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======Party: Bündnis 90/Die Grünen======
======Party: Bündnis 90/Die Grünen======
''The green and anti-nuclear party.'' (They combined ''traditional'' Greens, old civil rights activists, (former [[wp:Pacifism#Absolute_pacifism|absolute]]) pacifists, well-off intellectuals, new left and pool of minorities.)
''The green and anti-nuclear party.'' (They combined ''traditional'' Greens, old civil rights activists, (former [[wp:Pacifism#Absolute_pacifism|absolute]]) pacifists, well-off intellectuals, new left and pool of minorities.)
General notes:
* On average, the Greens were '''perceived as hypermoralists with no strong sense for social topics'''. (Hypercompensation and trying to outflank the SPD on the left is not a real solution either: Issue ownership and getting labeled as ideologists.)
* As migration as topic boiled up, the [https://archive.is/rCjVm use of genetic engineering] won't get much attention and will damaged them less than possible. It is no longer scientifically tenable to reject it. Only potential threats from patents should be discussed and possibly managed by laws. The Greens should use the extra time to rethink their position.
Notes on recent events:
* During Bundestagswahl 2021 potential new voters were not afraid of their '''core program''' but the '''new ideological-tinted topics''' and Greens' '''missing experience''', and '''not doing enough Realpolitik'''.<!--In einer Talkshow des ÖRR erklärte mal eine SPD-Politikerin, dass die grünen Spitzen darüber nachgedacht hatten die drei AKWs nicht abzuschalten. Man entschied sich aus Angst vor der Wählerschaft dagegen. Zu viel Kröten waren zuvor geschluckt worden: LNG-Terminals, Wiederhochfahren der Kohlekraftwerke, Waffenlieferungen, usw.
* During Bundestagswahl 2021 potential new voters were not afraid of their '''core program''' but the '''new ideological-tinted topics''' and Greens' '''missing experience''', and '''not doing enough Realpolitik'''.<!--In einer Talkshow des ÖRR erklärte mal eine SPD-Politikerin, dass die grünen Spitzen darüber nachgedacht hatten die drei AKWs nicht abzuschalten. Man entschied sich aus Angst vor der Wählerschaft dagegen. Zu viel Kröten waren zuvor geschluckt worden: LNG-Terminals, Wiederhochfahren der Kohlekraftwerke, Waffenlieferungen, usw.
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* During 2023 the Greens were attacked for the "Heizungsgesetz". It was a lesson for them that politics is no pony farm. Meanwhile, the right-wing conservatives (FDP and CxU) and their media reacted indignant that their own smear campaign turned out to be a boomerrang - because it didn't provide any solution but pure fearmongering - which strengthened only the even more right competition AfD. '''The anti-green campaign damaged the party substantially.'''<!-- Die Selbstverteidigung der Grünen war erbärmlich. Anstatt die Sachen energisch richtigzustellen, hat man sich einfach Butter vom Brot nehmen lassen. Und wirklich aufgearbeitet wurde die Kampagne auch nicht.-->
* During 2023 the Greens were attacked for the "Heizungsgesetz". It was a lesson for them that politics is no pony farm. Meanwhile, the right-wing conservatives (FDP and CxU) and their media reacted indignant that their own smear campaign turned out to be a boomerrang - because it didn't provide any solution but pure fearmongering - which strengthened only the even more right competition AfD. '''The anti-green campaign damaged the party substantially.'''<!-- Die Selbstverteidigung der Grünen war erbärmlich. Anstatt die Sachen energisch richtigzustellen, hat man sich einfach Butter vom Brot nehmen lassen. Und wirklich aufgearbeitet wurde die Kampagne auch nicht.-->


On average, the Greens were '''perceived as hypermoralists with no strong sense for social topics'''. (Hypercompensation and trying to outflank the SPD on the left is not a real solution either: Issue ownership and getting labeled as ideologists.)
* '''The "Last Generation" brought the Greens constant negative publicity.''' Political opponents of the ''elbowless'' Greens couldn't have asked for a better Trojan horse. (Urban Priol described it as "The Greens need an own Wehrbeauftragten.")
 
'''The "Last Generation" brought them constant negative publicity.''' Political opponents of the ''elbowless'' Greens couldn't have asked for a better Trojan horse. (Urban Priol coined later: "The Greens need an own Wehrbeauftragten.")


As migration as topic boiled up, the [https://archive.is/rCjVm use of genetic engineering] won't get much attention and will damaged them less than possible. It is no longer scientifically tenable to reject it. Only potential threats from patents should be discussed and possibly managed by laws. The Greens should use the extra time to rethink their position.
* After the 2026 election in Baden-Württemberg, the Greens have an opportunity to somewhat repair their image. '''But if Özdemir were to distance himself from Palmer, his election would be perceived as a case of false labeling.''' In that sense, he should ignore the Green Youth. '''The Greens in Baden-Württemberg are simply their own species.''' Nouripour expressed a general openness to a more conservative course in Baden-Württemberg: "We don't have to sound the same everywhere. Different federal states, social milieus, and living realities can also accommodate different tones and priorities." (Although, that was almost overfluent: Former minister president Winfried Kretschmann was known to be a "black (conservative) Green" anyway.) More interestingly Nouripour added: [https://www.zdfheute.de/politik/deutschland/gruene-oezdemir-baden-wuerttemberg-palmer-wahl-100.html Such new course might even serve as a blueprint] for becoming electable by a majority again in general.<!--Nothing wrong with trying something new...--><!--Ein Mix aus Lob und unterschwelliger Kritik gab es Ulf Poschardt. Kurz: Es war Wahlkampf. Die CDU versuchte später auf die Tränendrüse zu drücken. Würde man die Schmutzkampagnen von 2023 und 2026 vergleichen, wäre das Ergebnis, dass die der Grünen ohne Unterstellungen und Angst auskam. Auch war 2023 eine ganz andere Größenordnung.-->


=====The non-voters=====
=====The non-voters=====
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