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: [[Quotes/Speech#Scanner_room|13_65_35]] Kerr: "You are who you have always been. The Chrysalis can't change that. The effect of the mutation is influenced by the subject's nature."
: [[Quotes/Speech#Scanner_room|13_65_35]] Kerr: "You are who you have always been. The Chrysalis can't change that. The effect of the mutation is influenced by the subject's nature."


More speculation on Daodan body and mind in the section "[[#Explanation_attempt_of_the_biological_dimension|explanation attempt]] [...]".
More speculation on Daodan body and mind in the "[[#Attempted_explanation_of_the_biological_dimension|Attempted explanation...]]" section.


At least Kerr admits that the Daodan is unknown territory.
At least Kerr admits that the Daodan is unknown territory.
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: At this point the networked supercomputer had clusters all over the world and was named AVATARA. (This full body simulation depicting AI was remote-controlling a robot, its avatar.)
: At this point the networked supercomputer had clusters all over the world and was named AVATARA. (This full body simulation depicting AI was remote-controlling a robot, its avatar.)


: The collected data from this "[[Restless_Souls/Technology#Speculation_about_brain_components|SLD generation 0]]" wasn't enough to design an AI from scratch because most of the data still needed years to be fully analyzed.
: The collected data from this "[[#Speculation_about_brain_components|SLD generation 0]]" wasn't enough to design an AI from scratch because most of the data still needed years to be fully analyzed.


: With the bits of knowledge learned from generation 0, and ongoing technological progress, Pensatore would soon start the research on SLD generation 1.
: With the bits of knowledge learned from generation 0, and ongoing technological progress, Pensatore would soon start the research on SLD generation 1.
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===Aftermath===
===Aftermath===
====[[Restless_Souls/Technology#Mukade.2C_the_SLD|Ego-Hybrida]]====
====[[#Mukade.2C_the_SLD|Ego-Hybrida]]====


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Nach Gründung der WCG, ließ sie ihre Wissenschaftler Pläne entwickeln um die nukleare Kontamination zu beseitigen. - Damit sollten WCG-kritische Stimmen besänftigt werden, die die neue Weltordnung als überflüssig und ungerechtfertig ansahen. Man wollte angeblich zeigen wozu einzelne Staaten nicht im Stande gewesen waren. - Die Lösung war eine künstliche Symbiose aus Pilzen und Pflanzen. Diese [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykorrhiza Mykorrhiza] war dazu gedacht die radioaktiven Isotope zu absorbieren und sie in einer Art Nuss aufzubewahren. Dronen sollten diese ernten. --><!-- NipponBiotec --> <!--Die Hülle war hart und enthielt Bitterstoffe, sodass Tiere diese Nüsse nicht fressen. Pilz und Pflanze waren unfähig sich auszubreiten weil ihre Zellen, einschließlich DNA und möglicher Mutationen, sich [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140404140403.htm nach einem Jahr auflösten.] Die zeitliche Kontrolle war wichtig weil die Mykorrhiza nicht nur das obere Erdreich säuber würde sonder auch ganze Wiesen und Wälder um alle Radionuklide in nicht-tierischen Organismen zu sammlen. Die Entwicklung wurde durch [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_silico in silico Tests], also Computersimulationen, beschleunigt, die die Mykorrhiza-Genome auf kritische Mutationen hin untersuchten. Im Labor schienen die Genome stabil genug sodass die Offiziellen nach Feldtests drängten. Doch in der Natur sammelten sich Mutationen auf eine nicht verhergesagte Art und Weise an. Schon bald waren die genetischen Sicherungsmassnahmen ausgehebelt. Von nun an verbreitete sich die Mykorrhiza. Nach nur einem Jahr beeinflusste sie auch andere Organismen. Dies markiert den Beginn der BioCrisis. Seitdem kämpfen Rückgewinnungsteams gegen die mutierende Wildnis und die WCG versucht die ihre fatalen Fehler unter den Teppich zu kehren.
Nach Gründung der WCG, ließ sie ihre Wissenschaftler Pläne entwickeln um die nukleare Kontamination zu beseitigen. - Damit sollten WCG-kritische Stimmen besänftigt werden, die die neue Weltordnung als überflüssig und ungerechtfertig ansahen. Man wollte angeblich zeigen wozu einzelne Staaten nicht im Stande gewesen waren. - Die Lösung war eine künstliche Symbiose aus Pilzen und Pflanzen. Diese [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykorrhiza Mykorrhiza] war dazu gedacht die radioaktiven Isotope zu absorbieren und sie in einer Art Nuss aufzubewahren. Dronen sollten diese ernten. --><!-- NipponBiotec --> <!--Die Hülle war hart und enthielt Bitterstoffe, sodass Tiere diese Nüsse nicht fressen. Pilz und Pflanze waren unfähig sich auszubreiten weil ihre Zellen, einschließlich DNA und möglicher Mutationen, sich [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140404140403.htm nach einem Jahr auflösten.] Die zeitliche Kontrolle war wichtig weil die Mykorrhiza nicht nur das obere Erdreich säuber würde sonder auch ganze Wiesen und Wälder um alle Radionuklide in nicht-tierischen Organismen zu sammlen. Die Entwicklung wurde durch [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_silico in silico Tests], also Computersimulationen, beschleunigt, die die Mykorrhiza-Genome auf kritische Mutationen hin untersuchten. Im Labor schienen die Genome stabil genug sodass die Offiziellen nach Feldtests drängten. Doch in der Natur sammelten sich Mutationen auf eine nicht verhergesagte Art und Weise an. Schon bald waren die genetischen Sicherungsmassnahmen ausgehebelt. Von nun an verbreitete sich die Mykorrhiza. Nach nur einem Jahr beeinflusste sie auch andere Organismen. Dies markiert den Beginn der BioCrisis. Seitdem kämpfen Rückgewinnungsteams gegen die mutierende Wildnis und die WCG versucht die ihre fatalen Fehler unter den Teppich zu kehren.


