XML talk:TRAM

Parts of page in need of updating

I've placed the "update" template on this article for the following reasons:

• The Vago documentation is for v0.8 and is obsolete.
• The part about Blender just says that it's theoretically possible to use the program for animations! Link to a modern tutorial please.
• The part about extents says that Neo will have to make OniSplit calculate them automatically; doesn't it do that now?

Yes, it does. I compared a pure XML extraction against a round-tripped XML-DAE-extraction: The DAE companioned XML gets extracted with no attack ring and extents, so for this test XML and DAE can converted straight back to ONI file format and re-extracted as pure XML. Conclusion: OniSplit creates attack ring and extents from DAE data, IMHO the new attack ring and extents match the original data not perfectly but still pretty good. --Paradox

• The "Excel macro" should be rewritten as stand-alone application. Also, its support for XSI should be dropped in favor of blender.

That's the theory. Until OniX isn't going to be ... ahem ... a game changer, there will be probably no demand for this. A similar note was added on the non-talk page. --Paradox

• This talk page needs an updating too! The material should be incorporated into the article or deleted.

--Iritscen (talk) 00:12, 17 March 2021 (CET)

Additionally to the updates, I'd say the TRAM page should be marked "complete" when ...

... following things are done:

• motion blur (mini tutorial?)
• impact effects (mini tutorial?)
• TRAM picking mechanism: it gets easier to this mechanism if we differentiate between pool construction and pool usage
• throw pair animation table
• a simple tutorial to let a modder warm up with animations in Blender (it's okay if it rather resembles "round trip") since this page is about the file type itself (therefore: import and export)

--paradox-01 (talk) 16:53, 15 March 2023 (CET)

Problem with exporting a textured character with non-native TRAC animation

This problem occurs with OniSplit v0.9.99.0 and earlier.

There are basically two commands:

OniSplit -extract:dae outputPath -anim:TRAMname.oni inputPath/ONCCorTRBSname.oni

OniSplit -extract:xml outputPath -anim-body:inputPath/ONCCorTRBS.oni inputPath/TRAMname.oni

First one cannot export TRAMs that aren't listed in character's TRAC.

The second cannot export characters with textures at all.

A textual comparison with WinMerge reveals that the outputs of native TRAMs are almost the same.

Except the chunks of <library_images>, <library_effects> and <library_materials> are missing in the second dae.

It follows <visual_scene> where the id has a different name which is not that interesting.

Inside, there are <instance_geometry> nodes which are pretty much empty for the second dae.

I restored only a few bones. Proof of concept.

In other words: for a complete textured and animated character you need to post-edit the dae which is actually xml code.

If we doesn't get Neo to fix it we will have to export the character twice automatically and let the OniSplit GUI provide the final dae.

I added a "Repair character textures" option to "Simple OniSplit GUI", though that feature wasn't tested very much. --paradox-01 05:16, 18 August 2016

old

how convert dae to xml / oni ...

... using batch files

Download this modding environment so you know that the following lines are about.

Before you can run those files you need to put your source files into the "input_folder".

"dae + xml(not 41) to oni.bat" will generate files with QKeys.

"dae to xml(41).bat" will generate files with EKeys.

... using the Windows address bar

If you use the windows address bar you should have onisplit always alongside your essential modding folders to have short commands like

onisplit41 -create:tram output_folder input_folder/*.dae

We want to type as less as necessary, don't we? =)

... using onisplit GUI

Keep in mind that the GUI is only a mask for onisplit. New onisplit versions - v0.52.9.0 or newer don't have the command -create:tram.

normal animations

You can convert such animation by choosing one of the two methods. (normal = no overlay anims)

- To create QKeyed-animation you need a helper xml file to be placed alongside the dae animation file.

- EKeyed-animations don't need a helper xml file but edits afterwards the creation.

In any case the amount of needed hand work is quite the same for both methods.

QKeyed-animation refuse to become edited. There's somehow a bug like Samer pointed out on the forums. (Is this still the case? - 5th Dec 2011) But that's not so tragic. You can edit the dae or the xml helper file and then merge them into an oni file again.

Like EdT said an advantage of the xml helper method is that you can breakdown a single dae file into smaller pieces. It's a comfortable way to create multiple animations from one source. E.g. you make combo animations in one dae - let's say punch (p), kick (pk), punch (pkp) - then you make 3 xml helpers. First file goes from frame 0 to 40, second file from 41 to 86, and third file from 77 to 140. The dae file has 120 frames but not the 3 oni files that will be created.

Some lines for the hypothetical second combo animation:

   	<DaeImport>
           <Path>TRAM######combo.dae</Path>
           <Start>41</Start>
           <End>78</End>
       </DaeImport>
       <Lookup>
           <Type>PK</Type>
           <AimingType>PK</AimingType>
           <FromState>Standing</FromState>
           <ToState>Standing</ToState>
           <Varient>Combat</Varient>
           <FirstLevel>0</FirstLevel>
           <Shortcuts />
       </Lookup>
       <Flags>Attack</Flags>

Don't forget to add types, variants, particle etc. to your xml file before you convert it to the oni format.

testing the created files

Either put them into an AE package or create a plugin.

There's a batch file available that create level0 plugins. Put the created plugin files in your GameDataFolder and run the game.