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(correcting my long-ago guess at the meaning of "shinatama")
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;TV Tropes mentions Shinatama as an example of the "Ridiculously Human Robot" trope, but actually counts it as a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging lampshade], to Oni's credit
;TV Tropes mentions Shinatama as an example of the "Ridiculously Human Robot" trope, but actually counts it as a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging lampshade], to Oni's credit
:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RidiculouslyHumanRobots
:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RidiculouslyHumanRobots
;On the Edo Era puppets (karakuri)
;On the Edo Era puppets ([[wp:Karakuri_puppet|karakuri]])
:http://web.archive.org/web/20170816043624/http://karakuriya.com/english/doll/shinatama.htm -- English
:http://web.archive.org/web/20170816043624/http://karakuriya.com/english/doll/shinatama.htm -- English
::This page seems to be saying that the translation of Shinatama is "magician", but this is meant less in the sense of "one who performs magic" and more in the sense of "one who hides things with a sleight of hand".
::This page seems to be saying that the translation of Shinatama is "magician", but this is meant less in the sense of "one who performs magic" and more in the sense of "one who hides things with a sleight of hand".

Revision as of 16:51, 1 August 2021

More links that concern Shinatama in some way

TV Tropes mentions Shinatama as an example of the "Ridiculously Human Robot" trope, but actually counts it as a lampshade, to Oni's credit
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RidiculouslyHumanRobots
On the Edo Era puppets (karakuri)
http://web.archive.org/web/20170816043624/http://karakuriya.com/english/doll/shinatama.htm -- English
This page seems to be saying that the translation of Shinatama is "magician", but this is meant less in the sense of "one who performs magic" and more in the sense of "one who hides things with a sleight of hand".
"Shinatama" is represented by 品玉, followed by 人形 for "doll" or "puppet". The breakdown of 品玉 is complicated, but 品 primarily means "goods, article, thing" and 玉 has many meanings, mostly centered around things of value such as "jade, bead, gem, jewel". The implication is probably that this is a doll who hides/reveals treasure.
For a much more strained translation, 玉 can also mean "pretty girl", making Shinatama a "pretty girl thing", an object that resembles a girl. --Iritscen (talk) 16:09, 1 August 2021 (CEST)
http://web.archive.org/web/20090223185000/http://www.imperioanime.com/karakuri-ningyo-munecas.html -- Spanish
http://web.archive.org/web/20210324174132/https://miksike.eu/documents/main/4klass/4nuku/elutuba/Marionetid/jaapani.htm
Video (with pronunciation of name)
Japanese video demonstrating karakuri reproductions on YouTube -- a shinatama is featured at 3:00.