Jamie und Prof. Hasegawa suchen in den "Naturschutzgebieten" nach weniger mutierten Mykorrhiza-Arten um nachweisen zu können, dass das Problem menschengemacht ist. Beim Durchstreifen der Quarantänezone infiziert sich Jamie mit dem verzehrenden Pilz, der beginnt ihr Gewebe aufzulösen. Die CDC glaubt es sei ein Virus, da für sie der Auflösungsprozess Ebola ähnlich sieht. Hasegawa gelangt später an eine Gewebeprobe von Jamie und vergleicht sie mit einer frischen Probe aus der Quarantänezone. Er erkennt, dass Mykorrhiza entartet war und dass er für die Chrysalis auch einen Sicherheitsmechanismus braucht damit es nicht zu [http://wiki.oni2.net/Restless_Souls/Technology#Contamination_of_the_ecosystem Interaktionen mit der Umwelt] kommt.
Jamie und Prof. Hasegawa suchen in den "Naturschutzgebieten" nach weniger mutierten Mykorrhiza-Arten um nachweisen zu können, dass das Problem menschengemacht ist. Beim Durchstreifen der Quarantänezone infiziert sich Jamie mit dem verzehrenden Pilz, der beginnt ihr Gewebe aufzulösen. Die CDC glaubt es sei ein Virus, da für sie der Auflösungsprozess Ebola ähnlich sieht. Hasegawa gelangt später an eine Gewebeprobe von Jamie und vergleicht sie mit einer frischen Probe aus der Quarantänezone. Er erkennt, dass Mykorrhiza entartet war und dass er für die Chrysalis auch einen Sicherheitsmechanismus braucht damit es nicht zu [#Contamination_of_the_ecosystem Interaktionen mit der Umwelt] kommt.


Die Regierung ließ verzweifelt aggressive Herbizide und Fungizide ausbringen, die die Mykorrhiza vernichten sollten. Die chemischen Rückstände sammelten sich stetig in Luft, Wasser und Boden. Die Luft wurde in absehbarer Zeit sogar für den Menschen gift. Das wiederum zwang die WCG die sogenannten Atmosphärischen Konversionszentren zu bauen. Damit tauschten sie ein großes Übel gegen ein nur geringfügig Kleineres ein.
Die Regierung ließ verzweifelt aggressive Herbizide und Fungizide ausbringen, die die Mykorrhiza vernichten sollten. Die chemischen Rückstände sammelten sich stetig in Luft, Wasser und Boden. Die Luft wurde in absehbarer Zeit sogar für den Menschen gift. Das wiederum zwang die WCG die sogenannten Atmosphärischen Konversionszentren zu bauen. Damit tauschten sie ein großes Übel gegen ein nur geringfügig Kleineres ein.
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Mehr Spekulationen zu Körper und Geist der Daodan in der Sektion
Mehr Spekulationen zu Körper und Geist der Daodan in der Sektion
"[[#Explanation_attempt_of_the_biological_dimension|Erklärungsversuch]] [...]".
"[[#Attempted_explanation_of_the_biological_dimension|Erklärungsversuch]] [...]".


