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Pages 1-15 (the first half) of the thread "A Storyline for Oni 2" from OCF are summarized below, for eventual further summarization on the Oni2:Storyline page. The summary of pages 16-30 is found [[Oni2:Storyline/PostSummary2|HERE]].
Pages 1-15 (the first half) of the thread "A Storyline for Oni 2" from OCF are summarized below, for eventual further summarization on the Oni2:A Storyline page. The summary of pages 16-30 is found [[Oni2:A Storyline/PostSummary2|here]].


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| Pierre
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| Gameplay, Vehicles
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| Vehicles are easy to code, but of limited usefulness; would rather drive a "battle hardsuit from [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnKPegu0SA Bubblegum Crisis]" using [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sOC8gi2Bik ZOE 2]'s controls. Laments lack of artists. Affirms that he has done, or will do, the other things that geyser listed, except for allies and disguises. Overpower mode should be gauge-limited, not time-limited.
| Vehicles are easy to code, but of limited usefulness; would rather drive a "battle hardsuit from [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnKPegu0SA Bubblegum Crisis]" using [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sOC8gi2Bik ZOE 2]'s controls. Laments lack of artists. Affirms that he has done, or will do, the other things that geyser listed, except for allies and disguises. Overpower mode should be gauge-limited, not time-limited.
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| Kumo
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| Gameplay, MainChar, Daodan, Mai
| Gameplay, MainChar, Daodan, Mai
| Likes idea of DBZ-style power-up scene. Clarifies that he meant fighting alongside Mai. In response to main char. being weaker, maybe (again, referencing DBZ) the newer generation of Chrysalis reaches maturity faster. Likes wall-running idea, suggests using it for counter-attacks a la Double Dragon [I couldn't find video of that, but here's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy59xjF21Rs#t=2m44s a video] of Double Dragon III, a game that predated Street Fighter II -- some of these moves look pretty familiar ^_^]. But wall flips would be hard to do without being able to see behind you. Suggests that Mai's hair grow when she transforms, and float in the air.
| Likes idea of DBZ-style power-up scene. Clarifies that he meant fighting alongside Mai. In response to main char. being weaker, maybe (again, referencing DBZ) the newer generation of Chrysalis reaches maturity faster. Likes wall-running idea, suggests using it for counter-attacks a la Double Dragon [I couldn't find video of that, but here's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy59xjF21Rs#t=2m44s a video] of Double Dragon III, a game that predated Street Fighter II -- some of these moves look pretty familiar ^_^]. But wall flips would be hard to do without being able to see behind you. Suggests that Mai's hair grow when she transforms, and float in the air.
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| Hadn't realized Hikari was an SLD, that explains the face. How tall is she compared to Mai? Just read [http://www.haibane.de/oni/ owldreamer's proposal] for an Oni 2. Likes it, but it's adventurey, not actiony; should be a separate game, maybe with Hikari and Mai glimpsing each other throughout game and meeting at the end. Taking place 20 years after Oni is what he had in mind, too, but not with Mai dead, but in fact the same apparent age as in Oni.
| Hadn't realized Hikari was an SLD, that explains the face. How tall is she compared to Mai? Just read owldreamer's proposal (<nowiki>http://www.haibane.de/oni/</nowiki>, dead link) for an Oni 2. Likes it, but it's adventurey, not actiony; should be a separate game, maybe with Hikari and Mai glimpsing each other throughout game and meeting at the end. Taking place 20 years after Oni is what he had in mind, too, but not with Mai dead, but in fact the same apparent age as in Oni.
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| Reiterates that Daodan is a separate entity that replaces the host. Points to mention of its "unearthly" abilities. It could be a "sentient cancer from outer space". From "another dimension"... wherever Screaming Cells and Mukade's Devil Star are from. Chrysalis is what results when this alien lifeform comes into contact with one of us. Its cells are like stem cells that don't lose their totipotence and which split rapidly and want to replace other cells. Smarter than cancer because it doesn't kill its host. Perhaps Daodan comes from superior, immaterial beings who want to evolve material life to serve some purpose of their own... references Asimov [is referring to "Does A Bee Care?", one of my favorite Asimov stories. Here's [[wikipedia:Does a Bee Care?|a crappy summary]] of that short story, but you're better off reading the real thing than spoiling it for yourself.] Muro's monstrous transformation was a result of being unstable (noting the talk of "stability" with regards to Mai in the story); he developed too fast. Daodan has to gather info about host by finishing an initial transformation before it can settle down and adapt at a "standby" rate. Aura in overpower mode is visible aspect of the original immaterial Daodan being, which continues to guide the process. Unlike host, it's immortal. Responding to TTK, says that there are three or four prime symbiotes (counts Barabas and Mukade). Asks why owldreamer why Hikari should simply re-use Mai's animations. Is his Syndicate leader a Daodan Imago? Asks for opinions on cel shading.
