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==[[User:Geyser/Test2#Page 1|Page 1]] | ==Welcome to my collapsed moral universe== | ||
;(SAID BY KONOKO ON [[User:Geyser/Test2#Page 1|Page 1]]) | |||
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;[[User:GC|GC]] | |||
:[http://guido.oni2.net/music/Oni2BeginningAnew.m4a HERE] you find an m4a file of mine. As the title says, it has something to share with that sentence of yours: "Konoko: Welcome to my collapsed moral universe." | |||
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;[[User:AF|AF]] | |||
:Credit for that line goes to a book I recently read. It's titled: [http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-1400034639-0 War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning], by former war correspondent [http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week622/hedges.html Chris Hedges]. Quite a remarkable statement on both modern society and the human condition, and short to boot (UNFAMILIAR IDIOM ALERT! [[User:Geyser|geyser]]), so it's worth checking out. I've been pulling a lot out of it lately, honestly. | |||
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;[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | |||
:Complementary reading/watching suggestions : | |||
:#[http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week622/hedges.html an interview with Chris Hedges] : best read before or ''instead'' of [http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-1400034639-0 WIAFTGUM] (much shorter, less "poetry" and pathos, and all the relevant points are there) | |||
:#[http://www.monochrom.at/amok/ Every Five Seconds an Inkjet Printer Dies Somewhere] : a short article trying to explain "pointless" massacres (running amok). A few considerations (primarily in the first half) are general enough to apply to war : public theater, some kind of heroism VS manifestation of evil. | |||
:#Stanley Kubrick's [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093058/ Full Metal Jacket]. Two memorable quotes : | |||
:#*"Believe it or not, but under fire, Animal Mother can be a wonderful human being. All he needs is somebody throwing grenades at him 'til the end of his life." | |||
:#and : | |||
:#*Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone that runs, is a VC. Anyone that stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime! | |||
:#*Why should we do a story about you? | |||
:#*'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead gooks killed. Plus 50 water buffalo too! Them's all confirmed! | |||
:#*Any women or children? | |||
:#*Sometimes! | |||
:#*How can you shoot women or children? | |||
:[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | :#*Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell? | ||
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;[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | |||
:Borrowing the first sentence of a narrative from an existing piece doesn't seem right. No matter how thoughtful and original a book is, you can't just go "pulling [things] out of it" ^^ | |||
:If Konoko talks about her moral universe with as much distance as Hedges talks about his, doesn't that make her inconveniently ''lucid''? | |||
:If she's spent 4 years rationalizing on her past and present, isn't she well-armed to face the future? | |||
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==Narrative== | |||
;(FIRST-PERSON NARRATIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY) | |||
;(FROM KONOKO'S POV, EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY) | |||
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;[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | |||
:One thing to bear in mind about the medium is that unless you ''show'' Konoko talking, no one will know it's her. | |||
:In movies, the verbal message is complemented by the actual ''voice''. Here, an off-panel monologue has the text as its only support. | |||
:That ambiguity can be a drawback, but also a powerful means to achieve ambiguity. Does the narrator ''have'' to be Konoko? Food for thought... | |||
:For instance, androgynous characters work out nicely on paper : no disambiguation through voice. | |||
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;[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | |||
:Idea : Consider the scene as coming directly after [[User:Geyser/Test|the scene that marks the beginning of Avatar's new life]]... ''Avatar too'' had his "moral universe" shattered when the [[ACC]]s blew up. | |||
:Actually, the narrative of the story-so-far can be first-person ''and'' impersonal. If no specific information is provided, the reader assumes it's Avatar talking. The page/panel layout can then be minimalistic : white text over black background, period. | |||
:When and if you "fade in" to a series of shots "starring" Konoko, there will be a sort of gradual transition from one narrator to the other. Not really "natural", but worth the shot. | |||
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;[[User:Geyser|geyser]] | |||
:Another idea : if you want to show a desolated landscape (wasteland, destroyed [[ACC]]s, dead cities), you can introduce Konoko ''gliding over it rather than walking through it''. | |||
:With her {{C7}} glider. Reminiscent (of course) of Miyazaki's Nausicaä. | |||
:That sequence can be a semi-flashback dream of Mai's (the story would start when she wakes up). Thus some details can be surreal : her glider, for instance, can stay in the air for longer than "expected". | |||
:Also, the picture of destruction can be exaggerated, or echoing other post-apocalyptic references. Various dream-friendly artistic effects, too. |
Revision as of 18:30, 12 August 2006
Welcome to my collapsed moral universe
- (SAID BY KONOKO ON Page 1)
- GC
- HERE you find an m4a file of mine. As the title says, it has something to share with that sentence of yours: "Konoko: Welcome to my collapsed moral universe."