Immerhin gibt Kerr zu, dass die Daodan neues Terrain ist.
Immerhin gibt Kerr zu, dass die Daodan neues Terrain ist.
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'''1.4 Mental control'''
'''1.4 Mental control'''


As described in "Arguments of an in vivo Daodan", the human mind might influence the transformation.
As described in "Arguments for an in vivo Daodan", the human mind might influence the transformation.


The more brain cells are daodanized, the easier the transformation could be controlled.
The more brain cells are daodanized, the easier the transformation could be controlled.


This can be seen in contrast what Hasegawa actually wanted, adding automatic protection to the human body.
This can be seen in contrast to what Hasegawa actually wanted -- adding automatic protection to the human body.


However, the possibility that messing with your own body can result in sickness or death should be common sense.
However, the possibility that messing with your own body can result in sickness or death should be common sense.


So, you better don't interfere unless you are an expert of genetics ("Study the handbook duh!") or you don't have no other choice and learn by trail and error.
So, you'd better not interfere unless you are an expert in genetics ("Read the manual, duh!"), or you have no other choice but to learn by trial and error.


Wouldn't that be very risky? With total control over DNA and anatomy it should be possible the test the changes only in a few cells before applying them to the rest.
Wouldn't that be very risky? With total control over DNA and anatomy, it should be possible the test the changes only in a few cells before applying them to the rest.


Still, it would be wishful thinking that everything turns out okay.
Still, it would be wishful thinking that everything turns out okay.


For that reason Pensatore could have rejected the Daodan for himself. He believes that only more wisdom can bring a true solution. (Ref. Biocracy, Omega-Chimera)
For that reason, Pensatore could have rejected the Daodan for himself. He believes that only more wisdom can bring a true solution. (Ref. Biocracy, Omega-Chimera)


To summarize the helpfulness of the ''human factor'' in this connection, with a total control and the technical knowledge it's theoretical possible to ''conquer'' the Bioc from within.
To summarize the helpfulness of the ''human factor'' in this connection, with total control and technical knowledge, it's theoretical possible to ''conquer'' the Bioc from within.


==SLD==
==SLD==
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====generation 0====
====generation 0====


Improvements in silicon chips are reaching their limits. With all the promising research going on we can expect new standards in a foreseeable future.
Improvements in silicon chips are reaching their limits. With all the promising research going on, we can expect new standards in a foreseeable future.


What can change? Materials, information carrier and architecture.
What can change? Materials, information transmission, and architecture.


The new standards will deliver more computing power, and with enough computing power, pretty much everything can be simulated.
The new standards will deliver more computing power, and with enough computing power, pretty much everything can be simulated.
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Right now it looks like [http://phys.org/news/2014-08-optalysys-prototype-optical-processor.html optical] and [http://phys.org/news/2014-08-tiny-chip-mimics-brain-supercomputer.html#ajTabs neurosynaptic] processors will hit the market before memristor- and spintronic-based processors do.
Right now it looks like [http://phys.org/news/2014-08-optalysys-prototype-optical-processor.html optical] and [http://phys.org/news/2014-08-tiny-chip-mimics-brain-supercomputer.html#ajTabs neurosynaptic] processors will hit the market before memristor- and spintronic-based processors do.


If we assume a human neocortex with 1 million cortical columns each with 60.000 neurons, it would take 60.000 of IBM's new neurosynaptic processors each with 1.000.000 programmable neurons to do the job.
If we assume a human neocortex with 1 million cortical columns, each with 60.000 neurons, it would take 60.000 of IBM's new neurosynaptic processors, each with 1.000.000 programmable neurons, to do the job.


A SLD brain with components based on these technologies might be possible but would be still far to big in size. It might fill a little building and remote control its body. So that's generation 0.
A SLD brain with components based on these technologies might be possible but would be still far too big in size. It might fill a small building, and remotely control its body. So that's generation 0.




