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"A storyline for Oni 2" was a brainstorming thread on the Oni Central Forum that ran from April 2005 to May 2006. It is summarized by topic below. A lower-level summary, by individual post, can be found here: [[/PostSummary1|Part 1]] – [[/PostSummary2|Part 2]]. | |||
The original thread could be found at <nowiki>http://konokoffin.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9</nowiki> at one time, but the archive for the Infinite Core era of OCF is now down, so that link is now a 404. [http://web.archive.org/web/20070226155159/http://oni.bungie.org/forums/index.php?threadid=9 Here's] an archived version that may work. | |||
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==The World== | ==The World== | ||
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*WCG of Oni 2 will be less about oppression and more about propaganda. (Nyctasia) | *WCG of Oni 2 will be less about oppression and more about propaganda. (Nyctasia) | ||
*WCG has to join forces with the Syndicate to save humanity. (Gatkowski) | *WCG has to join forces with the Syndicate to save humanity. (Gatkowski) | ||
===Syndicate=== | ===Syndicate=== | ||
*One of the main advantages in the Syndicate is that they are not bound by the legal restrictions that the TCTF have, so they can develop new tech more quickly (such as adult SLDs). TCTF didn't try to take down Syndicate simply because they were afraid the Syndicate was stronger. (TNT) | *One of the main advantages in the Syndicate is that they are not bound by the legal restrictions that the TCTF have, so they can develop new tech more quickly (such as adult SLDs). TCTF didn't try to take down Syndicate simply because they were afraid the Syndicate was stronger. (TNT) | ||
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*Syndicate has the most power outside the cities, but they are in the cities too. Symbiotes living in settlements got their Chrysalises (inferior to Mai's) from Syndicate. (typhen) | *Syndicate has the most power outside the cities, but they are in the cities too. Symbiotes living in settlements got their Chrysalises (inferior to Mai's) from Syndicate. (typhen) | ||
*Syndicate only gave Chrysalises to a few key people. (geyser) | *Syndicate only gave Chrysalises to a few key people. (geyser) | ||
===META=== | ===META=== | ||
*A "technological mega-consortium run by the Syndicate++ state. It makes everything from weapons to vehicles to droids/SLDs/mechas/cyborgs(/Daodans?)". Mukade-Hasegawa (see Mukade=Hasegawa theory under "Hasegawa" section) runs META as a way to control and guide humanity through the ecological cataclysm and into a perfect, harmonious state. Over time, some of META's head people may suspect that they are being used for an ulterior motive by Hasegawa, or may have their own motivations. META may seek to recruit Mai. (geyser) | |||
*META is more of an emergency alliance between groups with a common interest, unconnected to the Syndicate and WCG. META thinks that technology is the answer to all our problems. They trust blindly in rapid innovation. Their devices are built hastily and are amazing but unreliable. (guido) | |||
*META's devices are so advanced as to be almost alien in nature; in fact, they may be the product of alien influence on Hasegawa. They may also be designed for use by people who are superhuman, like Mai. (geyser) | |||
===Phoenix=== | ===Phoenix=== | ||
*A rebel group fighting against | *A rebel group fighting against META's centralized control of the world; they are opposed to the use of the Chrysalis, seeing it as a tool of META's control. They take in Mai without knowing who she is, then become divided over whether to continue using her when they learn she is a symbiote and the cause of the Cataclysm. Some of the rebels may be able to forgive her, some will be willing to keep using her as a tool, and some may consider her an enemy. Phoenix's methods may be ethically gray, including killing people who know too much about their operations. (geyser) | ||
*Phoenix may have been founded by Mukade himself (this is an extension of the Master Plan theory under the "Hasegawa" section), as a means of controlling the opposition, or to gain more power for himself through planned escalation. (Last_Hero, Your_Mom) | *Phoenix may have been founded by Mukade himself (this is an extension of the Master Plan theory under the "Hasegawa" section), as a means of controlling the opposition, or to gain more power for himself through planned escalation. (Last_Hero, Your_Mom) | ||
