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Trying out some new weapons, which might make it into AE.
Collecting data for WPge for each of the New Weapons in AE.  
(Please add or correct any data. Include any comments for the individual weapons)


==w15_smg Silenced Machine Gun==
==w10_sni==
;Files
:Name...........Screaming Ninjaball or Devil Star gun
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w15_smg.zip
:Ammunition Type.....................Energy Cells
:File contains .oni  files.
:Magazine Capacity.......................6 rounds
:Fire Rate...............1. rounds per 10 seconds


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w15_smg.jpg
:Description


;ToDo
:Hint
:DONE: Fix particles position
:Primary mode Mukade's ninja ball uses 2 rounds per shot.
:Silent particles?
:Secondary mode Screaming cell 6 rounds


;Comments
:[[Image:TXMPninjaball.jpg]]
:ONWC based on Chaingun.  Do we need shoulder support? With other characters, it goes inside their bodies. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 18:02, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::The shoulder pad is OK; you just need to make the gun smaller: the pistol grip and trigger guard should be commensurate to the "handfist" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:36, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Updated: smaller gun --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 03:55, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Still too big. The pistol grip is supposed to fit within her fist (laterally, not vertically of course; the butt can and must stick a bit from the underside of the fist); the trigger guard, if possible, must span only the index finger (and some empty space above it). Also feel free to experiment with different color schemes and reflection maps... --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::A bit smaller, adjusted particles position. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 04:02, 2 August 2008 (CEST)


==w16_crb Carbine==
==w12_ba2==
Files
:Name.....................Wave Motion Cannon Lite
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w16_crb.zip
:Ammunition Type......................Energy Cell
:File contains .oni  files.
:Magazine Capacity......................10 rounds
:Fire Rate.................1 rounds per 4 seconds


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w16_crb.jpg
:Description
;Status: Rejected
;Comments
:ONWC based on Chaingun.  First attempt to create new weapon. Just added weapons info for reference.  --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:00, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:I didn't really reject that one - it ''is'' a little "ordinary", but I suppose it could make make a fine shotgun (with a different texture/color); BTW, it's too big and the pistol grip is completely out of place. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)


==w17_sap Sub machine gun==
:Hint
Files
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w17_sap.zip
:File contains .oni  files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w17_sap.jpg
:[[Image:TXMPwmclite.jpg]]
;Status: Rejected - Oni is not Counterstrike


;Comments
==w13_muro==
:ONWC based on w2_sap, recoil reduced. Just added weapons info for reference. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:00, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:Name..........Muro gun or TK (Telekinetic) Bracelet
:Ammunition Type...........................Unknown
:Magazine Capacity.........................Unknown
:Fire Rate.................................Unknown


:Description
:Mutant Muro's Thunderbolt (levitating attractive force) and "Blanka" attack (repulsive force) in one weapon.


==w18_asr2 Assault Rifle==
:Hint
;Files
:Primary mode: Tractor
:http://geyser.oni2.net/edition/weapons/w18_asr2.zip
:Secondary mode: Thunderbolt [this is incorrectly labeled, as Thunderbolt is the tractor attack; "Repulsor" would be an accurate label, if one wants to avoid "Blanka" as a non-explanatory Street Fighter reference]
:File contains .oni  files.


http://wiki.oni2.net/w/images/6/68/Importing_weapons_RIGHT.png
:[[Image:TXMPmurogun.jpg]]


;Comments
==w14_sbg2==
:geyser fixed the texture issue and 3D mesh. (He's much better at modeling than I will ever be) --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:47, 4 August 2008 (CEST)
:Name..............................Super Ball Gun 2
:Primary fire is Chaingun, secondary fire is grenades --Ed
:Ammunition Type.....................Ballistic Ammo
:One Halo rip too many? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 05:27, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:Magazine Capacity.........................Unknown
::Doesn't the MC need his AR? :-) Actually, this weapon is too powerful. Perhaps a Boss weapon? [[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:57, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:Fire Rate.................................Unknown
:::No, the MC needs to be de-Halo-ized in every possible aspecct, and the more original his weapons are, the better. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::As for the excessive deadliness, of course any enemy wielding this is a virtual subboss. No problem with that. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::It just needs to be balanced a bit in terms of ammunition and reloading time. I'd also scrap the grenades. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:Ed, I have a question. Where did you get the mesh/texture, and what did you process the mesh with (triangulation? in what 3D tool?) --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 00:07, 5 August 2008 (CEST)