| Reiterates that Daodan is a separate entity that replaces the host. Points to mention of its "unearthly" abilities. It could be a "sentient cancer from outer space". From "another dimension"... wherever Screaming Cells and Mukade's Devil Star are from. Chrysalis is what results when this alien lifeform comes into contact with one of us. Its cells are like stem cells that don't lose their totipotence and which split rapidly and want to replace other cells. Smarter than cancer because it doesn't kill its host. Perhaps Daodan comes from superior, immaterial beings who want to evolve material life to serve some purpose of their own... references Asimov [is referring to "Does A Bee Care?", one of my favorite Asimov stories. Here's [[wikipedia:Does a Bee Care%3F|a shoddy summary]] of that short story, but you're better off reading the real thing than spoiling it for yourself.] Muro's monstrous transformation was a result of being unstable (noting the talk of "stability" with regards to Mai in the story); he developed too fast. Daodan has to gather info about host by finishing an initial transformation before it can settle down and adapt at a "standby" rate. Aura in overpower mode is visible aspect of the original immaterial Daodan being, which continues to guide the process. Unlike host, it's immortal. Responding to TTK, says that there are three or four prime symbiotes (counts Barabas and Mukade). Asks why owldreamer why Hikari should simply re-use Mai's animations. Is his Syndicate leader a Daodan Imago? Asks for opinions on cel shading.
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| Points out that Mukade doesn't show his face because he's a ninja, not necessarily because he's a freak. Lack of aura is because he doesn't go into overpower mode like Mai and Muro. Points out that a copy is never an original, by definition. The Imago host is upgraded in all ways. If it doesn't have the same biological needs as a human, then why should Mai's motivations or way of thinking remain the same? Then again, the brain remains "whole" even as it is replaced by the Daodan, so there's a certain kind of common identity between host and Daodan. Explains that "sentient" in context of Screamers doesn't mean "human-like intellect", just feeling and responding to sensation. Thinks, however, that the aura is what separates the Daodan from the merely sentient Screamer, and represents a guiding entity. Story would be much less interesting without this kind of intelligent design. Agrees with idea of another stage of evolution after Imago. Responding to Gatkowski, feels that there is not enough room in an action game for a focus on personalities [...?!......?!?!]. Wants story to be light, with back story and scientific details hidden in optional places like consoles and diary. Should have some humor in there, too.
| Points out that Mukade doesn't show his face because he's a ninja, not necessarily because he's a freak. Lack of aura is because he doesn't go into overpower mode like Mai and Muro. Points out that a copy is never an original, by definition. The Imago host is upgraded in all ways. If it doesn't have the same biological needs as a human, then why should Mai's motivations or way of thinking remain the same? Then again, the brain remains "whole" even as it is replaced by the Daodan, so there's a certain kind of common identity between host and Daodan. Explains that "sentient" in context of Screamers doesn't mean "human-like intellect", just feeling and responding to sensation. Thinks, however, that the aura is what separates the Daodan from the merely sentient Screamer, and represents a guiding entity. Story would be much less interesting without this kind of intelligent design. Agrees with idea of another stage of evolution after Imago. Responding to Gatkowski, feels that there is not enough room in an action game for a focus on personalities [...?!......?!?!]. Wants story to be light, with back story and scientific details hidden in optional places like consoles and diary. Should have some humor in there, too.
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| We know nothing about Mukade, not even his (?) gender. Perhaps he's a Daodan host, perhaps he's a mutated clone of Konoko. Mukade and Barabas are probably both Chrysalis experiments, but Barabas less successful, and augmented by technology. Shinatama's death was symbolic because she had Konoko's brain engrams, and it marks the point at which Konoko goes rogue. And why does TCTF only then decide to kill Konoko, when she loses her SLD and engram-mate?
| We know nothing about Mukade, not even his (?) gender. Perhaps he's a Daodan host, perhaps he's a mutated clone of Konoko. Mukade and Barabas are probably both Chrysalis experiments, but Barabas less successful, and augmented by technology. Shinatama's death was symbolic because she had Konoko's brain engrams, and it marks the point at which Konoko goes rogue. And why does TCTF only then decide to kill Konoko, when she loses her SLD and engram-mate?
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| Pollution, Settings, Syndicate, Iron Demon, Society, Barabas, Themes, OtherChar
| Konoko makes it clear at the end of Oni that the atmospheric damage is not going to be reversed, so even after 20 years, order is not a sure thing. Thinks that geyser et al. are brushing that major issue under the rug when they wish for a stable setting for their game. Also, the Syndicate draws its strength from the underprivileged masses living outside the cities, therefore after the fall of the cities the struggle between authorities and Syndicate will only grow and chaos will increase. Finally, 20 years passing will disconnect the story's atmosphere from Oni 1. Points to Bungie's trend with other sequels -- in Myth and Halo, a single charismatic individual survives destruction to bring about a new order. Also, game doesn't have to be set in a wasteland; half-ruined cities, secret installations, even offices in new cities can be settings. Simply doesn't see how post-apocalyptic setting limits potential of an action game. Describes scenes wherein Mai runs from TCTF recovery squads and the Iron Demon battles its way through a ruined building out into the street under a toxic rain. Questions for a sequel: (A) Might there have been other Daodan research teams, or someone who picked up where Kerr left off?; (B) Who financed Griffin and who investigated his supposed corruption [referring to [[Quotes/Consoles#Terrance_Griffin|this console]]]; (C) Might anyone at the TCTF who knew Konoko want to join her?; (D) Did Muro have any rivals who survived him at the Syndicate? Perhaps now they are seeking Konoko, as a threat or as a guide; (E) Did Hasegawa meet "other relevant persons" during his captivity in the Syndicate?; (F) Mukade could communicate with his Daodan and with Mai mentally [actually, the game only says that Konoko can "feel" Mukade and that Mukade can "feel" his Chrysalis taking him over; no actual language use is implied], so perhaps he was a more advanced prototype of Hasegawa's; was this an attempt to attain the equilibrium or control that [[Quotes/Consoles#Chrysalis_Removal|the TCTF wanted]]?; (G) Perhaps Barabas was only KOed by Konoko and is imprisoned in Oni 2, and sought out by Konoko for some answers.
