammzellen unabhängig vom Geschlecht des Wirts und der Zusammensetzung des Mikrobiom sein. Diese Zellen würden jede kompatible Symbiontenzelle zum Ziel haben und nach einer „Konfiguration“ (in welcher sie überflüssiges genetisches Material auflösen) zu klassischen Stammzellen und Mikroben werden.
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This patch solves only one part of the problem. Existing Daodans would be still a permanent danger, especially the unknown number in Syndicate 'property'. In worst case this threat had to be met on planetary scale. This would require full control over all matter and lifeforms. <!-- (Biocontrol) -->
This patch solves only one part of the problem. Existing Daodans would be still a permanent danger, especially the unknown number in Syndicate 'property'. In worst case this threat had to be met on planetary scale. This would require full control over all matter and lifeforms. <!-- (Biocontrol) -->


Silver Village's terraforming research seemed provide first results just in time. Green Village got access to this data and assembled their own prototypes which become slowly adapted to fight the Daodan. (This version of nanobots haven't reached yet their final stage of development.)
Related topic: [[#Bioc|bioc]]
 
To give the bots capability for self-awareness they form sensor system and equivalents of neural networks (to create a "body image") whereby some nodes use other artificial ''organs'' (for GPS localization, etc). These notes allow humans  control over the growth of the bot collective.
 
To prevent the Daodan's continuing contamination and reconquering of already cleaned areas the bots needs to cloak all lifeforms at first, analyzing them, and then killing all separated microbial Daodan cells. This event is code named "silver dawn". Most of the bots will destroy themselves after done work. Only the subterranean nodes will remain giving the possibility to repeat the process in case few Daodans survived.
 
The nanobots have many mechanisms borrowed from living systems and one of its macroscopic appearances is a crystal. Hence GV personal nick named it "bioc". <!-- (It can have various meanings: Biocrystal, Biocontrol, Biocracy) -->


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'''Kontamination der Umwelt'''
'''Kontamination der Umwelt'''
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Der Patch löst nur ein Problem. Die bereits existeirenden Daodan-Wirte sind weiterhin einen ständige Bedrohung, besonderst die unbekannte Anzahl an Wirten des Syndikats. Im schlimmsten Fall muss die Gefahr auf planetarer Ebene bekämpft werden. Dies würde aber volle Kontrolle über alle Organismen und Materie voraussetzen. <!-- (Biokontrolle) -->
Der Patch löst nur ein Problem. Die bereits existeirenden Daodan-Wirte sind weiterhin einen ständige Bedrohung, besonderst die unbekannte Anzahl an Wirten des Syndikats. Im schlimmsten Fall muss die Gefahr auf planetarer Ebene bekämpft werden. Dies würde aber volle Kontrolle über alle Organismen und Materie voraussetzen. <!-- (Biokontrolle) -->


Silver Village's Terraforming-Forschung schien brauchbare Resultat gerade rechtzeitig zu liefern. Green Village erhielt Zugang zu diesen Daten und baute seine eigenen Prototypen. Diese werden langsam dahingehen angepasst die Daodan bekämpfen zu können. (Diese Art von Nanobots ist noch immer in der Entwicklung.)
Weiterführende Themen: [[#Bioc|Biok]]
 
Um den Bots Selbstwahrnehmung zu ermöglichen, wurden sie programmiert Sensoren und Äquivalente neuronaler Netze zu bilden. Dabei gibt es einige Knotenpunkte, die über zusätzliche künstliche Organe verfügen (für GPS-Lokalisierung, etc). Die Knoten erlauben den Menschen Kontrolle über das Wachstum des Botkollektivs.
 
Um die fortschreitende Kontamination und die Rückeroberung bereits gesäuberter Gebiete durch die Daodan zu verhindern, müssen die Bots zunächst alles Organismen einhüllen, sie analysieren und die separierten Daodan-Zellen schließlich vernichten. Die meisten Bots werden nach getaner Arbeit zerstört. Nur die Unterirdischen Knoten werden zurückbleiben, als Absicherung den Prozess schnell zu wiederholen falls doch ein paar Daodan-Zellen überlebt haben.
 
Die Nanobots haben viele Mechanismen aus der Natur kopiert, und eins ihrer makroskopischen Erscheinungsformen ist ein Kristall. Darum gaben die GV-Forscher den Bots den Spitznamen "Biok". <!-- Je nach Situation: Biokristall, Biokontrolle, Biokratie) -->
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===Taking a look at real symbiosis===
===Taking a look at real symbiosis===
The following subsections are meant to show what real symbiosis is capable of and that it exist between very different species. Therefore those sections display combinations of the so-called [[wikipedia:Kingdom_%28biology%29#Six_kingdoms|kingdoms]].
The word symbiosis means "living together". If the outcomes are good or not is an other question. However, in daily life symbiosis means a relationship of mutual gain.
 