==w19_shg Shotgun==
:Description
Files
:This is an SBG with two firing modes : regular SBG rounds and WMC grenades.
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w19_shg.zip
:Ammo clip capacity is 5 regular SBG rounds or 10 WMC grenades.
:File contains .oni  files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w19_shg.jpg
:Hint
;Status: Rejected- Oni is not Counterstrike
;Comments
:ONWC based on chaingun, sustained fire disabled.  Audio of weapon fire continues if mouse button held down. Just added weapons info for reference. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:00, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::My idea of a "Demonslayer" shotgun was [http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/free-obj-mode-rifle/361993 THIS], but maybe it's more expedient to work with 17secs's AEG rifle a.k.a. "carbine" up there. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Or, if you really want it to look like a conventional shotgun, there's [http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/308701 THIS] --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:50, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
::::I went to download the future shotgun, but the texture is missing, I filed a support ticket. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 04:52, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::The texture is supposed to become available as a separate download, after you've downloaded the mesh. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 12:16, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
::::::Its supposed to be available, but when I click on the link to download the texture after I downloaded the mesh, I get an error message saying the file is not available. Maybe its a Mac browser issue --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 13:23, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::::Sigh... looks like you're right, and there have been complaints about that before. Oh well, it sucked anyway - too real-worldish. Either get someone to invent a texture (what, no one? then we're screwed) or go back to painting the "carbine" ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 14:01, 2 August 2008 (CEST)


==w20_lzr Disrupter Rifle==
:[[Image:TXMPsuperball2.jpg]]
;Files
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w20_lzr.zip
:File contains .oni, .obj, .mtl and .tiff files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w20_lzr.jpg
==w15_smg==
:Name..................................Machine Gun
:Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
:Magazine Capacity.......................30 rounds
:Fire Rate....................12 rounds per second


;ToDo
:Description
:New particles
::Could you elevate it a bit (rotate about the transverse axis) so that the barrel matches that of the plasma rifle? this will also help matching the position of the hands and handles more naturally (the pistol grip is rather off now, and the supporting hand is inside the mesh, partly because of the insufficient elevation). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Adjusted position of weapon. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 04:45, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Now it aims a bit too high... or maybe it was just your first shot that wasn't steady? ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 14:03, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::OK, I split the difference in the angle and lowered the particles a bit --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 01:05, 3 August 2008 (CEST)


;Comments
:Hint
:ONWC based on w3_phr. Rough UV map, I tried to separate the main parts of the weapon. --Ed
:New particles for this weapon? --Ed
::''I intended it as a flame thrower, originally... but if Gumby has cool-looking "disruptor particles", let's have a look --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 05:27, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::Was this based on the half assed weapon I never finished with? From the looks of the files inside this doesn't have what I had made. I do like the model you gave. The only particles I had were the red colored ones I sent you geyser...(should still be located on gumby.oni2.net). The other option is the "authentic" looking particles I made from the Mbow. You know, a long red line, like a "laser" should be :) I still need to add the burning in though, if you wanted me to do that, tell me, and I will add them to the weapon you sent me, and send it back to you :). [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 06:18, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::::This is the 3D laser rifle geyser suggested we use on the Project Imago page.  --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:57, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::::Gumby: in the absence of a flame thrower, a "real laser" (long, red line) will be a nice placeholder indeed (with fire on impact, definitely). If you can, make the long red line uninterrupted in both space and time, with the trail constantly emitted at the weapon, and the collisions updated on the target end; somewhat closer to how w4_psp works. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::::::Okay, well I have a nice red laser particle. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG7ym_nPjwo&feature=related THIS VIDEO] at 1:50, is what you want? [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 20:01, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::::::The red particle, if available, is great news for the trailer, along with the rocket. Even if we eventually make new weapons for them, for now they'll do fine as WMC Lite ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)


==w21_uzi Uzi==
:''Need graphic for page''
;Files
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w21_uzi.zip
:File contains .oni files


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w21_uzi.jpg


;ToDo
==w21_uzi==
:Fix particles position
:Name...............................BGI Subjugator
:Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
:Magazine Capacity.......................30 rounds
:Fire Rate....................12 rounds per second


;Comments
:Description
:EDIT: renamed to w21_uzi
:A powerful pistol mainly used by BGI associates, it is more accurate than the Black Adder, but is prone to overheating. It also sports an alternate three bullet burst firing mode.
:ONWC based on w2_sap. Particle height needs adjustment if we keep the w2_sap particles. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 06:57, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:There's some confusion here. This is just a regular SubMachineGun (and a good-looking one at that). Could be a suitable sidearm for BGI executives. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:Another suitable handgun is the autopistol from the same collection: these two are close enough to w1_tap and w2_sap, respectively --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:The "silenced machine gun" is ''another'' weapon mesh from the same collection: it is larger and has a big nice silencer; you can't miss it. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:58, 31 July 2008 (CEST)


:Hint
:Use the primary firing mode for suppression fire or close enemies.
:Use the secondary firing mode when you need more accuracy.


