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* "Sleepwalking into WW3" was also mentioned in the past. In Scholz logic weapon deliveries would equal as such. The distinction of defensive and offensive weapons is a really poor one, so this reveals itself as another pretextual argument. Putin decides what is too much "offensive". | * "Sleepwalking into WW3" was also mentioned in the past. In Scholz logic weapon deliveries would equal as such. The distinction of defensive and offensive weapons is a really poor one, so this reveals itself as another pretextual argument. Putin decides what is too much "offensive". | ||
* It was often said we don't let us blackmail by Putin. This is nonsense. Of cause Putin successfully blackmails us with nuclear escalation otherwise the points above wouldn't exist. | * It was often said we don't let us blackmail by Putin. This is nonsense. Of cause Putin successfully blackmails us with nuclear escalation otherwise the points above wouldn't exist. | ||
* Frustrating conclusion: Scholz must be thinking there is [https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/haubitze-rch155-ukraine-bekommt-bessere-deutsche-artillerie-18323559.html no other option left but to wait]<!-- delivery in 2025--> until Putin runs out of ammunition or troops. The proverbial bite into granite. The weak point is: When Putin runs out of conventional ammunition he will still have the nuclear bombs. Therefore Scholz' plan might be after all to not give Ukraine enough weapons so they cannot take back Crimea. In that scenario neither Ukraine wouldn't have lost "older" territory nor would have Russia its "newer". Back to status quo. There we have it again, as Scholz said: "Ukraine must not lose." (At the beginning he avoided to say "Ukraine has to win.") | * Frustrating conclusion: Scholz must be thinking there is [https://web.archive.org/web/20220918035215/https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/haubitze-rch155-ukraine-bekommt-bessere-deutsche-artillerie-18323559.html no other option left but to wait]<!-- delivery in 2025--> until Putin runs out of ammunition or troops. The proverbial bite into granite. The weak point is: When Putin runs out of conventional ammunition he will still have the nuclear bombs. Therefore Scholz' plan might be after all to not give Ukraine enough weapons so they cannot take back Crimea. In that scenario neither Ukraine wouldn't have lost "older" territory nor would have Russia its "newer". Back to status quo. There we have it again, as Scholz said: "Ukraine must not lose." (At the beginning he avoided to say "Ukraine has to win.") | ||
:: We shouldn't fall for Putin's threatening and framing comments [https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-der-bundeskanzler-zoegert-bei-den-panzerlieferungen-und-das-ist-gut-so-kommentar-a-1e53e61f-f3eb-4fc6-acda-e4c93a6b223f like that of Veit Medick]. Medick starts his comment by discrediting people as "tank fans". People supporting weapons deliveries are "in a fever", drawing a picture of mentally illness. And "[this is not a] videogame." Yea, everybody knows that. Especially the people in Butcha. Actual arguments are few and packed with fears. For stronger arguments there is a little interview with Klaus Wittmann, General a.D, on WELT. If you are interested make sure to not read the text but watch [https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article241106455/Waffenhilfe-Deutschland-liefert-weitere-Geschuetze-an-die-Ukraine.html the video]. -- The training of Ukrainian soldiers for modern German tanks better should have started months ago. | :: We shouldn't fall for Putin's threatening and framing comments [https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-der-bundeskanzler-zoegert-bei-den-panzerlieferungen-und-das-ist-gut-so-kommentar-a-1e53e61f-f3eb-4fc6-acda-e4c93a6b223f like that of Veit Medick]. Medick starts his comment by discrediting people as "tank fans". People supporting weapons deliveries are "in a fever", drawing a picture of mentally illness. And "[this is not a] videogame." Yea, everybody knows that. Especially the people in Butcha. Actual arguments are few and packed with fears. For stronger arguments there is a little interview with Klaus Wittmann, General a.D, on WELT. If you are interested make sure to not read the text but watch [https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article241106455/Waffenhilfe-Deutschland-liefert-weitere-Geschuetze-an-die-Ukraine.html the video]. -- The training of Ukrainian soldiers for modern German tanks better should have started months ago. | ||