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:Sorry again for my sudden leaving on IRC. If you want to discuss, inform or so ever you can do via email because I don't look often into the forum pm section. :| | |||
:Or, we exchange our ICQ/MSN addresses so I could join some conferences of you and geyser. What do you think? | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 21:43, 16 September 2007 (CEST) | |||
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Revision as of 19:43, 16 September 2007
- I'd like to help you out with your user space : since it's more than just one page, with linking and such, it gets messy rather easily.
- For now, just have a look at the changes I made... And check out THIS, too.
- geyser 19:44, 27 September 2006 (CEST)
- Ok...
- Guido
- USE THE PREVIEW BUTTON MORE.
- PLEASE.
- geyser 17:15, 25 November 2006 (CET)
- Sorry again for my sudden leaving on IRC. If you want to discuss, inform or so ever you can do via email because I don't look often into the forum pm section. :|
- Or, we exchange our ICQ/MSN addresses so I could join some conferences of you and geyser. What do you think?
- Paradox-01 21:43, 16 September 2007 (CEST)
Images
- As for the roughs : it might be a good idea not to upload some of them on the wiki.
- Because there's a lot of them and some of them you may want to dismiss pretty soon.
- Also because they can't be renamed, and names like "Kon face 1.jpg" are easily overloaded.
- (dunno, you could/should have called them "experimental" or something ^^)
- If you can get an FTP client, then hosting "exploration" on guido.oni2.net is optimal.
- Then again, thumbnailing and gallerying go so much faster with wiki-based images...
- ...yeah, leave them where they are, just try to pick more specific names.
- (I don't mean additional info on the face expression :
- just "Kon face study 1.jpg" instead of "Kon face 1.jpg")
- Commenting on those faces some time this week.
- geyser 13:59, 27 November 2006 (CET)
Acknowledged.
- guido 21:33, 29 November 2006 (CET)
- As for the node-related pictures (graphical replies to my talk page entries) :
- I definitely think your talk pages could/should be moved over to the Oni2 namespace
- as potential nodes of a story (or stories). Script, discussion, actual content.
- I definitely think your talk pages could/should be moved over to the Oni2 namespace
- Then the page and image names should be somewhat systematic (that will make linking easier).
- (something like Oni2:Node42 as the article name and Image:Oni2node42image1.jpg)
- (give or take a few spaces in the names ^^)
- geyser 13:59, 27 November 2006 (CET)
- (something like Oni2:Node42 as the article name and Image:Oni2node42image1.jpg)
We may do this, but how do you think we can organize a framework-page for these nodes? Of course you have my blessing.
The nodes we have been discussing so far are not linked each other in a linear way. Connection among nodes should be shown through something like a table or an input-output matrix... (I am sorry, I got carried away, please forget this one)
- guido 21:41, 29 November 2006 (CET)
If you have any idea, or you think you can handle it, you have my blessing, of course.
- guido 21:34, 29 November 2006 (CET)
- Indeed. This is no single, linear progression of events : it's all connected.
- But actually, I think there doesn't have to be a "framework-page" at all...
- About the double entry matrix : it's not as nice as a flowchart and wastes a lot of space.
- Just as a graph, it is likely to get unreadable past a hundred nodes or so.
- I'd say there's nothing wrong with nodes just linking to each other : no overview.
- (that's how gamebooks work, after all : every page is a "local graph" of sorts)
- Additionally, I think an up-to-date semi-automatic index page of existing nodes will do fine.
- (with descriptions and non-trivial link information transcluded from the nodes themselves)
- I may have to experiment a bit more with hoverbox captions and even graphs
- (if GraphViz produces nice-looking diagrams with default settings, why not?)
- If you're really bothered about the lack of flowchart support right now,
- I can have GraphViz installed. Do you want it? I'm not sure it'd be much more than a toy...
- We could render flowcharts of whole stories (large, messy graphs), or regions (vicinities of certain nodes).
- That would be a lot of work for no big benefit, though, keeping those graphs up-to-date...
- There's a good chance the graphs will end up unreadable pretty soon, though (I'm repeating myself).
- I'm glad to have "your blessing, of course", of course. ^^
- geyser 22:59, 30 November 2006 (CET)
- Oh, and there doesn't have to be a single storyline out there.