==w22_pst Pistol==
:''Done''
Files
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w22_pst.zip
:File contains .oni  files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w22_pst.jpg


;ToDo
==w22_pst==
:DONE: Reduce recoil? Konoko should be able to hold the gun steady :-) --Ed
:Name...................................BGI Pistol
::Do you mean because she's superhuman? :-) --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:40, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
:Magazine Capacity.......................10 rounds
:Fire Rate.....................5 rounds per second


;Comments
:Description
:ONWC based on w1_tap --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:00, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::It's a bit too big. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:40, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Updated. Better? --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 03:55, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Still a bit too large. Same criticism as w15_smg above --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::A bit smaller, removed recoil and adjusted particles. --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 04:01, 2 August 2008 (CEST)


==w23_rla Rocket Launcher + Laser==
:Hint
Coming tomorrow (or the next day...) I just need to fix one thing.
Just reserving the name\number. If you already have a w23, tell me.[[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 07:29, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:I thought we agreed to combine the rocket launcher and the laser into WMC Lite (so, w12_ba2)? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:54, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:Unless you have figured out the hold-release thingie; then it deserves a [http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-bazooka-rocket-launcher/361997 separate weapon mesh] --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:54, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
::The hold release thing is coming, eventually. I will figure it out, but right now my plan is: 1. Fix rocket particle 2. Finish the laser 3. Add in hold+release. And other things may bump it down on the list. Unless you want me to prioritize it? [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 21:13, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Small update: Rocket particle close enough to done (not the best of projectiles, but good enough). Laser getting there. I just have to mess with the lifetime of the contrail. Right now I am getting a light show effect. Cool, but not what we want. :) More, when it isn't 1:42 AM. [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 10:42, 2 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Another update: Laser is working...sort of. I need to replace the sounds and hit actions, but those aren't a big deal. WWhat is annoying is the fact that the laser seems to tear at longer distances. This is solvable by making the particle move faster. Unfortunately, this makes short range firing disappear (if the particle hits a wall before the part of the engine that draws contrails catches it, there is no contrail...) So, I have to make it fire two particles. The first is the long range one that actually does damage. The second is a short range one that disappears before it can get the tearing effect, and does no damage. I don't have the time to do this tonight though, and tomorrow I am going to Seafair. So Monday I should have a testable version of this.[[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 04:09, 3 August 2008 (CEST)


:''Need graphic for page''


==w24_psr==
;Files
:http://drop.io/ONIrules
:File contains .oni files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/w24_psr.jpg
==w23_rla==
:Name...............BGI High-Yield Rocket Launcher
:Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
:Magazine Capacity.........................1 round


;Comments
:Description
: It actually shoots plasma. Replace the image EdT --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST) -Done --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 05:45, 4 August 2008 (CEST)
:This rocket launcher is a force to be reckoned with! Originally intended to be used as an antiaircraft weapon, the targeting system was removed and the firing mechanism reconfigured to fit inside the chassis of a Superball Gun.
: Shoots rapid plasma now --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)
: Yeah its small (I think),but this is my first try though. --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)
: [http://halowiki.net/p/Plasma_Rifle BEWARE. OF. HALO. RIPS.] --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 15:27, 3 August 2008 (CEST)
: Huh?? --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)
: Your new weapon is a [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3plasmarifle Covenant Plasma Rifle] from Halo 1/2/3, and the mesh probably ripped. Not that you can't experiment with it, but keep in mind it's pretty much a stolen asset. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:26, 3 August 2008 (CEST)
:Is this a bad thing? --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)
: I don't know... I'm not Bungie's lawyer. But whereas the stolen Master Chief is arguably taken to a new level in Oni (able to fight awesome melee and all that), the Halo weapons you and Ed have injected into Oni so far have dull and and possibly messed-up textures, which makes them look, well, shamelessly lame. If you want Covenant weapons to look "at home" in Oni's universe, you'll have to show a bit more tender loving care ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:51, 3 August 2008 (CEST)
: I'm a little worry. --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)
: Heh, don't worry, I'm just f##king with you? ^_^ as long as you keep experimenting, it's OK, but please don't think of Halo rips as more than ''placeholders''. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:25, 3 August 2008 (CEST)
: OK, OK, ''don't'' frog blast the vent core!! ^_^ --[[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]]


==Others==
:Hint
Here are the original files for:
:The Rocket Launcher must not be fired at close range!
:[http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/180387 Pallet rifle] http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/pallet.zip
:[http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/308701 Future Shotgun] http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/FShotgun.zip


I hurt my shoulder this past weekend and can hardly raise my right arm up, its painful to work on the computer.  So I'll have to take a break for awhile.
:''Done''
Pierre was able to convert the pallet rifle to .obj and I got the texture for the Shotgun through tech support.
If anyone wants to work on getting these weapons into Oni, go ahead.
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 22:40, 4 August 2008 (CEST)


Sorry that you hurt your shoulder. Just too much work you did. Be well! ^_^ [[User:ONIrules|ONIrules]] August 2008 (EST)


==w25_chg==
:Name......................................Chaingun
:Ammunition Type.....................Ballistic Ammo
:Magazine Capacity.......................?
:Fire Rate...............................?