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*The Daodan's effect on the host is not as harmless as Kerr posited. Note how Konoko becomes more violent when overpowered; another "nature" is replacing hers. This leads to a schizophrenia of sorts as the Daodan wages a battle for the host's mind, a contest of wills. Rather than taking a final form, an Imago host is always evolving in response to current conditions, and the battle of willpower is thus also never-ending. A host who resists the Daodan's influence may learn to communicate with it mentally. A host who loses the battle becomes like Mutant Muro. As the host develops in a direction away from normal humanity, not having the same biological needs, they become distanced from their old self and from others. Symbiotes are unable to co-exist peacefully. (geyser) | *The Daodan's effect on the host is not as harmless as Kerr posited. Note how Konoko becomes more violent when overpowered; another "nature" is replacing hers. This leads to a schizophrenia of sorts as the Daodan wages a battle for the host's mind, a contest of wills. Rather than taking a final form, an Imago host is always evolving in response to current conditions, and the battle of willpower is thus also never-ending. A host who resists the Daodan's influence may learn to communicate with it mentally. A host who loses the battle becomes like Mutant Muro. As the host develops in a direction away from normal humanity, not having the same biological needs, they become distanced from their old self and from others. Symbiotes are unable to co-exist peacefully. (geyser) | ||
*The Imago form might be a temporary shape, short-lived like a butterfly. In the end, having replaced all the host's cells, the Daodan may consume itself. However, it will leave behind a seed, in the form of a reborn host, upgraded by the Daodan but who no longer has a Chrysalis inside them. While the host cannot stop the process, they can choose what path to follow as they develop. (guido) | *The Imago form might be a temporary shape, short-lived like a butterfly. In the end, having replaced all the host's cells, the Daodan may consume itself. However, it will leave behind a seed, in the form of a reborn host, upgraded by the Daodan but who no longer has a Chrysalis inside them. While the host cannot stop the process, they can choose what path to follow as they develop. (guido) | ||
====Purpose==== | ====Purpose==== | ||
*Perhaps the Daodan was developed by an immortal and immaterial alien race that wants to direct our evolution for their own purposes. These aliens could be the "Oni" of the game's title, and may be what becomes visible during a Daodan overpower state, as they are actively guiding the Daodan's development. It's also possible that the Daodan (or the Oni) are affecting people's minds. Their purpose might be benevolent towards us, or only serve their own purposes. The goal may be to find ones who are strong enough to resist the Daodan, perhaps to advance humanity to a higher level. (geyser) | *Perhaps the Daodan was developed by an immortal and immaterial alien race that wants to direct our evolution for their own purposes. These aliens could be the "Oni" of the game's title, and may be what becomes visible during a Daodan overpower state, as they are actively guiding the Daodan's development. It's also possible that the Daodan (or the Oni) are affecting people's minds. Their purpose might be benevolent towards us, or only serve their own purposes. The goal may be to find ones who are strong enough to resist the Daodan, perhaps to advance humanity to a higher level. (geyser) | ||
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*The beings behind the Daodan are using it to create human ambassadors, to serve as a bridge between their immaterial world and ours. Perhaps there's a threat to their existence which is rooted in the physical world, so they need our help. (Seraf Ethifeo) | *The beings behind the Daodan are using it to create human ambassadors, to serve as a bridge between their immaterial world and ours. Perhaps there's a threat to their existence which is rooted in the physical world, so they need our help. (Seraf Ethifeo) | ||
*The Daodan Chrysalis allows its alien creators to inhabit a physical body. To promote its use, they caused the BioCrisis and the Cataclysm of 12/3. (caddy) | *The Daodan Chrysalis allows its alien creators to inhabit a physical body. To promote its use, they caused the BioCrisis and the Cataclysm of 12/3. (caddy) | ||
====Use==== | ====Use==== | ||
*The Daodan needs a certain amount of time to learn about its host before it can safely transform. Muro rushes the transformation and becomes monstrous (and unstable) as a result. Reproduction of the host may be asexual, taking place by "budding". (geyser) | *The Daodan needs a certain amount of time to learn about its host before it can safely transform. Muro rushes the transformation and becomes monstrous (and unstable) as a result. Reproduction of the host may be asexual, taking place by "budding". (geyser) | ||
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*The Daodan and its host may be able to exist in a pre-Imago equilibrium if the host continues to fight mentally against being replaced totally. (guido) | *The Daodan and its host may be able to exist in a pre-Imago equilibrium if the host continues to fight mentally against being replaced totally. (guido) | ||