| Konoko makes it clear at the end of Oni that the atmospheric damage is not going to be reversed, so even after 20 years, order is not a sure thing. Thinks that geyser et al. are brushing that major issue under the rug when they wish for a stable setting for their game. Also, the Syndicate draws its strength from the underprivileged masses living outside the cities, therefore after the fall of the cities the struggle between authorities and Syndicate will only grow and chaos will increase. Finally, 20 years passing will disconnect the story's atmosphere from Oni 1. Points to Bungie's trend with other sequels -- in Myth and Halo, a single charismatic individual survives destruction to bring about a new order. Also, game doesn't have to be set in a wasteland; half-ruined cities, secret installations, even offices in new cities can be settings. Simply doesn't see how post-apocalyptic setting limits potential of an action game. Describes scenes wherein Mai runs from TCTF recovery squads and the Iron Demon battles its way through a ruined building out into the street under a toxic rain. Questions for a sequel: (A) Might there have been other Daodan research teams, or someone who picked up where Kerr left off?; (B) Who financed Griffin and who investigated his supposed corruption [referring to [[Quotes/Consoles#Terrance_Griffin|this console]]]; (C) Might anyone at the TCTF who knew Konoko want to join her?; (D) Did Muro have any rivals who survived him at the Syndicate? Perhaps now they are seeking Konoko, as a threat or as a guide; (E) Did Hasegawa meet "other relevant persons" during his captivity in the Syndicate?; (F) Mukade could communicate with his Daodan and with Mai mentally [actually, the game only says that Konoko can "feel" Mukade and that Mukade can "feel" his Chrysalis taking him over; no actual language use is implied], so perhaps he was a more advanced prototype of Hasegawa's; was this an attempt to attain the equilibrium or control that [[Quotes/Consoles#Chrysalis_Removal|the TCTF wanted]]?; (G) Perhaps Barabas was only KOed by Konoko and is imprisoned in Oni 2, and sought out by Konoko for some answers.
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| Doesn't consider Mukade to be secondary. Plans him to be main character besides Mai that carries over from Oni 1. Doesn't want people to have to suspend their belief because of a sloppy story, wants to build a careful, consistent world. So we need to work out all these details now, not later. At the same time, agrees that we should keep the opening of Oni 2 simple and only later fill in details. Does care about characters; has idea for Mai's best "friend" [referencing [[Oni2:Characters/Big|Mr. Big]]].
| Doesn't consider Mukade to be secondary. Plans him to be main character besides Mai that carries over from Oni 1. Doesn't want people to have to suspend their belief because of a sloppy story, wants to build a careful, consistent world. So we need to work out all these details now, not later. At the same time, agrees that we should keep the opening of Oni 2 simple and only later fill in details. Does care about characters; has idea for Mai's best "friend" [referencing [[Oni2:Big|Mr. Big]]].
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| Asks about "air dispensers" in [[:Image:GuidoArt-Gimme.jpg|Guido's art]]; would WCG even bother trying to help the "underprivileged masses"? Separate threads may not be needed.  
| Asks about "air dispensers" in [[:Image:Guido - Gimme.jpg|Guido's art]]; would WCG even bother trying to help the "underprivileged masses"? Separate threads may not be needed.  
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| Mukade, Barabas, Shinatama, Muro, Pollution, Society, Syndicate, Mai, Gameplay, Daodan
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| Agrees with almost all of geyser's ideas concerning Mukade. "I think he could assume a number of very different (maybe conflicting) roles, even in a single storyline. I also think that his relationship with Konoko should be kept ambiguous in any case." [Posts picture but link is broken. I think it was an earlier version of [[:Image:GUIDO_Mai_Tandem_2.jpg|THIS]].]
| Agrees with almost all of geyser's ideas concerning Mukade. "I think he could assume a number of very different (maybe conflicting) roles, even in a single storyline. I also think that his relationship with Konoko should be kept ambiguous in any case." [Posts picture but link is broken. I think it was an earlier version of [[:Image:Guido - Mai_Tandem_2.jpg|THIS]].]
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