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:There is already a suspicion that the Ukraine is not supposed to win. The stab-in-the-back myth was to be heard from Johannes Hano in ZDF when he quote Ukrainians "What the hell is the West waiting for?" On the quiet Ukrainians start to think that the West, especially Germany, doesn't deliver enough weapons on purpose so Putin can have the Donbas as face-saving minimum goal. In scope of that myth this would go hand in hand with Scholz' and Macron's warning that Putin shall not be humiliated.
:There is already a suspicion that the Ukraine is not supposed to win. The stab-in-the-back myth was to be heard from Johannes Hano in ZDF when he quote Ukrainians "What the hell is the West waiting for?" On the quiet Ukrainians start to think that the West, especially Germany, doesn't deliver enough weapons on purpose so Putin can have the Donbas as face-saving minimum goal. In scope of that myth this would go hand in hand with Scholz' and Macron's warning that Putin shall not be humiliated.


:Scholz also repeatedly said: "The Ukraine must not lose." He doesn't say "has to win". That is a difference, not nitpicking. (Baerbock actually said "win" but as Scholz has the last word this doesn't count.) There are intermediate stages between lose and win if "to lose" means a complete takeover or destruction.
:Scholz also repeatedly said: "The Ukraine must not lose." He doesn't say "has to win". That is a difference, not nitpicking. (Baerbock actually said "win" but as Scholz has the last word, so this doesn't count.) There are intermediate stages between lose and win if "to lose" means a complete takeover or destruction.


:The suspicion is strengthened by the official position of USA and the Baltic states that Russia is meant to be weakened so that it cannot start a new war for a very long time.
:The suspicion is strengthened by the official position of USA and the Baltic states that Russia is meant to be weakened so that it cannot start a new war for a very long time.
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:Meanwhile opposition leader Merz asked Scholz whether he has "a second agenda [people don't know about]."
:Meanwhile opposition leader Merz asked Scholz whether he has "a second agenda [people don't know about]."


:Also, Habeck and Scholz ''admitted'' that Germany is not "doing everything possible" to help the Ukraine. These words could kinda go down the wrong pipe if ripped out of context. They said so because they want to prevent a war between Russia and NATO and therefore the risk of nuclear holocaust.
:Also, Habeck and Scholz ''admitted'' that Germany is "not doing everything possible" to help the Ukraine. These words could kinda go down the wrong pipe if ripped out of context. They said so because they want to prevent a war between Russia and NATO and therefore the risk of nuclear holocaust.


:The belated but eventual delivery of heavy weapons could be interpreted by the Ukrainians as "correction" to keep up the equilibrium so that the war keeps raging until both countries are mentally and physically exhausted.  
:The belated but eventual delivery of heavy weapons could be interpreted by the Ukrainians as "correction" to keep up the equilibrium so that the war keeps raging until both countries are mentally and physically exhausted.  
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