*Daodan transformations are reversible and can serve as the overpower mode in the next game. (Kumo, geyser) | *Daodan transformations are reversible and can serve as the overpower mode in the next game. (Kumo, geyser) | ||
*Society is opposed to the use of the Chrysalis, and the government is investigating the Daodan's nature. | *Society is opposed to the use of the Chrysalis, and the government is investigating the Daodan's nature. META may be producing Chrysalises. (geyser) | ||
*The WCG/TCTF is experimenting with putting the Chrysalis in its police officers. Only gradually are its dangers becoming known. (Kumo) | *The WCG/TCTF is experimenting with putting the Chrysalis in its police officers. Only gradually are its dangers becoming known. (Kumo) | ||
*Hypos | *Hypos contain sedatives; as these sedatives affect the mind, they weaken one's willpower. In a Daodan symbiote, whose will is fighting with the will of the Chrysalis, this allows the Chrysalis to temporarily increase its control over the host, causing the overpower effect seen in Oni. (TNT) | ||
===Screaming Cells=== | ===Screaming Cells=== | ||
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*After 20 years, some ACCs have been repaired, but some people also live outside the cities in settlements, using Chrysalises. These Chrysalises are made by the Syndicate and inferior to Mai's. Normal humans can venture outside in suits for a limited time, which are manufactured and controlled by the TCTF. (typhen) | *After 20 years, some ACCs have been repaired, but some people also live outside the cities in settlements, using Chrysalises. These Chrysalises are made by the Syndicate and inferior to Mai's. Normal humans can venture outside in suits for a limited time, which are manufactured and controlled by the TCTF. (typhen) | ||
*The pollution may be caused by the beings who made the Daodan, in order to promote its use as a Chrysalis. Konoko's and Muro's destruction of the ACCs may have been the result of the influence of their Chrysalises, to prevent mankind from solving the pollution issue without using the Daodan. (caddy) | *The pollution may be caused by the beings who made the Daodan, in order to promote its use as a Chrysalis. Konoko's and Muro's destruction of the ACCs may have been the result of the influence of their Chrysalises, to prevent mankind from solving the pollution issue without using the Daodan. (caddy) | ||
==Themes== | ==Themes== | ||
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*Humans have acted like a cancer that depletes the resources of the body (the planet). The Daodan Chrysalis represents a benevolent cancer that will change our attitude to one of living in harmony with nature. (TheTurnipKing) | *Humans have acted like a cancer that depletes the resources of the body (the planet). The Daodan Chrysalis represents a benevolent cancer that will change our attitude to one of living in harmony with nature. (TheTurnipKing) | ||
*Details of character and world should be kept on the side, in consoles. Some darkness is okay, but story should overall remain light, with humor. The story may contain multiple red herrings or dead-ends, leaving the ultimate truth up to the player (or at least revealing it only at the end). Can also touch on "government and rebellion, friendship and betrayal, mercy and vengeance, insanity and kinslaying, questionable humanity (androids, cyborgs, clones, symbiotes [referring to the Chrysalis replacing the mind of the host]), non-human intelligence [the Oni], [and] grand design [referring to the Oni guiding our evolution through the Chrysalis]". (geyser) | *Details of character and world should be kept on the side, in consoles. Some darkness is okay, but story should overall remain light, with humor. The story may contain multiple red herrings or dead-ends, leaving the ultimate truth up to the player (or at least revealing it only at the end). Can also touch on "government and rebellion, friendship and betrayal, mercy and vengeance, insanity and kinslaying, questionable humanity (androids, cyborgs, clones, symbiotes [referring to the Chrysalis replacing the mind of the host]), non-human intelligence [the Oni], [and] grand design [referring to the Oni guiding our evolution through the Chrysalis]". (geyser) | ||