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Unfortunately viruses are unranked so far. But in my layman understanding they would form the fourth domain and seventh kingdom of life.
 
The following subsections are meant to show what real symbiosis is capable of and that it exist between very different species. Therefore those sections display combinations of the so-called [[wikipedia:Kingdom_%28biology%29#Six_kingdoms|kingdoms]]. (As a layman I still prefer the older and simpler model.) Unfortunately viruses are unranked so far.


: '''Are viruses lifeforms?'''
: '''Are viruses lifeforms?'''
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: Incorporation of genetic material happened more than once. When the human genome was [[wikipedia:DNA_sequencing|sequenced]] on a  [[wikipedia:Human_Genome_Project|great scale]], only 1.4% has been found out to encode our ''building material'' - the proteins - the rest appeared to be "junk" DNA. Today we know that 8.5% are old retroviruses (HERVs). -- This brings Agent Smith from the movie Matrix into mind when he [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI classified humans as a virus] because of certain similarities: according to him humans replicated unchecked, consume all resources, and spread to a new area (host) when one area ran out of resources. Now he would have a genetic proof you might think: our DNA is more "virus" than "human". -- Well, the old retroviruses are almost all defective so they don't matter much. Also, noncoding but function holding RNA and regulatory sequences - ''tools'' and ''building instructions'' - have been identified from the junk by now. So, yes, no need to panic, we can have a calm sleep tonight.
: Incorporation of genetic material happened more than once. When the human genome was [[wikipedia:DNA_sequencing|sequenced]] on a  [[wikipedia:Human_Genome_Project|great scale]], only 1.4% has been found out to encode our ''building material'' - the proteins - the rest appeared to be "junk" DNA. Today we know that 8.5% are old retroviruses (HERVs). -- This brings Agent Smith from the movie Matrix into mind when he [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI classified humans as a virus] because of certain similarities: according to him humans replicated unchecked, consume all resources, and spread to a new area (host) when one area ran out of resources. Now he would have a genetic proof you might think: our DNA is more "virus" than "human". -- Well, the old retroviruses are almost all defective so they don't matter much. Also, noncoding but function holding RNA and regulatory sequences - ''tools'' and ''building instructions'' - have been identified from the junk by now. So, yes, no need to panic, we can have a calm sleep tonight.


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==Bioc==
==Bioc==
Abbreviation for its nickname ''bio crystal''.
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"Bioc" is an abbreviation for its nickname ''bio crystal''. The name was given due to many borrowed mechanisms from living ("bio") systems and one of the prototypes macroscopic appearances is a crystal. <!-- (It can have various meanings: Biocrystal, Biocontrol, Biocracy) -->
 
The bioc is a research project of Silver Village (SV) which is again financed by WCG's Aeronautics and Space Administration (formerly known as NASA). The project involves nanorobots for terraforming other planets.
 
During high peaks of the [[BioCrisis|environmental crisis]] an idea arose to repurpose the bots. They should be used to filter out the toxic substances from the environment of the own planet.
 
After the [[12/3|Big Bang]] WCG politics demanded also its assignment to eliminate genetic material of Daodans in the wild.
 
Originally the bioc should be ASA's tool to find, analyze and eventually manipulate matter as well as extraterrestrial microbial life forms. Now it's going to be WCG last ''instrument'' against toxic air, Daodan threats and Syndicate actions...
 
The biological aspects of the research were outsourced to the sister facility Green Village (GV). A few different versions of bioc prototypes were produced there before the complex became partially destroyed.
 
To allow self-awareness the bots form sensor systems and neural networks (like SLD do) whereby some tactical "nodes" use additional ''organs'' (for GPS localization, etc). These nodes allow humans to control the bot collective. The nodes are created when the bot population reached a critical mass.
 
To prevent the Daodan's continuing contamination and reconquering of already cleaned areas the bots needs to cloak all lifeforms at first, analyzing them, and then killing all separated microbial Daodan cells. This event is code named "silver dawn". It's planed that all bots on and inside of organism will destroyed themselves while the subterranean nodes will remain for sure for economic purposes.
 
