Oni2 talk:Caged Birds

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Sorry, but I don't know where else to put this since you are using the talk page already for the below content. A few points:

• Talk pages don't get categorized -- they don't even show up in the list of uncategorized pages. Therefore anything placed here will not show up in the Site Map even if a category is applied. If you're just using this as a planning page for what will eventually go at the real, non-Talk page, that's okay.
• The category would be Oni 2 -- read the description on that cat. page for a reminder of what is supposed to go there. Oni 2 projects of course also get listed by their authors on Oni 2 to make them easier to find.
• In any case, the title "Oni Zero" was already taken by me, albeit for an extremely perfunctory page.
• You're also supposed to place Oni 2 projects under the Oni 2 namespace, e.g. "Oni2:Cage Birds".
• I think you mean to say "Caged Birds". "Caged" is the verb/adjective being applied to "Birds".
• Feel free to erase this message once you've read it, in order to get it out of your way.

--Iritscen (talk) 06:27, 4 January 2017 (CET)

Google hits:

"Caged birds" 519k

"Cage birds" 386k

Because of the high hit count I assumed the second term is also ok. So I took Cage Birds as it also sounds more normal to my German ears. We use a lot merged nouns.

But if you say I should use the other term, ok.

Actually I had Oni0:CageBirds as name space in mind to keep it consistent with other possible titles like Oni1:Remakes, Oni3:FurtherSequels. But you if say 'just put everything under Oni2', also okay. --paradox-01 (talk) 16:21, 4 January 2017 (CET)

If you look at the actual results for "cage birds" though, they're not usually even using that phrase; Google seems to remove the quotes and just show all results for "cage" + "bird". A "caged bird" is a bird that lives in a cage, or a figuratively caged-in person (see the title of Maya Angelou's book "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings"). Technically "cage birds" is also acceptable English, and would refer to birds that can be kept in a cage (because of being more domesticated, or maybe some bird species are just more accepting of cages). But most native English speakers will see "Cage Birds" as a grammatical mistake. Just wanted to let you know. As far as namespaces go, we actually don't allow users to just create new namespaces willy-nilly :-) Creating a new namespace also requires the settings of the wiki to be adjusted in several places. But yes, Oni2: is the proper namespace for all fan material about Oni. --Iritscen (talk) 17:46, 4 January 2017 (CET)

Could you please rename the page? You know I cannot do that without leaving a redirect. --paradox-01 (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2017 (CET)

General notes

A potential prequel to Oni - or just a set of many notes. We will see.

The non-talk page is meant for the final notes or writings.

We know little about Muro's and Mai's personality and habits. What kind of "humans" are they really? How does the Daodan alter them?

Also, there is Shinatama, Ryu and Daya whose background story should also be developed at some point.

Caged Birds is supposed to answer open questions and provide the foundation of the actual sequel RS. If CB is going to be a full story, it is not the final name, just a working title, as the children don't remain kept but go to war.

By the way, what category should this page have? [[Category:Oni 0]]?

Story notes in chronologic order

Where do Jamie Kerr and Momuto Hasegawa meet? Why do they fall in love?

How is Jamie's and Hasegawa's daily life?

Jamie dies...

Her corpse is examined in CDC's biosafety level 5 lab. It's the first time the BSL-5 was used.

Jamie has demineralized bones, liquefied organs, melted skin.

When they unzipped the body bag, they stood in a moment of shock and horror.

"Guys, from now on we will triple-check our suits before we enter this room."

"When we know how to deal with it send a sample to BSL-4 in Marburg."

"We also have two dead rangers. How did the husband survive?"

"Maybe only direct contact with blood is contagious. He said he had his gloves on when he applied the hypos. After the head shot he has kept distance. - The ranger rummaged the backpack. It was stained with blood. Probably it happened when she looked for dressing material."

Griffin tells one of his black ops fellows to form a task force, Z482.

They are supposed to find and kill Muro. Griffin isn't authorized to do that which îs why the group is supported by (GATC) Blackstars resources.

Griffin and Blackstars have always made business together. In return for the support Griffin shares all TCTF techologies with Blackstars, the Daodan is no exception. He trusts them blindly because he was a member of them. In fact, Griffin and Blackstars helped the TCTF to form their black ops division. The steady flow of information allows GATC and Blackstars to keep under WCG radar.

Even if Griffin wouldn't tell GATC about the Daodan they would find it out themselves and acquire the data. Instead he coops with them from the start to foster their relationship.

Z: "What if Konoko teams up with her brother?"

Griffin pierces him with grim eyes. "Do whatever you think is necessary."

Z: "Okay."

As Muro grows the task force is also meant to kill any children of Muro. He did already so much damage and was only one super soldier.

The team gets eradicated by Muro when they thought they had a good chance to engage. That's why Griffin has to fly to the mountain complex himself

On the hand you could construct a connection to the different game scenarios.

If Mai kills Griffin, another (weaker) blackstars teams might be compelled to attack Muro (because they are still in range) which drives him once more into Imago mode.

If Mai doesn't kill Griffin, the Commander is forced to use his own black ops at TCTF.

Konoko is supposed to be a weapon.

After the official TCTF training Konoko is send to a GATC location where she receives further training.

Griffin: "I want her to function in every situation. The hunt for Muro isn't a job for a rookie. He has killed hundred of men by now. Teach her to kill. Let her kill. Then she is ready. The test is December in just for the WCG fools." After that she is sent to investigate the Syndicate warehouse. Her additional training is the reason why she reacts so calm when she finds dead agent Chung.