*One focus can be on Mai's mental struggle to remain human despite the advances of the Daodan Chrysalis. It might be that the purpose of the Chrysalis is to separate the strong-minded (Mai, Mukade) from the weak-minded (Muro) by requiring continual mental resistance to prevent a transformation. These selected few may be intended to communicate with the Oni that made the Daodan, or to avert some threat to mankind. Mai's mental struggle may be depicted in her mind's eye by visitations from Muro, who challenges her and represents the course she wants to avoid; he may actually be the means the Daodan uses to speak with Mai. The endless resistance to becoming Imago, the rejection of a "final form" imposed by the Daodan, represents a ''wabi-sabi''esque acceptance of imperfection: embracing human frailty as a strength, and continually evolving in response to new situations (i.e., life, as opposed to death by stagnation). This contrast also is seen in | *One focus can be on Mai's mental struggle to remain human despite the advances of the Daodan Chrysalis. It might be that the purpose of the Chrysalis is to separate the strong-minded (Mai, Mukade) from the weak-minded (Muro) by requiring continual mental resistance to prevent a transformation. These selected few may be intended to communicate with the Oni that made the Daodan, or to avert some threat to mankind. Mai's mental struggle may be depicted in her mind's eye by visitations from Muro, who challenges her and represents the course she wants to avoid; he may actually be the means the Daodan uses to speak with Mai. The endless resistance to becoming Imago, the rejection of a "final form" imposed by the Daodan, represents a ''wabi-sabi''esque acceptance of imperfection: embracing human frailty as a strength, and continually evolving in response to new situations (i.e., life, as opposed to death by stagnation). This contrast also is seen in META's attempt to make humanity perfect, and the rebels who fight against an imposed stasis. (geyser) | ||
*The misuse of the Chrysalis can also represent Pandora's Box, a force for good or evil. When the evils escaped from Pandora's Box, Hope was left in the bottom. In some interpretations, Hope was actually an evil because it vainly encouraged man to think he could change the future for the better. Thus the Daodan may or may not represent a path to a better future, and its intended use by its original creators may not be the best use from humanity's perspective. Mai may become skeptical of the Daodan's benefits, in contrast to a scientist who embraces the Daodan uncritically and may be endangering humanity as a result. (geyser) | *The misuse of the Chrysalis can also represent Pandora's Box, a force for good or evil. When the evils escaped from Pandora's Box, Hope was left in the bottom. In some interpretations, Hope was actually an evil because it vainly encouraged man to think he could change the future for the better. Thus the Daodan may or may not represent a path to a better future, and its intended use by its original creators may not be the best use from humanity's perspective. Mai may become skeptical of the Daodan's benefits, in contrast to a scientist who embraces the Daodan uncritically and may be endangering humanity as a result. (geyser) | ||
*Another focus can be a repetition of the themes from Oni 1: a nameless heroine without a past (this time due to amnesia caused by her inner struggle with guilt and the Daodan); an authoritarian government (this time, the Syndicate or | *Another focus can be a repetition of the themes from Oni 1: a nameless heroine without a past (this time due to amnesia caused by her inner struggle with guilt and the Daodan); an authoritarian government (this time, the Syndicate or META); a struggle between two communities (this time rebels who hate the Daodan, and META which is developing it), one of which adopts Mai (perhaps simply to use her as a weapon); Mai developing superhuman abilities while discovering her identity; a shadowy community of enemies; Mai's community rejecting her out of fear of her powers; an enemy mastermind who is somehow connected to Mai; and marginalized individuals who can help Mai find her identity. (geyser) | ||
*Instead of remaining human, Mai may gradually become less human. This would be in contrast to the numerous stories which depict artificial people wanting to become more human. (geyser) | *Instead of remaining human, Mai may gradually become less human. This would be in contrast to the numerous stories which depict artificial people wanting to become more human. (geyser) | ||
*The world is increasingly thrown into chaos by the Chrysalis as government and environment deteriorate. A lone, charismatic individual survives the destruction to bring about a new order. Daodan hosts who master their fears and maintain an internal equilibrium can overcome the influence of the Chrysalis and remain in control, perhaps guiding its development. The state of the external world (martial law, breakdown of society, etc.) mirrors Mai's inner struggle against the Daodan. Eventually the host becomes something entirely different, but still beautiful, like a flower becoming a fruit. The discarded seeds of the fruit may be the reborn Daodan host. (guido) | *The world is increasingly thrown into chaos by the Chrysalis as government and environment deteriorate. A lone, charismatic individual survives the destruction to bring about a new order. Daodan hosts who master their fears and maintain an internal equilibrium can overcome the influence of the Chrysalis and remain in control, perhaps guiding its development. The state of the external world (martial law, breakdown of society, etc.) mirrors Mai's inner struggle against the Daodan. Eventually the host becomes something entirely different, but still beautiful, like a flower becoming a fruit. The discarded seeds of the fruit may be the reborn Daodan host. (guido) | ||
