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 :I understand you're a bit like me: figure out something, have a little fun, move on...
 :But that's not very rewarding. For you, maybe, but not for "us"... Oh well.
-:ssg has tried adding files to a DAT before you, and failed. Have a look [http://www6.fh-eberswalde.de/user/dkriesch/onistuff/subfold/datfile/datfile.htm HERE] if you haven't already...
+:ssg has tried adding files to a DAT before you, and failed. Have a look [http://ssg.oni2.net/subfold/datfile/datfile.htm HERE] if you haven't already...
 :There's a lot of stuff to take care of, and it's definitely not something you should do manually.
 ::(not that it's impossible, but even if you manage to do it, it will be of no ''general'' use)
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 ::;geyser
+:may i ask you a question?
+:what does "totoro" mean
+:i've googled a bit on it, and found only some spherical anime character
+::;[[User:Kuchumovn|Kuchumovn]] 15:12, 18 December 2007 (CET)
+:totoro is the name of the animation system/engine. The developers gave them anime character names
+:akira ==> name of the um... environment(?) system/engine (octrees, nodes, rays, etc.)
+:motoko ==> name of the drawing(?) system/engine (graphics quality, resolution, colour, z-buffer, etc.) [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 16:06, 18 December 2007 (CET)
+:danke
+::;[[User:Kuchumovn|Kuchumovn]] 16:43, 18 December 2007 (CET)
+:пожалуйста [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 16:59, 18 December 2007 (CET)
 ==Data types==
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 :Oh, and a priori I don't know WTF "ghost" is, so in case you know better, a few words of wisdom are always welcome.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 13:56, 31 January 2007 (CET)
+ghost = something you can't see + touch. So a ghost GQ is invisible and not solid.
+<p align=right>[[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 13:13, 1 February 2007 (CET)
 ==OBD update==
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 :The two IDXA can be used for two-way lookup. Only gunk -> quad is used when you use '''env_show''' etc.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 12:05, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+----
+Cool. Thanks.
+<p align=right>[[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 13:21, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+----
 :As for the ONOA, that one is related to the unknown field of the AGQG (the one which is not always 0xFFFFFFFF).
 :That field is an object ID, looked up in the ONOA. Several quads can belong to the same object (same ID).
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 :The high byte of the ID is an object type. 0x05 is furniture, 0x03 is doorframe, 0x0D is trigger guide, 0x0F is console, etc.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 12:05, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+----
+I figured that out yesterday too. 0E is turret. And that's it. There're no others. The first 2 bytes are the old file ID. It's the same as in the BINA files.
+:
+Why Oni needs this file (ONOA)? Any idea. IMO Oni needs only the door entries, because if you disable them, the doors aren't any longer solid. But if I disable the other objects I can't see an effect.
+<p align=right>[[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 13:21, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+:What do you mean, "disable"? Resource, offset, new value?
+:I'm not 100% sure why Oni needs it (to look up "gunks with all their glass broken", perhaps).
+:Anyway, I find it useful because it will let us to selectively extract furniture (etc) separately from architecture.
+::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:21, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+:I repeat my question (stuff is a bit scattered on this page, sorry ^^):
+::do you know any way to quickly find out the ID of a quad (e.g. AGQG element)?
+::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:21, 1 February 2007 (CET)
+----
+<TABLE BORDER=0><TR><TD BGCOLOR="#E0E0E0">"do you know any way to quickly find out the ID of a quad"</TD></TR></TABLE>
+:
+Not really. If I'm interested in a GQ, I start Oni (debug_charas on and textures off) and look for the corner points of the GQ. With this information I look to the PNTA file (I've put the coordinates in an Excel sheet) and search for the points. When I've found them, I take the package IDs and search in the AGQG file (a Excel sheet too) for them.
+:
+[[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 13:33, 7 February 2007 (CET)
 ==Generic files==
 ===VCRA===
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 :Used by a few files, format seems to be invariant.
 ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:15, 30 January 2007 (CET)
+==Categorizing OBD screenshots==
+I experimentally tagged [[:Image:Abna_a.gif]] with the category "OBD data images". Does this name make sense to anyone whom it concerns? If so, I can mark that mentally as the official category for those images, and over time make sure they are categorized. Since there's a decent number of those images, I want to be 100% sure of the category name before going ahead with the rest. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:07, 12 October 2008 (CEST)
+{{OBD}}