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 :::::::Try searching for a sentence from those pages and you will see (I think it's just that "User:" and "User_talk:" are not search-indexed in general). It's totally OK if you don't care about the public visibility of those pages. It's just that I had the same semi-private attitude about this TNZ page in its current form -- my explanation thereof wasn't good enough to prevent a hasty cat from you, and that's fine too, I guess. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:46, 12 June 2020 (CEST)
 ::::::::Apologies for any miscommunication we seem to have had. My assumption was that anything placed in a main namespace such as Oni2: was fodder for public commentary, and anything under User: was private ramblings, unless otherwise labeled. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 16:27, 12 June 2020 (CEST)
+===City populations===
+:''"Oni speaks of 417 regional facilities, which roughly corresponds to the number of modern cities with populations above 1 million."''
+Not a terribly important point, but while thinking about the ACCs today, I was interested enough to look up city populations. Going by [https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic-social/products/dyb/dyb_2021/ this page] – see Population > Table 8 – it seems that it's more like 200 cities with 1 million+ people; if you drop down to #400 on the list, the cities have 500,000-600,000 people. So hypothetically even mid-sized cities could be covered by ACCs. But a key question is whether a sprawling metropolis such as Beijing or NYC could get by on one ACC or if it would need a dozen of them, or even more. Obviously there's no indication of how much air an ACC can 'suck in, treat, then belch back out', so it's really up to us. If it takes one ACC to produce breathable air for every one million people then that's a problem for the mid-sized cities, because the top 130 cities cumulatively hold around 417 million people. In that case, there's no ACCs left over for a city with 1.3 million people or less – sorry, [[Bungie West|San Jose]], you don't quite make the cut. In the smaller cities I guess everyone has to [[:Image:TXMPPOSTER4.png|wear a cumbersome mask]] to work/school and back (buildings could have heavily-filtered air systems), and outdoor life is basically unenjoyable/nonexistent. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 01:47, 7 April 2023 (CEST)
+Of course, all these numbers are based on "present day, present time" and it's hard to say if Oni's world of 2032 would have the same city distribution and density. It also assumes ACCs are standardized units of the same size and capability, which we don't know to be the case. Perhaps giant ACCs are built for the largest cities, challenging how much information we can derive from the simple number "417". While it's true that the physics of air flow would naturally limit the area of effect of a facility that emits clean air from all sides, it's also possible that extensive pipes could be carrying the output of a gigantic ACC across a large city. However the pipes would need to be bi-directional: one channel would suck in the air that's to be treated and the other channel would belch it back out. This is still probably cheaper than building many smaller ACCs throughout a city. My pet theory is that the ACCs are underground (at least, the one in Oni), so the only visible space an ACC takes up in the city could be the massive pipeline carrying air to and fro. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 01:47, 7 April 2023 (CEST)
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