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*Mall closed for the night. (geyser) | *Mall closed for the night. (geyser) | ||
*Natural settings with grass and trees. (geyser) | *Natural settings with grass and trees. (geyser) | ||
*Rooftops fit for a chase sequence, with | *Rooftops fit for a chase sequence, with META patrols to dodge. (geyser) | ||
*Half-ruined cities with toxic rain. (guido) | *Half-ruined cities with toxic rain. (guido) | ||
*Secret installations. (guido) | *Secret installations. (guido) | ||
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*Mai does not feel overwhelming guilt over the Cataclysm because she knows her actions saved more people than would have survived Muro's plan. She could not have fixed the ACCs because Muro permanently modified them. She is willing to take the hate of the world on her shoulders. (Gatkowski) | *Mai does not feel overwhelming guilt over the Cataclysm because she knows her actions saved more people than would have survived Muro's plan. She could not have fixed the ACCs because Muro permanently modified them. She is willing to take the hate of the world on her shoulders. (Gatkowski) | ||
*Mai needs to learn to trust others, perhaps including her father and Mukade. (guido) | *Mai needs to learn to trust others, perhaps including her father and Mukade. (guido) | ||
*Mai might be used by others at first (last time it was TCTF, this time it's Phoenix), and gradually learns the truth of the situation, perhaps leading to her defection from the group when she realizes she doesn't agree with their methods. She may also infiltrate | *Mai might be used by others at first (last time it was TCTF, this time it's Phoenix), and gradually learns the truth of the situation, perhaps leading to her defection from the group when she realizes she doesn't agree with their methods. She may also infiltrate META Industries. (geyser) | ||
*Mai is now wiser and more skeptical about the Chrysalis. She may fight against its introduction to the populace. (geyser) | *Mai is now wiser and more skeptical about the Chrysalis. She may fight against its introduction to the populace. (geyser) | ||
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*Hasegawa created the Daodan Chrysalis suspiciously fast. He may have been under alien influence. We can't necessarily take his diary at face value as far as why Jamie died, and whether he really started his work after that point. (geyser) | *Hasegawa created the Daodan Chrysalis suspiciously fast. He may have been under alien influence. We can't necessarily take his diary at face value as far as why Jamie died, and whether he really started his work after that point. (geyser) | ||
*Hasegawa was wrong when he predicted (or claimed to believe) that a Cataclysm was coming, as the ACCs still had things under control until Konoko blew them up years later. Perhaps this was a false justification? Hasegawa's work was awfully broad-ranging for a simple "pollution cure". Resentment over Jamie's death may have played a factor in the anti-establishment consequences of the Chrysalis. (geyser) | *Hasegawa was wrong when he predicted (or claimed to believe) that a Cataclysm was coming, as the ACCs still had things under control until Konoko blew them up years later. Perhaps this was a false justification? Hasegawa's work was awfully broad-ranging for a simple "pollution cure". Resentment over Jamie's death may have played a factor in the anti-establishment consequences of the Chrysalis. (geyser) | ||
*The ACCs may in fact have been on the verge of being overloaded by the pollution (as implied in [[Quotes/Consoles#BioCrisis|this console]]) Hasegawa and Kerr's research may seem too dangerous or far-reaching to be justifiable, but they were led by their grief over Jamie at the time. (TNT, Laughing_Man_Ra) | *The ACCs may in fact have been on the verge of being overloaded by the pollution (as implied in [[Quotes/Consoles#BioCrisis|this console]]). Hasegawa and Kerr's research may seem too dangerous or far-reaching to be justifiable, but they were led by their grief over Jamie at the time. (TNT, Laughing_Man_Ra) | ||