- AF
- Credit for that line goes to a book I recently read. It's titled: War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, by former war correspondent Chris Hedges. Quite a remarkable statement on both modern society and the human condition, and short to boot (UNFAMILIAR IDIOM ALERT! geyser), so it's worth checking out. I've been pulling a lot out of it lately, honestly.
- geyser
- Complementary reading/watching suggestions :
- an interview with Chris Hedges : best read before or instead of WIAFTGUM (much shorter, less "poetry" and pathos, and all the relevant points are there)
- Every Five Seconds an Inkjet Printer Dies Somewhere : a short article trying to explain "pointless" massacres (running amok). A few considerations (primarily in the first half) are general enough to apply to war : public theater, some kind of heroism VS manifestation of evil.
- Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. Two memorable quotes :
- "Believe it or not, but under fire, Animal Mother can be a wonderful human being. All he needs is somebody throwing grenades at him 'til the end of his life."
- and :
- Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone that runs, is a VC. Anyone that stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
- Why should we do a story about you?
- 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead gooks killed. Plus 50 water buffalo too! Them's all confirmed!
- Any women or children?
- Sometimes!
- How can you shoot women or children?
- Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?
- geyser
- Borrowing the first sentence of a narrative from an existing piece doesn't seem right. No matter how thoughtful and original a book is, you can't just go "pulling [things] out of it" ^^
- If Konoko talks about her moral universe with as much distance as Hedges talks about his, doesn't that make her inconveniently lucid?
- If she's spent 4 years rationalizing on her past and present, isn't she well-armed to face the future?
Narrative
- (FIRST-PERSON NARRATIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY)
- (FROM KONOKO'S POV, EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY)
- geyser
- One thing to bear in mind about the medium is that unless you show Konoko talking, no one will know it's her.
- In movies, the verbal message is complemented by the actual voice. Here, an off-panel monologue has the text as its only support.
- That ambiguity can be a drawback, but also a powerful means to achieve ambiguity. Does the narrator have to be Konoko? Food for thought...
- For instance, androgynous characters work out nicely on paper : no disambiguation through voice.
- geyser
- Idea : Consider the scene as coming directly after the scene that marks the beginning of Avatar's new life... Avatar too had his "moral universe" shattered when the ACCs blew up.
- Actually, the narrative of the story-so-far can be first-person and impersonal. If no specific information is provided, the reader assumes it's Avatar talking. The page/panel layout can then be minimalistic : white text over black background, period.
- When and if you "fade in" to a series of shots "starring" Konoko, there will be a sort of gradual transition from one narrator to the other. Not really "natural", but worth the shot.
- geyser
- Another idea : if you want to show a desolated landscape (wasteland, destroyed ACCs, dead cities), you can introduce Konoko gliding over it rather than walking through it.
- With her CHAPTER 07 . A FRIEND IN NEED glider. Reminiscent (of course) of Miyazaki's Nausicaä.
- That sequence can be a semi-flashback dream of Mai's (the story would start when she wakes up). Thus some details can be surreal : her glider, for instance, can stay in the air for longer than "expected".
- Also, the picture of destruction can be exaggerated, or echoing other post-apocalyptic references. Various dream-friendly artistic effects, too.