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[[wikipedia:Memristor|memristors]]
[[wikipedia:Memristor|memristors]]
* memristors as complex networks can mimic biological brains better than transistors  
* memristors as complex networks can mimic biological brains better than transistors  
* they can execute fuzzy logic which is in contrast to boolean logic not fixed between two states
* they can execute fuzzy logic, which in contrast to Boolean logic is not fixed between two states
* they are none-violent memory units even if they work with electric currency because with usage their inner matter changes
* they are non-volatile memory units, even if they run on electricity, because with usage the state of their inner matter changes




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[[wikipedia:Spintronics|nanospintronics]]
[[wikipedia:Spintronics|nanospintronics]]
* higher energy efficiency - no electric current needed, less energy used
* higher energy efficiency - no electric current needed, less energy used
* faster components - no electric charge is transported and thus no thermal problems appears which allows clock speed up to 10,000 GHz
* faster components - no electrical charge is transported and thus no thermal problems appear, which allows clock speed up to 10,000 GHz
* smaller components - e.g. the OR gate (actual iron-atom gate counts approx. 3nm), these kind of components can be smaller than todays semiconductor
* smaller components - e.g. the OR gate (actual iron-atom gate counts approx. 3nm), these kind of components can be smaller than today's semiconductors
* non-volatile memory - '''information doesn't become lost when power is turned off''' because they are stored magnetically (that way also the boot process of computer would become significant faster)
* non-volatile memory - '''information is not lost when power is turned off''' because they store data magnetically (this means the boot process of computers would also become significantly faster)
* and nanospintronics would also allow hybrid components for calculation and memory (these information were adapted from [http://idw-online.de/pages/de/attachmentdata8851.pdf here] [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/139715/OniGalore/RS_T_Sources/attachmentdata8851.pdf (mirror)])
* and nanospintronics would also allow hybrid components for calculation and memory (these information were adapted from [http://idw-online.de/pages/de/attachmentdata8851.pdf here] [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/139715/OniGalore/RS_T_Sources/attachmentdata8851.pdf (mirror)])


That's the point which is especially interessting because of the analogy to biological ''components''. Also biological brains uses one type of ''components'' for two things - the nerons store '''and''' process information.
That's the point which is especially interesting, because of the analogy to biological ''components''. Also, biological brains use one type of ''component'' for two things - the neurons store '''and''' process information.




===Why multiple generations?===
===Why multiple generations?===
To describe an SLD's brain on Oni's timeline at an early time point, this brain would rely on multiple new technologies but so far it seem those will not be available at the same time.
To describe an SLD's brain at an early point on Oni's timeline, this brain would rely on multiple new technologies, but so far it seem that they will not be available at that time.


* memristors are the first-choice components to create an AI brain but they would still "need transistors at the periphery" (src: "[http://www.spektrum.de/inhaltsverzeichnis/spezial-physik-mathematik-technik-3-2013/1169804 Spektrum der Wissenschaft] Spezial Physik - Mathematik - Technik 3/2013", page 57)
* memristors are the first-choice components to create an AI brain, but they would still "need transistors at the periphery" (src: "[http://www.spektrum.de/inhaltsverzeichnis/spezial-physik-mathematik-technik-3-2013/1169804 Spektrum der Wissenschaft] Spezial Physik - Mathematik - Technik 3/2013", page 57)
* at the moment it seems that memristors will hit the market before spintronic-based transistors do, so meanwhile conventional transistors would aid memristors in AIs
* at the moment it seems that memristors will hit the market before spintronic-based transistors do, so meanwhile conventional transistors would aid memristors in AIs
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===Are SLDs alive?===
===Are SLDs alive?===
Let's see at the following points to discuss this topic.
Let's consider the following points in order to discuss this topic.
* "The SLD project is an attempt to recreate human physiology with artificial materials."
* "The SLD project is an attempt to recreate human physiology with artificial materials."
* SLD are classified as androids.
* SLD are classified as androids.
: The TCTF and the Syndicate's language has more weight on the technical side...
: The TCTF's and the Syndicate's language is mostly technical...
:: [[Quotes/Diary#CHAPTER_07_._A_FRIEND_IN_NEED|Konoko]]: "I don't know if they '''programmed''' fear into her but if they didn't she's probably figured it out on her own by now."
:: [[Quotes/Diary#CHAPTER_07_._A_FRIEND_IN_NEED|Konoko]]: "I don't know if they '''programmed''' fear into her but if they didn't she's probably figured it out on her own by now."
:: 08_28_02 Muro: "Curious. Why bother '''programming''' you to feel pain so intensely?"
:: 08_28_02 Muro: "Curious. Why bother '''programming''' you to feel pain so intensely?"
:: 09_31_08 Shinatama: "I am an SLD, an android '''programmed''' with your brain engrams"
:: 09_31_08 Shinatama: "I am an SLD, an android '''programmed''' with your brain engrams"
: ... while The SLD scientists seem also to be more open for psychological aspects.
: ... while the SLD scientists seem to be more inclined to psychological terms.
::"SLDs are '''[[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b|individuals]]''' in many respects."
::"SLDs are '''[[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b|individuals]]''' in many respects."
:: "This core '''personality''' is then given a chance to develop a unique neurolattice while experiencing accelerated streaming sensory feeds."
:: "This core '''personality''' is then given a chance to develop a unique neurolattice while experiencing accelerated streaming sensory feeds."
:: "Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their '''psychological''' womb."
:: "Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their '''psychological''' womb."
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence Emergence] - new properties, behaviors, etc. of a system which the single parts not feature. Also commonly known under the phrase: "more than the sum of its parts". Two examples: gas has a temperature but not the single molecules, a brain has a mind but single neurons don't.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence Emergence] - new properties, behaviors, etc. of a system which its components do not possess. Also commonly known under the phrase: "the whole is more than the sum of its parts". Two examples: gas has a temperature, but not the single molecules; a brain has a mind, but single neurons don't.




