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Pensatore: "Usually revolutions turn out to be quite bloody. Many people will die in the chaos. From a scientist I expected a more ethical suggestion."
Pensatore: "Usually revolutions turn out to be quite bloody. Many people will die in the chaos. From a scientist I expected a more ethical suggestion."


: Ethics for its own sake is not an option. Look at history. On the verge of death men [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#Cannibalism ate other men]<!--also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#World_War_II-->, even corpses. For the simple reason: to survive. Also, convinced Christian came to the conclusion that  death to a megalomaniac dictators can be justified. -- Ethics are only as good as the situation allows it! Of how much worth are rules and laws which don't let you survive?"
: "Ethics for its own sake is not an option. Look at history. On the verge of death men [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#Cannibalism ate other men]<!--also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#World_War_II-->, even corpses. For the simple reason: to survive. Also, convinced Christian came to the conclusion that  death to a megalomaniac dictators can be justified. -- Ethics are only as good as the situation allows it! Of how much worth are rules and laws which don't let you survive?"


And you believe we are in such a situation? Certainly, the WCG isn't the optimum but this is a bit too much in my opinion. -- What do you have in mind? Do you want as a geneticist make a biological intervention that takes all of the control humans wrest from mother nature in the last [[wikipedia:Control_of_fire_by_early_humans|125,000 years]]?
"And you believe we are in such a situation? Certainly, the WCG isn't the optimum but this is a bit too much in my opinion. -- What do you have in mind? Do you want as a geneticist make a biological intervention that takes all of the control humans wrest from mother nature in the last [[wikipedia:Control_of_fire_by_early_humans|125,000 years]]?"


: What means the fire to men when they burn themselves and learn hardy from the mistakes? -- No, I'm not throwing it away, I just take a part and give it to a new instance of ourselves. The new possibilities will create a society where collision of interests and foul compromises can be avoided.
: "What means the fire to men when they burn themselves and learn hardy from the mistakes? -- No, I'm not throwing it away, I just take a part and give it to a new instance of ourselves. The new possibilities will create a society where collision of interests and foul compromises can be avoided."


What are the details of your plan?
"What are the details of your plan?"


: All our cells collect information which they use in cases of emergency to transform themselves. That inner safeguard will have the possibility to compensate injuries caused by wrong decisions the human mind made.
: "All our cells collect information which they use in cases of emergency to transform themselves. That inner safeguard will have the possibility to compensate injuries caused by wrong decisions the human mind made."


A biocracy ... on cellular level?
"A biocracy ... on cellular level?"


: I call it a Daodan Chysalis.
: "I call it a Daodan Chysalis."


I must say it again, such radical changes will trigger fear, chaos and death!
"I must say it again, such radical changes will trigger fear, chaos and death!"


: We live in permanent evolution and that brings always unknown things. All I do is to speed things up. I bet you could sell it as a genetic upgrade against diseases and then there will be less problems.
: "We live in permanent evolution and that brings always unknown things. All I do is to speed things up. I bet you could sell it as a genetic upgrade against diseases and then there will be less problems."


Do you suggest to lie to everybody?
"Do you suggest to lie to everybody?"


: "Have you ever told your children that Santa brings the presents? -- Even if we aren't aware of it: [http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2051177,00.html we lie daily]."
: "Have you ever told your children that Santa brings the presents? -- Even if we aren't aware of it: [http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2051177,00.html we lie daily]."


That's something different. If Muro rips off your beard, then he might be disappointed to not see Santa. But if someone finds out what you project is really about then we have again a horror scenario.
"That's something different. If Muro rips off your beard, then he might be disappointed to not see Santa. But if someone finds out what you project is really about then we have again a horror scenario."


: We don't need to force people to get them a Daodan.
: "We don't need to force people to get them a Daodan."


A parallel society with mutants doesn't make the situation necessarily better.
"A parallel society with mutants doesn't make the situation necessarily better."


: Would you blame me for the racism of other people?
: "Would you blame me for the racism of other people?"


You want to put Daodan into this world and also know how people will react. So yes, you would be responsible.
"You want to put Daodan into this world and also know how people will react. So yes, you would be responsible."


:Oh, that's makes it really ease for you...
: "Oh, that's makes it really ease for you..."


Listen, I know that Jamie's death was a tragedy for you and all others who knew her. But do you really think she would have wanted that innocents die by your innovation? -- You should find a way to introduce your project to the world in a slow pace.
"Listen, I know that Jamie's death was a tragedy for you and all others who knew her. But do you really think she would have wanted that innocents die by your innovation? -- You should find a way to introduce your project to the world in a slow pace."
 
: "I want to use my anger and desperation to create a change."
: "I don't want to return to a calm mindset where daily life takes over. This just  brought us into this situation. -- I know the Daodan comes with risks. But life without the necessity of taking risks is an illusion."


:I want to use my anger and desperation to create a change.
:I don't want to return to a calm mindset where daily life takes over. This just  brought us into this situation. -- I know the Daodan comes with risks. But life without the necessity of taking risks is an illusion.


At this point Mukade can drop in and suggest to use the Daodan as a ''carrot'' to infiltrate the Syndicate, then repairing the ACCs and bringing down the WCG little by little.
At this point Mukade can drop in and suggest to use the Daodan as a ''carrot'' to infiltrate the Syndicate, then repairing the ACCs and bringing down the WCG little by little.
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Side note: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5ojdciO1E "When the wild wind blows" by Iron Maiden] cries for an AMV-style video of a custom level featuring Jamie and the Prof. in the city and the wilderness.
Side note: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5ojdciO1E "When the wild wind blows" by Iron Maiden] (up to time code 10:00) might fit for an AMV-styled video of a custom level featuring Jamie and the Prof. in the city and the wilderness. On a second thought it could be also used for the Sturmänderung event.




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