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:::Researching 1930s comics is a honorable endeavour. I will refrain from criticism henceforth. My last two cents, though, since "hooey" is a joke word, kind of like Watterson's "Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie", how can you be sure that it's the actual Basenji that those fictional characters are talking about, and not, say, the undocumented common ancestor of the Basenji and the Dingo? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 22:33, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
:::Researching 1930s comics is a honorable endeavour. I will refrain from criticism henceforth. My last two cents, though, since "hooey" is a joke word, kind of like Watterson's "Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie", how can you be sure that it's the actual Basenji that those fictional characters are talking about, and not, say, the undocumented common ancestor of the Basenji and the Dingo? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 22:33, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
:::P.S. A propos mind-blowing stuff written NN years ago, I'd (re)recommend Lem's ''Summa Technologiae'' (1964) as a must-read, but AFAIK it still doesn't have an English translation. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 22:56, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
:::P.S. A propos mind-blowing stuff written NN years ago, I'd (re)recommend Lem's ''Summa Technologiae'' (1964) as a must-read, but AFAIK it still doesn't have an English translation. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 22:56, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
::::"Hooey" is a slang term meaning "nonsense", not to be confused with the first name Huey. But in this case the name is onomatopoetic, as the Basenji makes a [https://youtu.be/lvHCtSsqOnM?t=35 distinct "hooooo-ey" call]. This is quite different from the dingo's "arrooo". Also, note the curled tail on the Basenji and its propensity for standing on its back feet, which inspired Eugene the Jeep's appearance and behavior. Segar would not have been thinking of a now-extinct ancestor species; it's only recent DNA evidence that links them to the dingo. My guess is that dog breeders had not settled on the name Basenji at the time of the strip, when the dogs were just being imported from Africa (they were introduced to the U.S. in the 1930s). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 23:12, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
::::"Hooey" is a slang term meaning "nonsense", not to be confused with the first name Huey. But in this case the name is onomatopoetic, as the Basenji makes a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvHCtSsqOnM&t=35s distinct "hooooo-ey" call]. This is quite different from the dingo's "arrooo". Also, note the curled tail on the Basenji and its propensity for standing on its back feet, which inspired Eugene the Jeep's appearance and behavior. Segar would not have been thinking of a now-extinct ancestor species; it's only recent DNA evidence that links them to the dingo. My guess is that dog breeders had not settled on the name Basenji at the time of the strip, when the dogs were just being imported from Africa (they were introduced to the U.S. in the 1930s). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 23:12, 7 June 2020 (CEST)
:::::Hm. OK. (I wasn't suggesting "Huey" as a joke word, rather "gooey" and "kablooie".) Not by the way at all, I tried to think of older examples of "xenoimpregnation" in popular culture (fiction). Couldn't think of non-human females, but the Immaculate Conception came to mind, and Zeus's mortal children, and probably many more in Hindu culture and whatnot. Sure, that kind of stuff is never presented as a kindred "life cell" from a "fourth-dimensional [sic] world", but the estrus part is there, at least. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:50, 8 June 2020 (CEST)
:::::Hm. OK. (I wasn't suggesting "Huey" as a joke word, rather "gooey" and "kablooie".) Not by the way at all, I tried to think of older examples of "xenoimpregnation" in popular culture (fiction). Couldn't think of non-human females, but the Immaculate Conception came to mind, and Zeus's mortal children, and probably many more in Hindu culture and whatnot. Sure, that kind of stuff is never presented as a kindred "life cell" from a "fourth-dimensional [sic] world", but the estrus part is there, at least. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:50, 8 June 2020 (CEST)
::::::Good point, I suppose we'd have to count impregnation by god if we're really trying to go back. (Little bit of trivia for you, the teaching of the Immaculate Conception is actually that Mary was born without sin; no relation to the teaching of the Virgin Birth. I'm willing to bet even a lot of Catholics don't realize this.) --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 02:59, 8 June 2020 (CEST)
::::::Good point, I suppose we'd have to count impregnation by god if we're really trying to go back. (Little bit of trivia for you, the teaching of the Immaculate Conception is actually that Mary was born without sin; no relation to the teaching of the Virgin Birth. I'm willing to bet even a lot of Catholics don't realize this.) --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 02:59, 8 June 2020 (CEST)