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:::9. I really think you should separate the player's (Mai's) level of knowledge (guinea pig level) from Hasegawa's and Kerr's understanding of what's going on (inventor/designer/researcher level). When telling Mai about the Syndicate's raid, Kerr admits that he didn't see it coming - "They left us alone for the most part. We didn't think they were interested in our work. We were wrong." - but it also makes sense to him that the Syndicate took over the project once they realized its potential - "They has been watching us very closely. When they figured out what the Chrysalis was, they raided our lab." It doesn't matter if the Syndicate saw the Chrysalis as a weapon or as a source of profit - the risk of the Chrysalis falling in the wrong hands was clear both to Kerr and to Hasegawa. | :::9. I really think you should separate the player's (Mai's) level of knowledge (guinea pig level) from Hasegawa's and Kerr's understanding of what's going on (inventor/designer/researcher level). When telling Mai about the Syndicate's raid, Kerr admits that he didn't see it coming - "They left us alone for the most part. We didn't think they were interested in our work. We were wrong." - but it also makes sense to him that the Syndicate took over the project once they realized its potential - "They has been watching us very closely. When they figured out what the Chrysalis was, they raided our lab." It doesn't matter if the Syndicate saw the Chrysalis as a weapon or as a source of profit - the risk of the Chrysalis falling in the wrong hands was clear both to Kerr and to Hasegawa. | ||
:::10. From the TNZ perspective, the risk of the Syndicate stealing the initiative on the Daodan project was so obvious to Hasegawa that it became part of the plan. The realization and final decision - spontaneous or helped by the "true Mukade" - came at least at this point in time (while working under the Syndicate's wing, but before the raid), if not earlier. Also, this time range (initial research at the Syndicate, before the raid) offers good opportunity for meeting/exchanging/plotting with the true Mukade - Hasegawa does not have perfect intuition and determination for this enterprise, but this is compensated by Mukade (general insight about the system, specific intel, bushido wisdom). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:25, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | :::10. From the TNZ perspective, the risk of the Syndicate stealing the initiative on the Daodan project was so obvious to Hasegawa that it became part of the plan. The realization and final decision - spontaneous or helped by the "true Mukade" - came at least at this point in time (while working under the Syndicate's wing, but before the raid), if not earlier. Also, this time range (initial research at the Syndicate, before the raid) offers good opportunity for meeting/exchanging/plotting with the true Mukade - Hasegawa does not have perfect intuition and determination for this enterprise, but this is compensated by Mukade (general insight about the system, specific intel, bushido wisdom). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:25, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | ||
:10. "From the TNZ perspective, the risk of the Syndicate stealing the initiative on the Daodan project was so obvious to Hasegawa that it became part of the plan." | |||
: Kerr admits that he didn't see it coming. | |||
: The two were working close together with the same motivation. It is not really believable that Hasegawa left Kerr in the dark unless Mukade almost instantly corrupted Hasegawa. I don't say the stretch could not work, it's just difficult. | |||
: 6. You seem to overlook the scale/importance of science prisons. The daodan research is not illegal because its whitepapers seem dangerous. (They could have said to tctf oversight whatever they wanted to get founding, relocate after research and use help of eco activists network to spread the daodan, not necessarily very fast.) Instead, the Daodan research wasn't going to happen because of strict tctf. -- Ironically Kerr ended up there anyway but that was to protect Mai. (For the sake of security Griffin would let them implant the Daodan. Not much persuasion needed here. It's rather the rest of tctf (critics) that would would be concerned, calming them midway with idea of cryofreezing. But for the general part Griffin had approval. "A calculated risk.") -- The tctf wouldn't let have them dev the DC freely but now that the Sndicate has a prototype and Muro they are forced to get on par. ("Griffin wanted to make sure we had a match for any weapon the Syndicate ended up with. He's a cold hearted man.") | |||
: 3. Willingly let people die by holding back life science and medical applications (wcg wants reduction of overpopluation) and 5. Bertram were meant as a examples that the tctf and wcg is strict on holding research under control on a big scale. | |||
However, from all the talk we might take note that the prototypes are an important milestone. At this point the DC's potential is clear - either as a "Daodan in a box" (for Kerr) and as "weapon" (for Syndicate/Stumanderung) and is close to the raid event. In your TNZ it is also showes Hasegawa readiness to "leave Mai behind". If you write (or plan for John) any past scenes his one should be included, I think. --[[User:Paradox-01|paradox-01]] ([[User talk:Paradox-01|talk]]) 07:19, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | |||
===The Daodan Chrysalis is unproven "super" technology - Isn't there too much confidence?=== | |||
And "They don't need proof" ? - That's quite an unscientific mindset/statement ;) | |||
The Daodan is so powerful and was done in so little time that it rises the question how a mere 2 men army could have developed it. Obviously it is not the full picture. | |||
Iritscen has basically split the amount of work by saying the daodan was invented and the chrysalis was discovered (originating from behind the phase veil, IIRC). | |||
My approach is computation. Kerr and Hasegawa heavily relied on Avatara's power to pull off that kind of research. Also to adapt to any threat the Daodan needs to be a quantum computer in blood and flesh. That's totally another research field. | |||
Avatara would note only explain the fast dev phase but also why they can be so confident. The AI made some simulations proving the capabilities and effectiveness of the DC. --[[User:Paradox-01|paradox-01]] ([[User talk:Paradox-01|talk]]) 07:19, 21 May 2020 (CEST) | |||