If they really '''recreated''' human physiology how can they rule out a new ''emerged'' mind? Why would it be a bare ''simulated'' one? The TCTF was surprised that Shinatama developed an [[Quotes/Consoles/level_18b|own will]].
If they had really '''recreated''' human physiology, how could they rule out a new ''emerged'' mind? Why would it be merely a ''simulated'' one? The TCTF was surprised that Shinatama developed her [[Quotes/Consoles/level_18b|own will]].
: "[...] an unprecedented degree of free will in the android [...]"
: "[...] an unprecedented degree of free will in the android [...]"


Maybe the TCTF argued that a SLD use just "programs" (because the hardware is not biological but artificial) and that programs aren't enough to create a mind. That's a pretty similar thinking to John Searle's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room Chinese Room]. I wonder if a collection of interacting programs can show emergence.
Maybe the TCTF believed that a SLD would simply run on "programs" (because the hardware is not biological but artificial), and that programs aren't enough to create a mind. That's pretty similar thinking to John Searle's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room Chinese Room]. I wonder if a collection of interacting programs can show emergence.




===What's the purpose of SLDs?===
===What's the purpose of SLDs?===
I don't think it's a desirable goal to create an android that can just [[Quotes/Manual#TECH_NOTE_2|feel pain, breath, sweat, and eat]]* and ... ''So you are saying it can produce artificial shit, eh? Is that everything you were able to accomplished after spending our research budget of 100 million dollar?''
I don't think it's a desirable goal to create an android that can just [[Quotes/Manual#TECH_NOTE_2|feel pain, breathe, sweat, and eat]]* and ... ''So you are saying it can produce artificial shit, eh? Is that everything you were able to accomplish after spending our research budget of 100 million dollars?''
Of course the real deal must be something else.
Of course the real deal must be something else.


We have to ask why they didn't imitate another life form. Why not a bacteria, a plant, or an animal?
We have to ask why they didn't imitate another life form. Why not a bacteria, a plant, or an animal?
: Side note: SLD are made of "artificial materials" and "micromechanical fabrication cells" and thus the basis is very unlikely to be DNA.
: Side note: SLD are made of "artificial materials" and "micromechanical fabrication cells" and thus the basis is very unlikely to be DNA.
So the SLD project wasn't about immune systems, metabolisms, and not primarily about somatic functions. What's the big difference between humans and other life forms on earth? In all modesty it seems that the human mind is our biggest and most interesting difference. And it's still a mystery in Oni's story as well as in reality.
So the SLD project wasn't about immune systems, metabolisms, and not primarily about somatic functions. What's the big difference between humans and other life forms on earth? In all modesty, it seems that the human mind is our biggest and most interesting difference. And it's still a mystery in Oni's story as well as in reality.


*SLD scientist: "One thing we [[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b |still cannot do]] is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind."
*SLD scientist: "One thing we [[Quotes/Consoles/level_3b|still cannot do]] is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind."


*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Real_intelligence_vs_simulated_intelligence Turing:] "I do not wish to give the impression that I think there is no mystery about consciousness. There is, for instance, something of a paradox connected with any attempt to localise it."
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Real_intelligence_vs_simulated_intelligence Turing:] "I do not wish to give the impression that I think there is no mystery about consciousness. There is, for instance, something of a paradox connected with any attempt to localise it."


