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Note to geyser: being your usual diligent self, I know you will notice this new page. The wiki seemed a good place to post this as a working document that we can use to arrive at the final tree of categories. Some parts will look familiar because they're from your original draft. | :Note to geyser: being your usual diligent self, I know you will notice this new page. The wiki seemed a good place to post this as a working document that we can use to arrive at the final tree of categories. Some parts will look familiar because they're from your original draft. | ||
:Also, just a reminder, the Category Tree extension goes hand in hand with this, so we should ask Alloc about installing it on the wiki. Without it, the only page that shows categories is Special:Categories, which lists all cat.s at all levels; CatTree will let us see the hierarchy properly, once it's in place. | |||
Also, just a reminder, the Category Tree extension goes hand in hand with this, so we should ask Alloc about installing it on the wiki. Without it, the only page that shows categories is Special:Categories, which lists all cat.s at all levels; CatTree will let us see the hierarchy properly, once it's in place. | ::;Iritscen | ||
:Please don't be pedantic about "chibi" etc. If it's "chibi" to those who draw it, then it should be good enough for you. I can assure you that Russians (RedDog and SeverED included) have no idea what "SD" means. And to me as a non-native English speaker, "super deformed" sounds, well, ugly: it's an inconvenient mouthful with a [[wikipedia:teratology|teratological]] connotation. "Chibi" has a much more kawaii sound to it, so unless you have another Japanese term, just STFU ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Contents" sounds sensible for something that's supposed to read roughly as a TOC. If you're looking for a funky name, you can call the root "Prime". --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Early renders" is applied improperly sometimes to in-game screenshots, sometimes to stuff that was rendered after Oni was shipped. I'd delete it. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:The "Art by Mullins" is not really fan art, and some of the art by Guido and Russian artists is project-oriented. I suggest a looser hierarchy there. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Wallpapers" don't necessarily qualify as fan art: think screenshots, high-res versions of splashscreens, or more or less "official" wallpapers. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Humor" sounds like too general a name for humorous images. You can make that name more specific and/or allow for a more general Humor category. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Illustrations" is an ambiguous name, and it is counterintuitive (and in many cases wrong) how is implicitly excludes art, screenshots, etc. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:Frames from the intro and outro don't really qualify as in-game content, as well as the splashscreens. Also, what about other games than Oni? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:I'm afraid I can't make a definitive statement on any trunk after "Images" as a whole. Just a few casual remarks right now. More, later, maybe. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:"Oni support" sounds like an "Out-of-universe Oni" or "Technically Oni" kind of thing. Have a quick look at [http://dunepedia.wetpaint.com/page/Main+Category%3A+Out+of-Universe+Categories Dunepedia]. What about modding tutorials? --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:I wouldn't call "Templates" an "Administrative" category. Also, the categories should be named as explicitly as possible and in "... ''templates''" --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:I would have other remarks, e.g., about "Added value" or "AE" vs "Modding projects", but that'd be more or less subjective and polemical. Later. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:Generally, categorizing modding projects right now is hard, because the tools are in development and the perspectives are unclear. Scope creep. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
:I think we both know by now that the Cat Tree is not really a tree, i.e., multiple parents are actually allowed. Please take this into account. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET) | |||
==Category Tree Proposal== | ==Category Tree Proposal== | ||
I believe all current categories are in this tree. I also renamed some, and obviously had to make a few new ones.<br> | I believe all current categories are in this tree. I also renamed some, and obviously had to make a few new ones. --'''Iritscen'''<br> | ||
'''bold''' = new cats<br> | '''bold''' = new cats<br> | ||
''italics'' = renamed cats<br> | ''italics'' = renamed cats<br> | ||
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::Modding tools | ::Modding tools | ||
::'''OBD''' | ::'''OBD''' | ||
:'''Oni support''' -- not all that happy with the word "support"; I want to convey that this is for all pages with facts about Oni, that are not facts from within the Oni | :'''Oni support''' -- not all that happy with the word "support"; I want to convey that this is for all pages with facts about Oni, that are not facts from within the Oni universe | ||
::Gameplay tools | ::Gameplay tools | ||
::'''Help''' -- containing pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay | ::'''Help''' -- containing pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay | ||
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:::'''BGI''' | :::'''BGI''' | ||
:::TCTF | :::TCTF | ||
::::SWAT | ::::SWAT | ||
:::Syndicate | :::Syndicate | ||
::::Strikers | ::::Strikers | ||
:::::Elite | |||
:::'''WCG''' -- or should it be '''Civilian'''? | :::'''WCG''' -- or should it be '''Civilian'''? | ||
::Oni 2 | ::Oni 2 |
Revision as of 21:54, 10 November 2008
- Note to geyser: being your usual diligent self, I know you will notice this new page. The wiki seemed a good place to post this as a working document that we can use to arrive at the final tree of categories. Some parts will look familiar because they're from your original draft.
- Also, just a reminder, the Category Tree extension goes hand in hand with this, so we should ask Alloc about installing it on the wiki. Without it, the only page that shows categories is Special:Categories, which lists all cat.s at all levels; CatTree will let us see the hierarchy properly, once it's in place.