----
:Description
==s1_swd Sword==
;Files
:http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/s1_swd.zip
:File contains .oni  files.


http://edt.oni2.net/AE_Files/s1_swd.jpg
:Hint
;Status: REJECTED BIG TIME!


;Comments
:''Need graphic for page''
:Just for fun... Maybe Loser will get some ideas...  --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 04:19, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
 
::We need a s2_lsb Lightsaber...Just for fun :D [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 07:32, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
[[Category:Obsolete AE mods]]
:::It's not funny, and all the less so as Loser already ''had'' his major idea on that topic. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:51, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::I'm talking about the animation-bound particles of the BGI Spartan (energy sword etc). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:51, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::As compared to this one idea, all this talk of bats and knives is lame, lame, lame... --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 10:51, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Gumby, looks like we can't have any fun... :-) --[[User:EdT|EdT]] 16:08, 1 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::You can, but not at this time of year, dammit. There's a detailed roadmap for the trailer and only 3 weeks left, and what do ''you'' do? swords... ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:41, 1 August 2008 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 21:08, 14 October 2023

These weapons are available from within the AE Installer under the name "New Weapons Collection".

Collecting data for WPge for each of the New Weapons in AE. (Please add or correct any data. Include any comments for the individual weapons)

w10_sni

Name...........Screaming Ninjaball or Devil Star gun
Ammunition Type.....................Energy Cells
Magazine Capacity.......................6 rounds
Fire Rate...............1. rounds per 10 seconds
Description
Hint
Primary mode Mukade's ninja ball uses 2 rounds per shot.
Secondary mode Screaming cell 6 rounds
TXMPninjaball.jpg

w12_ba2

Name.....................Wave Motion Cannon Lite
Ammunition Type......................Energy Cell
Magazine Capacity......................10 rounds
Fire Rate.................1 rounds per 4 seconds
Description
Hint
TXMPwmclite.jpg

w13_muro

Name..........Muro gun or TK (Telekinetic) Bracelet
Ammunition Type...........................Unknown
Magazine Capacity.........................Unknown
Fire Rate.................................Unknown
Description
Mutant Muro's Thunderbolt (levitating attractive force) and "Blanka" attack (repulsive force) in one weapon.
Hint
Primary mode: Tractor
Secondary mode: Thunderbolt [this is incorrectly labeled, as Thunderbolt is the tractor attack; "Repulsor" would be an accurate label, if one wants to avoid "Blanka" as a non-explanatory Street Fighter reference]
TXMPmurogun.jpg

w14_sbg2

Name..............................Super Ball Gun 2
Ammunition Type.....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.........................Unknown
Fire Rate.................................Unknown
Description
This is an SBG with two firing modes : regular SBG rounds and WMC grenades.
Ammo clip capacity is 5 regular SBG rounds or 10 WMC grenades.
Hint
TXMPsuperball2.jpg

w15_smg

Name..................................Machine Gun
Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.......................30 rounds
Fire Rate....................12 rounds per second
Description
Hint
Need graphic for page


w21_uzi

Name...............................BGI Subjugator
Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.......................30 rounds
Fire Rate....................12 rounds per second
Description
A powerful pistol mainly used by BGI associates, it is more accurate than the Black Adder, but is prone to overheating. It also sports an alternate three bullet burst firing mode.
Hint
Use the primary firing mode for suppression fire or close enemies.
Use the secondary firing mode when you need more accuracy.
Done


w22_pst

Name...................................BGI Pistol
Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.......................10 rounds
Fire Rate.....................5 rounds per second
Description
Hint
Need graphic for page


w23_rla

Name...............BGI High-Yield Rocket Launcher
Ammunition Type....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.........................1 round
Description
This rocket launcher is a force to be reckoned with! Originally intended to be used as an antiaircraft weapon, the targeting system was removed and the firing mechanism reconfigured to fit inside the chassis of a Superball Gun.
Hint
The Rocket Launcher must not be fired at close range!
Done


w25_chg

Name......................................Chaingun
Ammunition Type.....................Ballistic Ammo
Magazine Capacity.......................?
Fire Rate...............................?
Description
Hint
Need graphic for page
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