So the solution seems to somewhat (if not entirely) copy an already existing brain.
So the solution seems to be to somewhat (if not entirely) copy an existing brain.


In Oni "brain engrams" gave the SLD androids a mind and that way they could be a tool to study intelligence in an artificial environment.
In Oni, "brain engrams" gave the SLD androids a mind, and that way they could be a tool to study intelligence in an artificial environment.


With the obtained data, the mind doesn't need to become ''reinvented'' but analyzed. After the phase of analysis a true artificial intelligence could be designed.
With the obtained data, the mind doesn't need to get ''reinvented'', but analyzed. After the analysis phase, a true artificial intelligence could be designed.


: Another side note: SLD brain engrams involves coping of brain information and that looks very similar to what is called mind uploading. That again is thought to be an approach to AIs. Ergo, in Oni AIs might be near although the Syndicate developed Deadly Brains. DB would be obsolete if AIs would already exist. (Or maybe AIs are not only much more difficult to construct but much more expensive as well...)
: Another side note: SLD brain engrams involve copying brain information, and that looks very similar to what is called mind uploading. That too is thought to be a means for advancing towards AI. Ergo, in Oni, AI might be close -- although the Syndicate developed Deadly Brains. DBs would be obsolete if AIs already existed. (Or maybe AIs are not only much more difficult to construct, but much more expensive as well...)


However, the abilities* claimed in the manual could be requirements for the SLD brain/mind to work normally because it simply awaits some body functions.
However, the abilities claimed in the manual could be requirements for the SLD brain/mind to work normally because it requires some body functions.
Their food could be raw material for regeneration and a compounds of hydrogen and oxygen from which they can transform chemical energy to electric current. Their sweat then could be pure water from the reaction chemical reaction from inside the fuel cell.
Their food could be raw material for regeneration, and a compound of hydrogen and oxygen may be needed to transform chemical energy to electric current. Their sweat then could be pure water from the chemical reaction from inside the fuel cell.




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At the time of Konoko's ''adventures'', SLD technology seems to be in its final development stage.
At the time of Konoko's ''adventures'', SLD technology seems to be in its final development stage.


Still, SLDs and their way of thinking is not fully understood, that's what Shinatama proof.
Still, SLDs and their way of thinking is not fully understood; that's what Shinatama proves.


This has a logical consequence for a theory in which Mukade is actually Hasegawa with Mukade's brain engrams.
This has a logical consequence for a theory in which Mukade is actually Hasegawa with Mukade's brain engrams.


: When could have the fusion happened? Somewhat after Mukade and Hasegawa met, or later just before Muro took over the Syndicate?
: When could the fusion have happened? Somewhat after Mukade and Hasegawa met, or later, just before Muro took over the Syndicate?


: The later is more plausible and they would have needed one more expert. (Pensatore, SLD scientist.)
: The latter is more plausible, and they would have needed one more expert. (Pensatore, SLD scientist.)


: SLD technology [[SLD#SLDs_are_individuals|draws on brain engrams]] because scientists couldn't create intelligences on their own yet.
: SLD technology [[SLD#SLDs_are_individuals|draws on brain engrams]] because scientists couldn't create intelligence on their own yet.


:: ''One thing we still cannot do is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind.''
:: ''One thing we still cannot do is create an artificial system that adequately simulates the processes of the human mind.''
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:: ''Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their psychological womb.''
:: ''Most SLDs have to spend at least three months in the senseloop, which we have come to think of as their psychological womb.''


: Because of the missing understanding it seems unlikely that they could have implanted Mukade's brain engrams into Hasegawa or vise verca.
: Because of the lack of knowledge, it seems unlikely that they could have implanted Mukade's brain engrams into Hasegawa or vice versa.


: Instead they could have created an SLD from two donor brains, an "ego hybrida". From that on Hasegawa and Kimura (original Mukade) could lean back and use Mukade (the SLD) as an instrument to control/watch Muro.
: Instead, they could have created an SLD from two donor brains, an "ego hybrida". From then on, Hasegawa and Kimura (original Mukade) could sit back and use Mukade (the SLD) as an instrument for controlling/watching Muro.




