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::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:44, 30 November 2006 (CET) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:44, 30 November 2006 (CET) | ||
:As for how "pain is a big inconvenient for a resilient body"... Precisely. | :As for how "pain is a big inconvenient for a resilient body"... Precisely. | ||
:Either you reject the whole idea that the [[Daodan#Added value]] is an autoevolutionary upgrade. | :Either you reject the whole idea that the [[Daodan#Added value|Daodan]] is an autoevolutionary upgrade. | ||
:Or you have to tell me what kind of sadomasochistic upgrade that is : | :Or you have to tell me what kind of sadomasochistic upgrade that is : | ||
::making you resilient and not keeping the pain in proportion with your body's limits. | ::making you resilient and not keeping the pain in proportion with your body's limits. | ||
:"we are not referring to torture"? Are you ''sure''? Take a look at what you have... | :"we are not referring to torture"? Are you ''sure''? Take a look at what you have... | ||
:You want Konoko to experience | :You want Konoko to experience dramatic pain because of nowhere-near-lethal stress. Fact. | ||
:Doesn't that mean "generating the highest amount of pain with the lowest level of physical stress"? | :Doesn't that mean "generating the highest amount of pain with the lowest level of physical stress"? | ||
:So, looks like your Daodan is balancing on the verge of both sadism and masochism (auto-torture). | :So, looks like your Daodan is balancing on the verge of both sadism and masochism (auto-torture). | ||
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:Think about it : does the Daodan ''really'' have to stigmatize itself? | :Think about it : does the Daodan ''really'' have to stigmatize itself? | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 13:47, 1 December 2006 (CET) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 13:47, 1 December 2006 (CET) | ||
:Another thought : could we be talking about [[Shinatama]] rather than Mai? | |||
:The relationship with pain you suggest for Mai is IMO pretty close to [[Shinatama#Pain and Death|THIS]]... | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:02, 1 December 2006 (CET) | |||