*The Master Plan theory (dependent on the Mukade=Hasegawa theory) is that Hasegawa should have foreseen that the Syndicate would not leave | *The Master Plan theory (dependent on the Mukade=Hasegawa theory) is that Hasegawa should have foreseen that the Syndicate would not leave him and Kerr alone once the abilities of the Chrysalis became clear. That may have been part of his plan: the Chrysalis would de-stabilize the WCG while also giving technology to the Syndicate that only Hasegawa could support. This would place him in a powerful position within the organization. He then planned to place his children at the head of the Syndicate as powerful Daodan symbiotes, or else he chose to place Muro at the top so that he could control his dangerous son from the sidelines. His real goal was to fool the Syndicate into making modifications to the ACCs that would fix the pollution, not make it worse. He gave Muro the fake, evil plan to follow, while Hasegawa as Mukade monitored the Syndicate scientists to make sure they didn't get too close to the truth. Once the Cataclysm turned out the opposite of how the Syndicate expected it to, the criminal organization would collapse as Hasegawa retreated into the shadows. However, when Mukade was injured by Mai and put out of the picture (see Rooftops theory under "Mukade" section), his plan went awry; Mai blew up the ACCs right before they could start reversing the pollution. (geyser) | ||
*Master Plan theory part two: In Oni 2, Hasegawa now has to return to the Syndicate to try to fix things. This time he has more pollution to contend with, and he'll | *Master Plan theory part two: In Oni 2, Hasegawa now has to return to the Syndicate to try to fix things. This time he has more pollution to contend with, and he'll have the obstacle of convincing the Syndicate to rebuild the ACCs. Since Hasegawa is a symbiote and will live forever, the burden of trying to save the world distances him from humanity. His goal of guiding the world from an everlasting pedestal is at odds with the desires of Mai and the rebels who want freedom. (geyser) | ||
*This is just one possible identity for Hasegawa. He may not head META; he may or may not be Mukade, or Mukade may be based on him, or he may have become Mukade. Multiple truths can be hinted at in the course of the game. (geyser) | *This is just one possible identity for Hasegawa. He may not head META; he may or may not be Mukade, or Mukade may be based on him, or he may have become Mukade. Multiple truths can be hinted at in the course of the game. (geyser) | ||
*Hasegawa has probably left the Syndicate by the time of Oni, judging by the fact that the new symbiotes (Mukade and Barabas) are weaker than Mai and Muro, and at least one of them is in a disfigured state. They're still trying to get the Chrysalis implantation process right. (Laughing_Man_Ra) | *Hasegawa has probably left the Syndicate by the time of Oni, judging by the fact that the new symbiotes (Mukade and Barabas) are weaker than Mai and Muro, and at least one of them is in a disfigured state. They're still trying to get the Chrysalis implantation process right. (Laughing_Man_Ra) | ||
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*Hikari, an SLD (or android) who may have some of Shinatama's memories. She may have much important information that she can give to Mai if they find each other; she may also need to find that knowledge herself before she can share it. (owldreamer) However, she may be distanced from Mai because of the changes both of them have gone through, with a resulting lack of trust in each other; Hikari may even fear Mai. Her artificial skin may have the ability to cloak at will or camouflage her. (geyser) | *Hikari, an SLD (or android) who may have some of Shinatama's memories. She may have much important information that she can give to Mai if they find each other; she may also need to find that knowledge herself before she can share it. (owldreamer) However, she may be distanced from Mai because of the changes both of them have gone through, with a resulting lack of trust in each other; Hikari may even fear Mai. Her artificial skin may have the ability to cloak at will or camouflage her. (geyser) | ||
*Hacker kid who assists Hikari. (owldreamer) May be grandson of Dr. Edwards. (geyser) | *Hacker kid who assists Hikari. (owldreamer) May be grandson of Dr. Edwards. (geyser) | ||
*Dr. Edwards, head of | *Dr. Edwards, head of META's Daodan research. He is wary of the dangers of using the Chrysalis. (Last_Hero) He may be kept mostly in the dark, and be perfectly fine with that, in contrast to Pandora who wants more knowledge. (geyser) | ||
*Relative or former subordinate of Griffin. He or she wants revenge on Konoko, at least at first. (geyser) | *Relative or former subordinate of Griffin. He or she wants revenge on Konoko, at least at first. (geyser) | ||
*"Pandora" (working name), a scientist who defects from | *"Pandora" (working name), a scientist who defects from META to Phoenix with equipment for making a few Chrysalises. She is optimistic about the Chrysalis, which brings her into conflict with Mai. (geyser) | ||
*Various evil Imago-form Daodan hosts spawned from | *Various evil Imago-form Daodan hosts spawned from Pandora's "box". (geyser) | ||
[[Category:Oni 2]] | [[Category:Oni 2]] |