===Mind upload===
===Mind upload===
When the three maverick came together, on evening it happened that Kimura and Pensatore talked about Shinto and Buddhism. One topic was the human soul and that that Shinto knows multiple mitama can form one souls: [[wikipedia:Mitama|ichirei shikon]] concept. Kimura's Shinobi philosophy was influenced by a small degree. But he mentioned enough to awake Pensatore's interest. He felt that there were similarities with the meme theory.
When the three mavericks got together one evening, it happened that Kimura and Pensatore talked about Shinto and Buddhism. One topic was the human soul, and that Shinto believes that multiple ''mitama'' can form one soul: the concept of [[wikipedia:Mitama|ichirei shikon]]. Kimura's Shinobi philosophy was influenced by this to a small degree. But he mentioned enough to awake Pensatore's interest. He felt that there were similarities with the meme theory.
Pensatore entered a new path. From that time on he understood the brain as a collection of memes running on biological hardware. His new goal was to create a digital mind that could run not in a robot brain but on common servers. Eventually he uploaded his own mind.
Pensatore embarked on a new path. From that time on, he understood the brain as a collection of memes running on biological hardware. His new goal was to create a digital mind that would run not in a robot brain, but on common servers. Eventually he uploaded his own mind.




===Shinatama's escape===
===Shinatama's escape===
[...] Shintama could have uploaded her mind to the internet with the help of Pensatore. I guess this can continue with [[Shinatama#Hikari|Owldreamer's stuff]].
[...] Shintama could have uploaded her mind to the Internet with the help of Pensatore. I guess this can continue with [[Shinatama#Hikari|Owldreamer's stuff]].




==Shields==
==Shields==
Oni offers only two lines about its [[Quotes/Items#shield|shield technology]]. The item description says also "force shield" which is maybe an inappropriate term
Oni offers only two lines about its [[Quotes/Items#shield|shield technology]]. The item description says also "force shield", which might be an inappropriate term, because:
* because the force shield is visible to the naked eye,
* the force shield is visible to the naked eye,
* ''pieces'' can break away when a bullet hits it,
* ''pieces'' can break away when a bullet hits it,
* magnetic/electric fields couldn't protect its user against non-magnetic/non-inducting materials,
* magnetic/electric fields couldn't protect its user against non-magnetic/non-inducting materials,
* and magnetic and electric fields aren't ''blocky''.
* and magnetic and electric fields aren't ''blocky''.


So the thought strokes one to think about a different background.
So this thought leads one to think about a different technological basis.


Side note: most of mentioned flaws can be explained by gameplay aspects again and the hardware/software limits during Oni's creation. However, I don't want those to be an "excuse" for not developing the fiction any further.
Side note: most of the mentioned flaws can again be explained by gameplay aspects and hardware/software limitations during Oni's creation. However, I don't want those to be an "excuse" for not developing the fiction any further.




===Atmospheric shields===
===Atmospheric shields===
Let's start with another question: [[Atmospheric_Conversion_Center|Atmospheric Conversion Centers]] clean air for cities but what would keep the clean air inside and the toxins outside the cities?
Let's start with another question: [[Atmospheric_Conversion_Center|Atmospheric Conversion Centers]] clean air for cities, but what would keep the clean air inside and the toxins outside the cities?


[http://phys.org/news/2012-01-graphene-supermaterial-superpermeable.html Graphene oxide] is known to be impermeable to everything except for water (and maybe hydrogen). Graphene has a so tight structure that almost nothing fits between its atoms. It's also pretty transparent which would let sunlight still reach the interior of our hypothetical shield.
[http://phys.org/news/2012-01-graphene-supermaterial-superpermeable.html Graphene oxide] is known to be impermeable to everything except water (and maybe hydrogen). Graphene has so tight of a structure that almost nothing fits between its atoms. It's also pretty transparent, which would let sunlight still reach the interior of our hypothetical shield.


Other graphene layers attached to the first one could align the material along a magnetic field. Pure graphene isn't magnetic but doping and defects can change properties of graphene in many ways.
Other graphene layers attached to the first one could align the material along a magnetic field. Pure graphene isn't magnetic, but doping and defects can change the properties of graphene in many ways.


What if the shield gets damaged? Ways of self-assembly and [http://phys.org/news/2012-10-scientists-defects-materials.html self-healing] gets currently explored and could be probably of some help.
What if the shield gets damaged? Methods of self-assembly and [http://phys.org/news/2012-10-scientists-defects-materials.html self-healing] are currently being explored and could probably be of some help.


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