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:Note to geyser: being your usual diligent self, I know you will notice this new page. The wiki seemed a good place to post this as a working document that we can use to arrive at the final tree of categories. Some parts will look familiar because they're from your original draft.
Summary: The basic categories take this overall approach:
:Also, just a reminder, the Category Tree extension goes hand in hand with this, so we should ask Alloc about installing it on the wiki. Without it, the only page that shows categories is Special:Categories, which lists all cat.s at all levels; CatTree will let us see the hierarchy properly, once it's in place.
*'''two''' for wiki management ('''Media''' for images and '''Wiki Support''' for templates and other supporting pages),
::;Iritscen
*'''two''' for in-universe stuff ('''Inside Oni''' and '''Beyond Oni''', for Oni 1 and Oni 2-ish, respectively),
:Please don't be pedantic about "chibi" etc. If it's "chibi" to those who draw it, then it should be good enough for you. I can assure you that Russians (RedDog and SeverED included) have no idea what "SD" means. And to me as a non-native English speaker, "super deformed" sounds, well, ugly: it's an inconvenient mouthful with a [[wikipedia:teratology|teratological]] connotation. "Chibi" has a much more kawaii sound to it, so unless you have another Japanese term, just STFU ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
*'''one''' for helping people play Oni ('''Oni Support'''),
::I wasn't specifically objecting to the word "chibi", just the category's existence. It's silly. But I can live with that. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
*'''one''' for helping people mod Oni ('''Oni Modding'''), and
:"Contents" sounds sensible for something that's supposed to read roughly as a TOC. If you're looking for a funky name, you can call the root "Prime". --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
*'''one''' for an outside-world approach to Oni ('''Real World'''), which will also catch the random non-Oni-related articles.
::"Contents" is fine, I have no problem with that. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
 
:"Early renders" is applied improperly sometimes to in-game screenshots, sometimes to stuff that was rendered after Oni was shipped. I'd delete it. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
Trying to narrow the number of cat.s down from here only artificially forces together articles that are unlike each other. The fact that it makes a total of [[seven]] categories is purely coincidental, but I think it's a sign that we're doing the right thing. :-3
::Yeah, it's potentially confusing. Removed. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:The "Art by Mullins" is not really fan art, and some of the art by Guido and Russian artists is project-oriented. I suggest a looser hierarchy there. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Ah, looser isn't quite what's needed, I see it now; this kind of situation is meant to be handled as I've done it now, with a separate cat. for "Art by artists". As you pointed out, multiple inheritance means we can now say that some Oni 2 art is "by Guido" (and not fan art) as well as putting it under "Oni 2 concept art". --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:"Wallpapers" don't necessarily qualify as fan art: think screenshots, high-res versions of splashscreens, or more or less "official" wallpapers. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::You're right; moved it out from under Fan art. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:"Humor" sounds like too general a name for humorous images. You can make that name more specific and/or allow for a more general Humor category. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Er, I made it "Humor images", is that specific enough? Don't know how else it can be improved, it seems fine that way to me. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:"Illustrations" is an ambiguous name, and it is counterintuitive (and in many cases wrong) how is implicitly excludes art, screenshots, etc. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::You're right, the word "illustrations" usually implies art. I have changed it back to using the current name, "Article illustrations". --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:Frames from the intro and outro don't really qualify as in-game content, as well as the splashscreens. Also, what about other games than Oni? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Sorry, this is the only place I flat-out disagree with you. In-game is anything you see after double-clicking the Oni icon. As for other games/media, I've made two cat.s for those below. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:I'm afraid I can't make a definitive statement on any trunk after "Images" as a whole. Just a few casual remarks right now. More, later, maybe. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
:"Oni support" sounds like an "Out-of-universe Oni" or "Technically Oni" kind of thing. Have a quick look at [http://dunepedia.wetpaint.com/page/Main+Category%3A+Out+of-Universe+Categories Dunepedia]. What about modding tutorials? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Also, Halopedia uses the category "The Real World" to discuss Halo as a game, not a story. I think saying "real world" is the clearest term we can go with. Trying that for now. Still not sure yet where pages about merely Oni-related stuff would go, like "Myth" or "Nausicaa". --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:I wouldn't call "Templates" an "Administrative" category. Also, the categories should be named as explicitly as possible and in "... ''templates''" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Templates are definitely administrative, unless you propose making another level-1 cat. for them, which to me isn't justified. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:I would have other remarks, e.g., about "Added value" or "AE" vs "Modding projects", but that'd be more or less subjective and polemical. Later. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::I'm not that confident about where I placed "Added value". And "AE" should probably be under "Current modding projects"; trying it under there for now to see how it looks; note that only pages directly related to your AE work would be there, none of that "all modding belongs to the AE" nonsense. :-3 --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:Generally, categorizing modding projects right now is hard, because the tools are in development and the perspectives are unclear. Scope creep. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Nah, it's not that hard. :-3 --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)
:I think we both know by now that the Cat Tree is not really a tree, i.e., multiple parents are actually allowed. Please take this into account. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
::Yeah, still trying to fully wrap my head around the methodology. --[[User:Iritscen|iritscen]] 00:09, 11 November 2008 (CET)