- Iritscen
- Please don't be pedantic about "chibi" etc. If it's "chibi" to those who draw it, then it should be good enough for you. I can assure you that Russians (RedDog and SeverED included) have no idea what "SD" means. And to me as a non-native English speaker, "super deformed" sounds, well, ugly: it's an inconvenient mouthful with a teratological connotation. "Chibi" has a much more kawaii sound to it, so unless you have another Japanese term, just STFU ^_^ --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Contents" sounds sensible for something that's supposed to read roughly as a TOC. If you're looking for a funky name, you can call the root "Prime". --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Early renders" is applied improperly sometimes to in-game screenshots, sometimes to stuff that was rendered after Oni was shipped. I'd delete it. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- The "Art by Mullins" is not really fan art, and some of the art by Guido and Russian artists is project-oriented. I suggest a looser hierarchy there. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Wallpapers" don't necessarily qualify as fan art: think screenshots, high-res versions of splashscreens, or more or less "official" wallpapers. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Humor" sounds like too general a name for humorous images. You can make that name more specific and/or allow for a more general Humor category. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Illustrations" is an ambiguous name, and it is counterintuitive (and in many cases wrong) how is implicitly excludes art, screenshots, etc. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- Frames from the intro and outro don't really qualify as in-game content, as well as the splashscreens. Also, what about other games than Oni? --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- I'm afraid I can't make a definitive statement on any trunk after "Images" as a whole. Just a few casual remarks right now. More, later, maybe. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- "Oni support" sounds like an "Out-of-universe Oni" or "Technically Oni" kind of thing. Have a quick look at Dunepedia. What about modding tutorials? --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- I wouldn't call "Templates" an "Administrative" category. Also, the categories should be named as explicitly as possible and in "... templates" --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- I would have other remarks, e.g., about "Added value" or "AE" vs "Modding projects", but that'd be more or less subjective and polemical. Later. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- Generally, categorizing modding projects right now is hard, because the tools are in development and the perspectives are unclear. Scope creep. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
- I think we both know by now that the Cat Tree is not really a tree, i.e., multiple parents are actually allowed. Please take this into account. --geyser 22:54, 10 November 2008 (CET)
Category Tree Proposal
I believe all current categories are in this tree. I also renamed some, and obviously had to make a few new ones. --Iritscen
bold = new cats
italics = renamed cats
plain = current cats
Fundamental -- we need a root, or "level 0" category, and this is what Halopedia calls it; WP calls it Contents, but I'm fonder of this name
- Images
- Art
- Art by Lorraine
- Chibi -- *sigh*, if we must continue to have this
- Concept art
- Early renders -- probably should be called Concept renders, or maybe we should remove it and just use "Concept art" for the 3D stuff too)
- Dark Horse comics
- Fan art
- Art by Guido
- Art by Craig Mullins
- Art by Rina
- Fan renders
- Second-hand art
- Project Konoko V
- Wallpapers
- Humor -- notice how it's outside "Fan *art*"
- Promotional art
- Avatars and sigs
- Glyphs
- Illustrations -- made for articles, should not be art, but rather diagrams or screenshots of apps such as OUP
- OBD hex images -- current name, "OBD data images", is redundant
- In-game images -- formerly "In-game art"
- Fly-in portraits
- Intro sequence
- Outro sequence
- Screenshots
- Splashscreens
- Logos & icons -- need to change the ampersand to "and", though
- Art
- Oni modding
- BSL
- Modding projects
- Anniversary Edition
- AE to-do
- Current modding projects -- onss that aren't finished; I foresee this as being useful; when project is done, it gets filed under a sub-cat. of "Finished" below
- Finished modding projects -- sub-cat.s are taken from cat.s used on Mod Depot, except added cat. for levels
- Animation mods
- Character mods
- Comprehensive mods
- Level mods -- I don't like this name, got a better idea?
- Scripting mods -- currently "Scripts"
- Texture mods
- Translation mods
- Weapon mods
- Outdated modding projects
- Anniversary Edition
- Modding tools
- OBD
- Oni support -- not all that happy with the word "support"; I want to convey that this is for all pages with facts about Oni, that are not facts from within the Oni universe
- Gameplay tools
- Help -- containing pages like Troubleshooting and Gameplay
- Tutorials
- Pre-beta
- Patches and upgrades
- Oni universe
- Added value
- Characters
- Factions
- BGI
- TCTF
- SWAT
- Syndicate
- Strikers
- Elite
- Strikers
- WCG -- or should it be Civilian?
- Oni 2
- Weapons -- for your wanted cat. "Campbell Equalizer", etc.
- Administrative
- Candidates for discussion
- Candidates for speedy deletion
- Policies and guidelines
- Templates
- Administrative -- such as {{delete}} (we really shouldn't have two cat.s with the same name, though)
- Formatting -- anything not a table, header or footer
- Headers and footers
- Macros -- currently "Standard terms"
- Notices -- such as {{SeeTalkPage}}
- Tables