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:Iritscen has basically split the amount of work by saying the Daodan was invented and the Chrysalis was discovered (originating from behind the Phase Veil, IIRC). --''''Dox''' | :Iritscen has basically split the amount of work by saying the Daodan was invented and the Chrysalis was discovered (originating from behind the Phase Veil, IIRC). --''''Dox''' | ||
::Basically, yes, but the other way around: "My approach to the backstory has Hasegawa inventing the Chrysalis — the implantable form of the Daodan — but not the Daodan itself." ([[Oni2:Slaves_of_War/Overview#Backstory|Backstory]]) --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 19:42, 22 May 2020 (CEST) | ::Basically, yes, but the other way around: "My approach to the backstory has Hasegawa inventing the Chrysalis — the implantable form of the Daodan — but not the Daodan itself." ([[Oni2:Slaves_of_War/Overview#Backstory|Backstory]]) --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 19:42, 22 May 2020 (CEST) | ||
:::In that case it's close enough to "my" theory below... well, except for the plants and alien invasion and time travel. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 20:30, 22 May 2020 (CEST) | |||
::For me, the Daodan (aura) not only comes from the Phase but is also sentient. This adds a "new dimension" to the term 'symbiosis', besides the mere coexistence inside one body with one's own "tumor clone". However, the Daodan does not speak English, and its "sentience" can only be judged by the "optimal/optimizing" behavior of Chrysalis cells under its influence. Kerr's poetic tirade - "whatever your final form, it is an expression of your true nature" - is of course totally unscientific <strike>bullshit</strike> wishful thinking, and he mainly says it to reassure Mai and himself - but it ''does'' tell us that, somehow, the Chrysalis is really good at preserving its host's life ''and'' integrity. | ::For me, the Daodan (aura) not only comes from the Phase but is also sentient. This adds a "new dimension" to the term 'symbiosis', besides the mere coexistence inside one body with one's own "tumor clone". However, the Daodan does not speak English, and its "sentience" can only be judged by the "optimal/optimizing" behavior of Chrysalis cells under its influence. Kerr's poetic tirade - "whatever your final form, it is an expression of your true nature" - is of course totally unscientific <strike>bullshit</strike> wishful thinking, and he mainly says it to reassure Mai and himself - but it ''does'' tell us that, somehow, the Chrysalis is really good at preserving its host's life ''and'' integrity. | ||
::I don't have a "full picture" to show you right now, but imagine - if you can - that both the Daodan and Screamers (and Phase entities in general), are ''transdimensional'', i.e., they are either 100% "latent" (fully residing in their home dimension), 100% "present" (pulled entirely into our world), or something in between. In some conditions the entities can flow freely back-and-forth between the two worlds. In other cases there will be little bits - "tips of the iceberg" - sticking into our dimension while the bulk of the entity remains "home". Force fields, for example, can be seen as "slices" of the other dimension temporarily inserted into ours - light can travel through such a slice, but for matter it will behave like a solid barrier. As another example, phase cloak wearers are still mostly in "our" dimension, but the molecular agitation slightly "displaces" them in the direction of the Phase (a dangerous process that can lead to cellular damage or disintegration). Teleportation is similar to cloaking, but it's an even deeper (and more dangerous) excursion towards the Phase - thus, in the TNZ view, only fully integrated Daodan symbiotes can survive a teleport. | ::I don't have a "full picture" to show you right now, but imagine - if you can - that both the Daodan and Screamers (and Phase entities in general), are ''transdimensional'', i.e., they are either 100% "latent" (fully residing in their home dimension), 100% "present" (pulled entirely into our world), or something in between. In some conditions the entities can flow freely back-and-forth between the two worlds. In other cases there will be little bits - "tips of the iceberg" - sticking into our dimension while the bulk of the entity remains "home". Force fields, for example, can be seen as "slices" of the other dimension temporarily inserted into ours - light can travel through such a slice, but for matter it will behave like a solid barrier. As another example, phase cloak wearers are still mostly in "our" dimension, but the molecular agitation slightly "displaces" them in the direction of the Phase (a dangerous process that can lead to cellular damage or disintegration). Teleportation is similar to cloaking, but it's an even deeper (and more dangerous) excursion towards the Phase - thus, in the TNZ view, only fully integrated Daodan symbiotes can survive a teleport. | ||