==Category Tree Proposal==
I believe all current categories are in this tree. I also renamed some, and obviously had to make a few new ones. --'''Iritscen'''<br>
'''bold''' = new cats<br>
''italics'' = renamed cats<br>
plain = current cats


'''Contents'''
'''Contents'''
:'''Images'''
:'''Beyond Oni'''
::'''Art'''
::Added value
:::Art by Lorraine
::Fan-made games
:::''Chibi art''
::Oni 2
:::Concept art
 
::::'''Oni concept art'''
:'''Inside Oni'''
::::'''Oni 2 concept art'''
::Characters
:::Dark Horse comics
::Events
:::'''Art by artist'''
:::Outro sequence
::Factions
:::BGI
:::Syndicate
:::TCTF
:::WCG -- includes neutral/un-allied parties
::Places
::Quotes
::Things
::Weapons
 
:'''Media'''
::Advertisements and magazine covers
::Art
:::Art by artist
::::Art by Craig Mullins
::::Art by DarkLitria
::::Art by Eric Lin
::::Art by geyser
::::Art by GTO
::::Art by Guido
::::Art by Guido
::::Art by Craig Mullins
::::Art by Jacen Burrows
::::Art by Lorraine
::::Art by Okita
::::Art by owldreamer
::::Art by Paradox
::::Art by Rina
::::Art by Rina
::::Art by Severed
:::Chibi art
:::Concept art
:::Fan art
:::Fan art
::::Fan renders
::::Oni 2 concept art
::::Second-hand art
:::Fun images
::::Project Konoko V
:::Wallpapers
:::'''Humor images'''
:::Promotional art
:::Promotional art
::Avatars and sigs
::::Design elements
::Glyphs
::Avatars and signatures
::Article illustrations -- made for articles, should not be art, but rather diagrams or screenshots of apps such as OUP
::Character renders
:::''OBD hex images'' -- current name, "OBD data images", is redundant
::Dark Horse comics
::''In-game images'' -- formerly "In-game art"
:::Dark Horse comic issue 0
:::Dark Horse comic issue 1
:::Dark Horse comic issue 2
:::Dark Horse comic issue 3
::Expo materials
::Fan game images
:::Konoko Payne images
:::UnrealOni images
::Images from other media
:::3D models
:::Anime, manga and comics
:::Location photos
:::OS and utility windows
:::Other video game images
:::Pictures of people
::Images of character classes
:::Images of Comm Troopers‎
:::Images of Elite Strikers‎
:::Images of Furies‎
:::Images of Mad Bombers‎
:::Images of Mercenary Snipers
:::Images of Ninjas‎
:::Images of Strikers‎
:::Images of Tankers
:::Images of TCTF Black Ops‎ SWAT
:::Images of TCTF Black Ops‎ Tactical
:::Images of TCTF Cops‎
:::Images of TCTF SWAT Troopers
:::Images of TCTF Tactical Troopers‎
:::Images of Thugs‎‎
::Images of characters -- any character with at least a few images gets their own subcategory
:::Images of Barabas
:::Images of Griffin
:::Images of Iron Demon
:::Images of Kerr
:::Images of Konoko
::::Konoko images by Lorraine
::::Konoko images by Okita
::::Konoko images by other official artists
::::Konoko model images
:::Images of Mukade
:::Images of Muro
:::Images of Shinatama
::Logos, icons and symbols
::Manual -- various language/platform versions in subcats under here
::Merchandise
::Modding images
:::Annotated screenshots
:::Instructional diagrams
:::Mod screenshots
:::Modding tool screenshots -- tools that don't have subcats go directly under here
::::AEI screenshots
::::Blender screenshots
::::Hex editor screenshots
::::Mod Tool OniTools screenshots
::::OUP screenshots
::::Vago screenshots
::::XSI Mod Tool screenshots
:::OBD hex images
::Music
::Oni (WAP) game images
::Oni 2 (AS) game images
::Oni game images
:::Developer Mode screenshots
:::Fly-in portraits
:::Fly-in portraits
:::Intro sequence
:::Intro sequence
:::Outro sequence
:::Outro sequence
:::Pre-beta screenshots
:::Screenshots
:::Screenshots
:::Splashscreens
:::Splashscreens
::Logos & icons -- need to change the ampersand to "and", though
:::Textures
::Images from other games -- it's verbose, I know ("Non-Oni game images"?); if you have a more concise idea, I'd like to hear it
:::Tool Mode screenshots
::Images from other media -- "Non-Oni media"? would include the animé screenshots, pictures of the Nausicaä manga, etc.
::Packaging images
:'''Oni modding'''
::Trailer (1998)
::'''BSL'''
::Trailer (1999)
::Unit Viewer images
::Wallpapers
 
