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| :Another thought : could we be talking about [[Shinatama]] rather than Mai? | :Another thought : could we be talking about [[Shinatama]] rather than Mai? | ||
| :The relationship with pain you suggest for Mai is IMO pretty close to [[Shinatama#Pain and Death|THIS]]... | :The relationship with pain you suggest for Mai is IMO pretty close to [[Shinatama#Pain and Death|THIS]]... | ||
| ::(added long ago, largely underdeveloped) | |||
| :In the light of what you proposed for the Daodan, I'd like to draw your attention to this : | |||
| ::Shinatama can't train or adapt the way Konoko does. And she can withstand point-blank nuking by initial design. | |||
| :What was built into her was a ''formal'' scale of pain. It coincides with human pain over the range we know. | |||
| :And from there it's somehow extrapolated all the way to the top. As for thresholds, there are none (to Muro's delight). | |||
| :And there you have it : the "absolute" pain scale you fancied in humans. And the "power to suffer". | |||
| :Also check out (again) the essay on Zombie Shinatama by our mutual friend : | |||
| ::it revolves around pain and how Shinatama relates to it.  | |||
| ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:02, 1 December 2006 (CET) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:02, 1 December 2006 (CET) | ||