- Conflicting entities, contradictory events. Sequels, prequels, paraquels, whatnot.
- Definitely, no matrix can do the job properly. No global graph, either.
- Every story is best outlined in a textual way.
- Every link of a fancy graph can take the form of a sentence or paragraph,
- that will be more informative and less ambiguous than a flowchart.
- Yeah, something like storylines-in-progress.
- Not sure what we'll call them (tree pages?) but they'll definitely do the trick.
- Bottom line : screw flowcharts; plain-text "framework page"
- And that's it, off to sleep.
- geyser 22:59, 30 November 2006 (CET)
- On second thought, about those roughs (mostly those of Kon's face)
- If there's enough to comment on (or complain about) on a pic-per-pic basis,
- then of course we can issue those comments on the "image page" ov every pic.
- Then you can either overwrite the pic with a new version, or upload it with a suffix (e.g. "a", "b", ...)
- If you overwrite the old image, you can keep the old around on an external server.
- (and show it along with the new one, like I did for the tandem ride HERE)
- If the image is a new one, its page can inherit the old discussion and/or link to the old page.
- Global comments on a group of images should probably go in some global talk page.
- (same as for the "nodes", I think Mai's character study could/should go over to the Oni2 namespace)
- I understand "Kon" is a nice original touch, but in terms of Google hits it's about as ambiguous as Mai.
- So I'd just put it HERE, along with THIS. See you there.
- geyser 13:59, 27 November 2006 (CET)
I am the first one who should complain about my drawings. I am disappointed by what I manage to do these days. I lack the time, the concentration, and the sharp eye I used to have only half a year ago. Even when I find the time, all I get is just a fuzzy mess of sketches: each of them is just a clumsy reflection of what I've been aiming at. There has always been a gap between my hand and my imagination: today it seems larger than ever. It does not depend on the subject I am focusing on, it has to do with a personal state. I hope I will find a way through it. Sadly there's no one who can show it up to me.
- guido 21:32 29 November 2006 (CET)
- Take your time, man. And try using the eraser more ^^ << ACTUAL ADVICE
- Or listen to something else than NIN for a change ^^ << STUPID JOKE!!!
- geyser 22:59, 30 November 2006 (CET)
- Will you be discontinuing THIS as announced?
- (Practically, should we terminate the links to that blog?)
- geyser 17:14, 27 November 2006 (CET)
- I feel sick, I feel depressed, I hate all I do. and all I know to do in such times is to be self-destructive.
- Apart from that, I got no comments. and noticed how the access counter has been idle for long, too long.
- Anyway I am not going to close the oni2blog for a while (a couple of months at least). In any case I am intended to find a substitute for it.
- Maybe it is time to reconsider the idea of getting an Oni2.net account...
- guido 21:17 29 November 2006 (CET)
- Welcome to the "disgustipation" club. This is what you get when you "get creative"...
- (I used to have bipolar disorder a lot, and as you know I wouldn't call myself "cured")
- On the subject of self-desctruction, late reply to you :
- if earth has become an evil place because of people, and we cannot escape it, what can we do?
- If we are confined in a place for all our life, and everything is getting worse, what shall we do?
- Quoting Seal, "no we're never gonna survive, unless we get a little crazy"... So true.
- Those for whom REM sleep is not enough have to freak out in a way or another to "deal" with reality.
- Practically, there are people who take chemicals and go to shrinks, and those who ought to. Like me. ^^
- And then your only hope is to be your own shrink, to take some distance with respect to your craze.
- That's when you have a chance to come up with a "way through" that doesn't destroy you completely.
- (I didn't realize you were quoting Reznor, not Frost, with that sig of yours...)
- Nice work, Guido. This is becoming an agony column. Or group therapy. Or something...
- You're always welcome on oni2.net. Alloc's contact info is on the main page of the server.
- Hope that helps. Expect a mail either before, during, or after this weekend ^^
- geyser 22:59, 30 November 2006 (CET)
- Oh, BTW : seen THIS?
- "Well, admitting you have a problem is the first step, I suppose. - I like to think so."
- Rather fitting to the private hells of a few people I know...
- geyser 22:59, 30 November 2006 (CET)
guido
I like the Black ops Konoko!
EdT 04:11, 1 April 2007 (CEST)