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I'd clearly separate focused adaptations (relatively close to the original)

from radically "alternative" brainstorming ("what if?"s and "how to?"s).

On one hand, there can be an intense collaboration on consensual episodes.

On the other, there can be a long-term relexion on parts with more "friction".

(possible friction between creators, I mean)

Definitely, I'd not rush head first past consensus and into friction ^^

(I've been there before)

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

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English adaptation

• Chapter 1
• Chapter 2
• Chapter 3
• Chapter 4

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Random thoughts

Not clearly impressions or "improvement" tips. Sometimes just loose associations.

Carmen

Cortana VS Gunman Chronicles

Obviously reminiscent of Cortana at the start of the story: however, she's no one's guardian angel.

There was a Carmen-like female AI in Gunman Chronicles.

Likewise "in charge" of a huge base. Likewise more than a bit confused when things go wrong, and people start to die (by her hand).

She is your enemy at first, and then becomes your ally when you defeat her: you force her to abandon her collapsing infrastructure.

From then on, you carry her around as a small module: she's a personal hacker/advisor then, very much like Cortana.

Towards the end of the game, she gets herself a physical body (first a "female robot", then a huge battle mecha).

(Disclaimer: I never played Halo, but I played and enjoyed Gunman Chronicles: varied, challenging, fun)

(there are raptors there, BTW) (raptors on one planet, mechas on another, cyborgs on both) (hehe)

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Zoo

Reminder: the original Zoo is populated by:

• Lazarus the "wolfman" and his pack of wolves
• A multitude of identical cannibal gnomes
• Vampire bats
• Piranhas
• Raptors

That's a rather limited bestiary/ecosystem...

E.g., it is not clear what everyday life in the Zoo would be like, if it wasn't for intruders (Eve & Emily, Jackson's team).

I.e., does Anderson feed them all separately, and if not, what do they all eat? Surely they're not all cannibals?

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Idea: the Zoo becoming Eve's Dream (mirroring her concealed fears)

Or the real zoo is a horrid place where experiments gone wrong are stored:

deform things, brainless masses of muscles and living tumors, maybe some

more sentient forms of life...

Guido

I second the first idea, but only in part. It's a bit too radical to completely virtualize "Part 3", IMO...

On the other hand, the Zoo can give Eve vivid nightmares a posteriori. A "Return to the Zoo" of sorts.

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

I "second the second idea", too. The Zoo concept gave me the same a priori impression.

Clones/mutants/chimeras don't have to be as perfectly "sensible" as Cora and Lazarus (catwoman, wolfman).

Cross-breeding animals (or plants) is almost guaranteed to give you a lot of true monsters. Real ugly ones.

Heck, you don't even need fiction... Ever heard of teratology? Talk about creepy...

"Deform things, brainless masses of muscles and living tumors"... exactly. Raptor food galore ^^

So yes, "experiments gone wrong". And even sentient forms can be very unfamiliar and/or awkward.

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Examples of creepy mutants and such

Disclaimer: haven't played either game yet. May buy SE:E soon (for several reasons).

SiN Episodes: Emergence

NPC Mutant Heads

now that is what I call ugly...

Vaguely Humanoid Mutant

in group

on its own

Big Bad Boss

[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/1/thumbs/060510_02.jpg far away] [dead link]

[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/5/thumbs/060425_02.jpg up close] [dead link]

Hellgate:London

Stalkers (raptor revisited)

[http://hellgate.suewebik.net/pages/demoni/stalker.php (czech site)] [dead link]

Grotesque (that one really has gone wrong...)

[http://hellgate.suewebik.net/pages/demoni/grotesque--skupina.php (czech site too)] [dead link]

Etc...

Cora

Catwoman is an obvious reference (Michelle Pfeiffer rather than Halle Berry for me)

Also (maybe not too relevant) here are pics of the Cabalist from Hellgate:London :

• [http://media.pc.ign.com/media/737/737992/img_4153656.html ON HER OWN] [dead link]
• [http://media.pc.ign.com/media/737/737992/img_4153654.html WITH FRIENDS] [dead link]

(she's supposed to be "good" but she's playing with fire and can thus join the "dark side" (2nd pic))

(note the padded garnments (reminiscent of Barabas's) and the different aspect of the skin in the 2 pics)

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

The 2nd pic (WITH FRIENDS) could be part of a nightmare ("Return to the Zoo").

Can Cora and Carmen merge? In Eve's nightmares, they certainly can.

geyser 21:22, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Eve

Actually, I thought Eve/Cora resembled Jessica Cannon (SiN Episodes) a little bit.

Maybe Cannon is a bit "too hot": there's not much of a plotwise analogy, anyway.

Then again, I've been drawing a huge parallel between SiN Episodes and Oni.

(so you might hear more about this...) (but not here, of course...) ^^

geyser 02:16, 16 February 2007 (CET)

Jessica Cannon

apprehension

aftertaste

Cindy Synnett

[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/2/thumbs/060505_02.jpg in parallel] [dead link]

[http://www.sinepisodes.com/gallery.php/ep1/sotd/3/thumbs/060504_01.jpg trigger happy] [dead link]

Early artwork

calm

angry

innocent