:'''Oni Modding'''
::Modding ideas
::Modding information
:::BSL docs
::::BSL functions
::::BSL variables
::::Game scripts
::::Scripting tasks
:::Engine docs
:::Modding tutorials
::::XML data docs
:::Oni binary data docs
::Modding projects
::Modding projects
:::'''Current modding projects''' -- onss that aren't finished; I foresee this as being useful; when project is done, it gets filed under a sub-cat. of "Finished" below
:::Anniversary Edition
::::'''Anniversary Edition'''
::::Obsolete AE mods
:::::AE to-do
:::'''Finished modding projects''' -- sub-cat.s are taken from cat.s used on Mod Depot, except added cat. for levels
::::'''Animation mods'''
::::'''Character mods'''
::::'''Comprehensive mods'''
::::'''Level mods''' -- I don't like this name, got a better idea?
::::''Scripting mods'' -- currently "Scripts"
::::'''Texture mods'''
::::'''Translation mods'''
::::'''Weapon mods'''
:::Outdated modding projects
::Modding tools
::Modding tools
::'''OBD'''
:::Modding tools by platform
:'''Real-world Oni''' -- for all pages with facts about Oni, that are not facts from within the Oni universe
::::Bi-platform modding tools
::::Mac-only modding tools
::::Windows-only modding tools
:::Modding tools by status
::::Completed modding tools
::::Modding tools under development
::::Outdated modding tools
 
:'''Oni Support''' -- directly contains pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay
::Combat moves
::Game directory map
::Gameplay tools
::Gameplay tools
::'''Help''' -- containing pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay
::Patches
:::Tutorials
::Walkthroughs
::Pre-beta
 
::'''Patches and upgrades'''
:'''Real World''' -- truly miscellaneous articles go at this level
:'''Oni universe'''
::Community history -- for articles about us!
::Added value
::Oni 2 influences
::Characters
:::Duality
::'''Factions'''
:::Strident
:::'''BGI'''
::Oni history -- for articles about Oni as a game, and anything generally connected to Bungie
:::TCTF
::Oni influences
::::SWAT
 
:::Syndicate
:'''Wiki Support'''
::::Strikers
::Flagged articles
:::::Elite
:::Articles that need cleanup
:::'''WCG''' -- or should it be '''Civilian'''?
:::Articles that need deletion
::Oni 2
:::Articles that need discussion
::'''Weapons''' -- for your wanted cat. "Campbell Equalizer", etc.
:::Articles that need finishing
:'''Administrative'''
:::Articles that need merging
::Candidates for discussion
:::Articles that need updating
::Candidates for speedy deletion
::Policies and documentation
::'''Policies and guidelines'''
::Templates
::Templates
:::'''Administrative templates''' -- such as <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>
:::Administrative templates
:::''Formatting templates'' -- anything not a table, header or footer
:::Basic formatting templates
:::''Header and footer templates''
:::General table templates
:::''Macro templates'' -- currently "Standard terms"
:::Header and footer templates
:::'''Notice templates''' -- such as <nowiki>{{SeeTalkPage}}</nowiki>
:::Macro templates
:::''Table templates''
:::Message box templates
:::Utility templates
::Test pages
::Userspace
 
[[Category:Policies and documentation]]

Latest revision as of 20:47, 4 February 2024

Summary: The basic categories take this overall approach:

  • two for wiki management (Media for images and Wiki Support for templates and other supporting pages),
  • two for in-universe stuff (Inside Oni and Beyond Oni, for Oni 1 and Oni 2-ish, respectively),
  • one for helping people play Oni (Oni Support),
  • one for helping people mod Oni (Oni Modding), and
  • one for an outside-world approach to Oni (Real World), which will also catch the random non-Oni-related articles.