However, some are worried that the responsible people will succumb to the tremendous power and let remain the bots inside the organisms especially humans. But just as well hackers could succeed in taking over the system. The WCG will think twice if they want to unleash the bots into the world. Silver Dawn could change everything - to the good or to the bad.
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"Biok" ist eine Abkürzung für seinen Nicknamen "Biokristall". Der Name lehnt an Mechanismen der belebten Natur ("bio") an sowie der makroskopischen Gestalten einiger ''Zelltypen" der Prototypen, die wie ein Kristalle aussehen. <!-- Je nach Situation: Biokristall, Biokontrolle, Biokratie) -->
 
Der Biok ist ein Forschungsprojekt von Silver Dawn, einer Einrichtung, die wiederum von der WKR's Aeronautics and Space Administration (ASA), der ehemaligen NASA, finanziert wird. Das Projekt umfasst selbstreplizierende, semi-autonome Nanoroboter für das Terraforming anderer Planeten.
 
Nach wiederkehrenden Rekordwerten der Giftkonzentrationen in der Atmosphäre, Boden und Gewässer kam die Idee auf die Nanoroboter etwas umzufunktionieren. Sie sollten die giftigen Subtanzen aus der Umwelt des eigenen Planeten filtern.
 
Nach dem Big Bang forderten WCG-Politiker auch den Einsatz der Nanobots zur Eliminierung von Daodan-Genmaterial in der freien Wildbahn.
 
Ursprüngliche sollte der Biok ein Werkzeug der ASA sein Materie wie auch extraterrestrisch-mikrobiologisches Leben zu finden, zu analysieren und letztendlich auch zu manipulieren. Nun würde es das letzte ''Mittel'' der WCG gegen toxische Luft, Daodan-DNA, und Syndikat-Aktionen sein...
 
Zur Erschaffung einer Selbstwahrnehmung formen die Bots Sensorsysteme und neuronaler Netzwerke (wie SLD es tun) wobei einige taktischer Knotenpunkte mit weitere ''Organe'' gebildet werden  (z. B. Seismische Ortungssystem und GPS-Receiver). Diese Knoten erlaubt aber auch Kontrolle über das Bot-kollektiv von Seiten des Menschen. Die  Knoten werden erst gebildet wenn eine ''kritische Masse'' im Bot-Kollektiv erreicht wurde.
 
Um zu verhindern, dass die Daodan die Umwelt mit ihrer DNA ''kontaminiert'' oder rückerobert, müssen die Bots alles Lebensformen einschließen, sie analysieren, und dann alle losgelösten mikrobielle Daodan-Zellen. Dem Ereignis wurde der Codename "Silver Dawn" gegeben. Es ist geplant, dass alle Bots, die verschonten Organismen wieder verlassen und insbesondere nur die Unterirdischen Knoten für zukünftige ökonomische und ökologische Zwecke zurückbleiben.
 
Allerdings gibt es einige Befürchtungen, dass die Verantwortlichen der ungeheuren Macht erliegen könnten und die Bots nicht wieder aus den Organismen abziehen. Genauso gut könnten es auch Hacker geben, die das System unter ihre Kontrolle bringen. Die WCG wird sich zweimal überlegen ob sie die Bots wirklich auf die Welt loslassen will. Silver Dawn könnte Alles verändern - zum Gutem wie auch zum Schlechten.
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===Comparing DC and Bioc===
===Comparing DC and Bioc===
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Mirrors old human behavior.
Mirrors old human behavior.
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The  behavior of both - DC and bioc - are extreme. And extremes doesn't last very long therefore a sythesis is needed. How new guidlines could look like:
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The  behavior of both - DC and bioc - are extreme. And extremes tend to not last very long therefore a sythesis might be needed. How new guidlines could look like:


Analyzing threats: Adapt to harmful stimuli <u>if</u> limits become exceeded.
Analyzing threats: Adapt to harmful stimuli <u>if</u> limits become exceeded.
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* and nanospintronics would also allow hybrid components for calculation and memory (these information were adapted from [http://idw-online.de/pages/de/attachmentdata8851.pdf here] [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/139715/OniGalore/RS_T_Sources/attachmentdata8851.pdf (mirror)])
* and nanospintronics would also allow hybrid components for calculation and memory (these information were adapted from [http://idw-online.de/pages/de/attachmentdata8851.pdf here] [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/139715/OniGalore/RS_T_Sources/attachmentdata8851.pdf (mirror)])


That's the point which is especially interessting because of the analogy to biological ''componets''. Also biological brains uses one type of ''components'' for two things - the nerons store '''and''' process information.
That's the point which is especially interessting because of the analogy to biological ''components''. Also biological brains uses one type of ''components'' for two things - the nerons store '''and''' process information.




