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==LastmanSAC== | |||
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*Of course, Mukade=Hasegawa is not the only explanation of the Mai-Mukade bond.<br>It could be that Mai's "killer sense" was disrupted through denial when Mukade died.<br>Still, the total absence of bond between Mai and Muro or Barabas is disturbing.<br>Also note that the senseloop between Shinatama and Mai is one-way only. | *Of course, Mukade=Hasegawa is not the only explanation of the Mai-Mukade bond.<br>It could be that Mai's "killer sense" was disrupted through denial when Mukade died.<br>Still, the total absence of bond between Mai and Muro or Barabas is disturbing.<br>Also note that the senseloop between Shinatama and Mai is one-way only. | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:06, 9 September 2007 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:06, 9 September 2007 (CEST) | ||
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:Sorry about that, i've just been real tired lately. | |||
*Anyway i meant that Mukade tried to keep the Daoden cells a secret, but Muro found out once he took control of the Syndicate | |||
:(which i imagine, would of been pretty tough without already being implanted with a Daoden cell) | |||
:and used Synicate scientists to refine the Daoden cells further, not knowing that Mukade had already implanted one in himself | |||
:(and possibly his Ninjas - as you suggested). | |||
*I think that the Syndicate was falling apart - as well as the TCTF (relatively speaking) - and that each class of unit was from a different faction inside the Syndicate and that towards the time of Muro's leadership - fought each other constantly, like wolves in a pack. | |||
:So Mukade would want to get an advantage over others. This still begs an answer to the question " Why is Mukade weaker then the rest of the Daoden( if he is one)?" | |||
*But taking a new path entirely - perhaps Bungie just wanted that level (Tiger by the tail) to be more exciting by putting in that "emotion link" . | |||
:Perhaps the bond between Konoko and Mukade is a kind of "ability" that Konoko used instinctivley when she chased after Mukade? | |||
*I don't think there is that much evidence to suggest that Mai and Muro are related (genetically) at all, it just says in game that they where brother and sister - which can mean that they where bred at the same time by their "parents", Hasegawa and Jamie. Which leaves a lot of room to maneuver with all kinds of theories. | |||
:...a purple moon over a blackened land...as it where. | |||
::[[User:LastmanSAC|LastmanSAC]] 08:26, 16 September 2007 (CEST) | |||
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:Re. Looks Like I forgot all about that last post of yours. Short attention span or something. Mea culpa. | |||
*By "Tiger by the tail" you of course mean {{C10}}. I've been through the multiple interpretations already. | |||
:I quoted Hardy and I moderated the pheromonal/telepathic hypothesis with possible psychological effects. | |||
*Your idea of a pack of wolves is incorrect. There's a strong leader, and no fights except for succession. | |||
:Neither were there rival factions under Muro, IMO. Classes are normal in an elaborate paramilitary group. | |||
:As for what was falling apart and why, maybe have a look [[Oni2:Truth Number Zero|HERE]] (work in progress, subject to change) | |||
:(it's just a summary of what has been repeatedly stated on [[ASFO2]] and more or less agreed upon) | |||
*You're making a point about adoption, even though from Hasegawa's tale I rather have the opposite impression: | |||
::that parental care was somehow secondary to the Hasegawas during their fateful excursion into the Zone. | |||
:They were prepared to be branded enemies of the state, regardless of the consequences for their children. | |||
:Such carelessness is not too typical for young parents, and even less typical for ''adoptive'' parents. | |||
:BTW, that's one of the many points that seem to indicate that Hasegawa's story is made (or dreamt) up. | |||
:That said, I think there's enough evidence of Mai and Muro being Hasegawa's children (e.g., the hair). | |||
*I don't think of Mukade as weaker than either Mai or Muro. He could kick Muro's ass any time. Or Mai's. | |||
:I already elaborated on that and on the corollaries (why Muro tolerated him, and why he gave in to Mai). | |||
*If Mukade had full control of the Daodan (like, he was the one who staged the raid on Hasegawa's lab) | |||
:and didn't want Muro to find out or ever pose a threat, then whom exactly did he expect to fool? | |||
:I mean, if Mukade doesn't kill Muro or lock him away, then how could the Daodan remain a secret? | |||
:For whoever kidnapped Muro, the obvious thing to do was to implant ''his'' (Muro's) Chrysalis. IMO. | |||
*As for the Ninja, they were IMO not Daodan-enhanced. They were not even human. They were androids. ^_^ | |||
*"...a purple moon over a blackened land...as it where." Do you mean "as it were?" Shouldn't it be "as it was?" | |||
:"Purple haze" is one of the coolest-looking atmospheric effects in [[OTA]]. We haven't tried the moon yet :) | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:20, 28 September 2007 (CEST) | |||
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