Trying to narrow the number of cat.s down from here only artificially forces together articles that are unlike each other. The fact that it makes a total of seven categories is purely coincidental, but I think it's a sign that we're doing the right thing. :-3


Contents

Beyond Oni
Added value
Fan-made games
Oni 2
Inside Oni
Characters
Events
Outro sequence
Factions
BGI
Syndicate
TCTF
WCG -- includes neutral/un-allied parties
Places
Quotes
Things
Weapons
Media
Advertisements and magazine covers
Art
Art by artist
Art by Craig Mullins
Art by DarkLitria
Art by Eric Lin
Art by geyser
Art by GTO
Art by Guido
Art by Jacen Burrows
Art by Lorraine
Art by Okita
Art by owldreamer
Art by Paradox
Art by Rina
Art by Severed
Chibi art
Concept art
Fan art
Oni 2 concept art
Fun images
Promotional art
Design elements
Avatars and signatures
Character renders
Dark Horse comics
Dark Horse comic issue 0
Dark Horse comic issue 1
Dark Horse comic issue 2
Dark Horse comic issue 3
Expo materials
Fan game images
Konoko Payne images
UnrealOni images
Images from other media
3D models
Anime, manga and comics
Location photos
OS and utility windows
Other video game images
Pictures of people
Images of character classes
Images of Comm Troopers‎
Images of Elite Strikers‎
Images of Furies‎
Images of Mad Bombers‎
Images of Mercenary Snipers
Images of Ninjas‎
Images of Strikers‎
Images of Tankers
Images of TCTF Black Ops‎ SWAT
Images of TCTF Black Ops‎ Tactical
Images of TCTF Cops‎
Images of TCTF SWAT Troopers
Images of TCTF Tactical Troopers‎
Images of Thugs‎‎
Images of characters -- any character with at least a few images gets their own subcategory
Images of Barabas
Images of Griffin
Images of Iron Demon
Images of Kerr
Images of Konoko
Konoko images by Lorraine
Konoko images by Okita
Konoko images by other official artists
Konoko model images
Images of Mukade
Images of Muro
Images of Shinatama
Logos, icons and symbols
Manual -- various language/platform versions in subcats under here
Merchandise
Modding images
Annotated screenshots
Instructional diagrams
Mod screenshots
Modding tool screenshots -- tools that don't have subcats go directly under here
AEI screenshots
Blender screenshots
Hex editor screenshots
Mod Tool OniTools screenshots
OUP screenshots
Vago screenshots
XSI Mod Tool screenshots
OBD hex images
Music
Oni (WAP) game images
Oni 2 (AS) game images
Oni game images
Developer Mode screenshots
Fly-in portraits
Intro sequence
Outro sequence
Pre-beta screenshots
Screenshots
Splashscreens
Textures
Tool Mode screenshots
Packaging images
Trailer (1998)
Trailer (1999)
Unit Viewer images
Wallpapers
Oni Modding
Modding ideas
Modding information
BSL docs
BSL functions
BSL variables
Game scripts
Scripting tasks
Engine docs
Modding tutorials
XML data docs
Oni binary data docs
Modding projects
Anniversary Edition
Obsolete AE mods
Modding tools
Modding tools by platform
Bi-platform modding tools
Mac-only modding tools
Windows-only modding tools
Modding tools by status
Completed modding tools
Modding tools under development
Outdated modding tools
Oni Support -- directly contains pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay
Combat moves
Game directory map
Gameplay tools
Patches
Walkthroughs
Real World -- truly miscellaneous articles go at this level
Community history -- for articles about us!
Oni 2 influences
Duality
Strident
Oni history -- for articles about Oni as a game, and anything generally connected to Bungie
Oni influences
Wiki Support
Flagged articles
Articles that need cleanup
Articles that need deletion
Articles that need discussion
Articles that need finishing
Articles that need merging
Articles that need updating
Policies and documentation
Templates
Administrative templates
Basic formatting templates
General table templates
Header and footer templates
Macro templates
Message box templates
Utility templates
Test pages
Userspace
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