Also, in the nightmare she calls herself a murderer because obviously she is one.

Beside that Konoko appears relative normal. She would have to deal with the real world one day so she must had have some regular education too. The sci staff around Kerr was possibly extended with an child psychologist, Maria. That woman and Kerr tried their best to protect Mai from Griffin.

The first real problem was to convince Griffin that the Daodan was not contagious.

Griffin: "You told me that this thing can withstand all biological and chemical threats."

Kerr: "Yes, that's the purpose."

Griffin: And for that it needs to grow. That makes it no different from the green goo out there. - Those whitecoats thought it would remain in their defined area. But it didn't. Hundreds of them were wrong. How can you tell you know it better?"

Kerr: "Just let me make the test and I will show-"

Griffin: "They too made tests, doctor! And it was for nothing. - How did they call it? - An unplanned occurrence of horizontal gene transfer. What the hell."

Kerr: "I promise you. I will show you that the Daodan does not take over cells of other people."

Griffin: "Well, doctor, try it..."

Maria: "If she is so dangerous to the general public how do plan to make use of her abilities?"

Griffin: "We lock her up. Train her in VR and android interaction. The tech says they are already working on something. - As far as the interaction with the Syndicate goes, we only plan her to fight Muro. We will provide a special suit to minimize decontamination."

Maria: "Who's is Muro."

Kerr: "Her brother."

Maria: "Oh dear god! Tell me this is not true."

Griffin: "He has the other Daodan."

Kerr: "You will probably see Muro in action here and there. - I can't possibly convince you with my own tests. But when you screen the people and places where Muro was, you won't see contagious cell remnants."

Griffin: "That's just one more theory."

Kerr: "Why don't you linten-"

Griffin: "Doctor! I will consider it."

Griffin doesn't really trust Maria methods to keep Mai doing the sci tests.

In springtime Maria and the tech team found a solution that seems to be compromise to everyone.

Shinatama is introduced to Mai.

Due to biosafety concerns Mai in not allowed to have physical contact with other people which of course also minimizes social interactions.

However, for a healthy developments Maria proposes that Mai makes more friends. A "machine" doesn't really count for her.

Maria: "What if she rebels against you, and rejects order in a critical moment because she never learned how to properly interact with others."

Griffin: "I know you use this as an excuse. -- But you are right."

Maria: "Why did you changed your mind?

Griffin: "I heard Jack and Konoko already met each other ... somehow. So. It wasn't a catastrophe? Fine. I will call it an followup experiment of yours."

Maria: "You would allow it if it isn't for greater use ... to you."

Griffin: "We will emotionally bind her to him. - Should she elope one day we have the means to get her back."

Maria: "..."

Griffin: "That or a bullet."

Mai and Kerr live in a TCTF-secured research facility (aka science prison) as he has worked for the Syndicate on dangerous technology and she has an unclear status of bio-safety.

Since her Daodan implantation she is living in a sterile room. Sci staff, and anyone else, only get near her in a full-body suit, or she wears one. Shinatama is introduced to her to prevent - as Maria puts it - mental disorders. The android is also used for edutainment and all kind of monitoring. At some points the “kids” actually have fun together which strength their relationship. For Maria the android is only a temporary solution.

One of the higher-ranked TCTFs brings his son Jack frequently to the facility. His wife works there too. Everyday they bring the kid themselves to and from school. They live in constant fear that he could be kidnapped or shot on the way. Many TCTF members are in the same situation. Maria arrange things so that Mai and Jack met.

Griffin is a close friend of that officer. One evening he gets attacked by a hitman by survives by sheer luck. One month later Griffin set an end to this. He lures the five most influential Syndicate bosses of his region into a rigged place (maybe a cargo terminal of Tokyo) and persuades them to agree on some substantial terms.

Griffin: “The assassination of police officers and the kidnapping has come to a stop.”

“Who do you think you are?”

[... ?]

Giffin: “I am the law.”

Boss spits to the ground.

Griffin: “And if don’t want me to be judge and executioner we will make a deal tonight!”

He presses his gun onto the boss’ left side of head. His head is now on table, hands still lifted signaling Griffin not to shot.

Griffin looks through the angry round.

Actually it's a standoff with their and his armed men around. But he seems to be more deadly.

“If you can’t play along things will get ugly. You can trust me on that one.”

He snips with his fingers. A hijacked BGI mech breaks out of his container and stomps one of the limousines.

“Property can be replaced. Lives can not.”

He puts a mobile projector on the table. It throws a live stream onto the wall. Certain family members are taken hostage. The environment looks expansive. Obviously those are the homes of the Syndicate bosses. The black ops are all Blackstars personal.

This makes clear Griffin has a strong sense for family and the TCTF alike.

From that day on Griffin lives at the HQ. He probably is now the most wanted man in his region. He got divorced and leaves his ex-wife in the believe he is just obsessed with his work – which is also true. Unwillingly he has become a symbol for the now cold war between Syndicate and TCTF.

It takes some years before Konoko is consider fully noncontagious. The screening of Muro’s visited places helped her out too. After that she can receive regular training at TCTF locations. Like Kerr she’s also escorted most of the time but without the need of wearing a helmet anymore. In fact she enjoys driving her motorcycle without a helmet to feel the wind in her face that she had to miss for so many years.

Muro fought his way up.