===Are SLDs alive?===
===Are SLDs alive?===
Let's see at the following points to discuss this topic.
* "The SLD project is an attempt to recreate human physiology with artificial materials."
* "The SLD project is an attempt to recreate human physiology with artificial materials."
* SLD are classified as androids.
* SLD are classified as androids.
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:: "This core '''personality''' is then given a chance to develop a unique neurolattice while experiencing accelerated streaming sensory feeds."
:: "This core '''personality''' is then given a chance to develop a unique neurolattice while experiencing accelerated streaming sensory feeds."
:: "Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their '''psychological''' womb."
:: "Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their '''psychological''' womb."
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence Emergence] is not limited to one type of molecules, components, etc.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence Emergence] - new properties, behaviors, etc. of a system which the single parts not feature. Also commonly known under the phrase: "more than the sum of its parts". Two examples: gas has a temperature but not the single molecules, a brain has a mind but single neurons don't.




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We have to ask why they didn't imitate another life form. Why not a bacteria, a plant, or an animal?
We have to ask why they didn't imitate another life form. Why not a bacteria, a plant, or an animal?
: Side note: SLD are made of "artificial materials" and "micromechanical fabrication cells" and thus the basis is very unlikely to be DNA.
: Side note: SLD are made of "artificial materials" and "micromechanical fabrication cells" and thus the basis is very unlikely to be DNA.
So the SLD project wasn't about immune systems, metabolisms, and not primarily about somatic functions. What's the big difference between humans and other life forms on earth? In all modesty it seems that the human mind is our biggest and most interesting difference. And it's still a mystery.
So the SLD project wasn't about immune systems, metabolisms, and not primarily about somatic functions. What's the big difference between humans and other life forms on earth? In all modesty it seems that the human mind is our biggest and most interesting difference. And it's still a mystery in Oni's story as well as in reality.


The SLD researchers admit it: "One thing we [[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b |still cannot do]] is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind."
*SLD scientist: "One thing we [[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b |still cannot do]] is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind."


That could be related to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Real_intelligence_vs_simulated_intelligence Turing word:] "I do not wish to give the impression that I think there is no mystery about consciousness. There is, for instance, something of a paradox connected with any attempt to localise it."
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Real_intelligence_vs_simulated_intelligence Turing:] "I do not wish to give the impression that I think there is no mystery about consciousness. There is, for instance, something of a paradox connected with any attempt to localise it."


So the solution seems to somewhat (if not entirely) copy an already existing brain.
So the solution seems to somewhat (if not entirely) copy an already existing brain.
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With the obtained data, the mind doesn't need to become ''reinvented'' but analyzed. After the phase of analysis a true artificial intelligence could be designed.
With the obtained data, the mind doesn't need to become ''reinvented'' but analyzed. After the phase of analysis a true artificial intelligence could be designed.


: Another side note: SLD brain engrams involves coping of brain information and that looks very similar to what is called mind uploading. That again is thought to be an approach to AIs. Ergo, in Oni AIs might be near although the Syndicate developed Deadly Brains. DB would be obsolete if AIs would already exist. Or maybe those are much more expensive...
: Another side note: SLD brain engrams involves coping of brain information and that looks very similar to what is called mind uploading. That again is thought to be an approach to AIs. Ergo, in Oni AIs might be near although the Syndicate developed Deadly Brains. DB would be obsolete if AIs would already exist. (Or maybe AIs are not only much more difficult to construct but much more expensive as well...)


However, the abilities* claimed in the manual could be requirements for the SLD brain/mind to work normally because it simply awaits some body functions.
However, the abilities* claimed in the manual could be requirements for the SLD brain/mind to work normally because it simply awaits some body functions.
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*[[Heavy_weapons#Gatling_guns|Gatling guns]]
*[[Heavy_weapons#Gatling_guns|Gatling guns]]
*[[Heavy_weapons#Metal_Storm|Metal Storm]]
*[[Heavy_weapons#Metal_Storm|Metal Storm]]
*[[Heavy_weapons#Plasma_laser|laser-induced plasma beam in tempests]] ("red link")
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: ( http://www.g-o.de/wissen-aktuell-8091-2008-04-15.html )
(hypothetical)
*laser-induced plasma beam in tempests [http://www.g-o.de/wissen-aktuell-8091-2008-04-15.html (src)]
*[[wikipedia:Bose-Einstein_condensate|BEC]] + pyroelectric fusion <!-- problem: temperature difference, solution: see term "emergence" -->
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