Talk:Main Page

Standerds

Mayhap we should set some standerds for article creation/modification. For one, NO m-rated language.The Deadly Brain 19:18, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

I beg to disagree. Clean language is not an option.

The best we can do is blank out certain characters.

So I hope you're all right with s##t and f##k etc.

Peace

geyser 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

In any case, such a rule would have to be motivated.

Are you offended, or do you want to protect others?

geyser 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

BTW, there are standards in terms of spelling ^^

geyser 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

I know for a fact children younger then ten visit this site.

The Deadly Brain 23:22, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

1. Do you mean from Oni Central Forum? (we're not indexed on Google yet)
2. All clear. But it's as I said. "Bleeping" at most.

You can be the bleeper-in-chief if you want ^^

geyser 00:59, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

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Expansion

it could use a bit of enlarging... and detailing... this site ain't a direct-copy of the game (even though it might seem so ;P), so... :) EgonFreeman 1:33, 9 Jun 2006 (CEST)

Well, feel free to contribute... that's how it works. All the detailing and enlarging is done by me ATM, but it's not supposed to stay that way...

I know there are things like chapter summaries and character profiles missing, but... there are other priorities, including Oni-related ones :)

I may be trimming the Main Page soon (it's a bit confusing at the moment). More images, less text. Links to namespaces and such.

geyser 02:30, 14 Jun 2006 (CEST)

Proposal for New Main Page (User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal)

Sorry, geyser, I should have discussed it first, but I thought, it's better to show than to tell, and if you didn't like it, you could revert... also, I copied because I didn't want to make you move things back if you wanted to revert (and because some things were getting moved to separate pages, not just moved together)...

anyway, it sounds like you prefer the main items to be the only items on the front page, and each links to its own page, right? "Making of", "Basic", etc. are the only level that shows here. Is that right?

Iritscen 17:27, 16 January 2008 (CET)

1. You could totally have "shown" here in the talk page, or (better) in your user namespace, with only a link to that new page design here, like: User:Iritscen/Main Page
2. That's right. The main page should be a "portal to portals" with most of the details moved to those other portals. What we have now is something resembling a "site map".

We'll see about reverting. The wiki is important, but I will sorta have to focus on modding this week, so I'm not sure I'll have the right inspiration to help you guys.

As for the splitting stuff off to separate pages, please let's not have too much of that. Mini-pages actually make the wiki harder to browse and more annoying to read.

geyser 17:40, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Okay, what if the main page looks as it does now (but maybe a nicer arrangement of the titles), and then each of those links to some fairly large pages -- no mini-pages. If you don't like that, I will revert to original Main Page and go do something with the Images section... future changes will indeed be previewed in my namespace. Sorry, I forgot my wiki etiquette. --Iritscen 17:47, 16 January 2008 (CET)

@Iritscen: That sucks. Would you please change that back and use a playground first as geyser had suggested it above? Ssg 18:21, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Well, since you asked nicely, sure, I'll do that. --Iritscen 18:22, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Thank you. (Wow, now that was really a fast response. :-) I've nothing against a new main page, but it's not a good choice to replace a full working site with an "under construction" one. Ssg 18:38, 16 January 2008 (CET)

You're right, I was expecting a quick reply from geyser, but it seems he's moved on to something else. When he responded I was going to start fixing things up. You just happened to come along in the meantime. As he's pointed out, I should be doing things like that in my namespace; see User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal from now on.

Anyway, we should still get a sense of what kind of page people want. A very simple one with groups like "Making Of", "Basic Info", etc., or can we have subgroups like in the Proposal? --Iritscen 18:55, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Oh... I'm sorry. Didn't know that it was already in work. However, your new main page looks good. IMO you can replace the main page.

One suggestion: Add an equals sign to every group and subgroup. F.e.: =Help= to ==Help==. IMO it looks better, because the page has not so much dividing lines. Ssg 11:20, 17 January 2008 (CET)

Okay, I did that, and agree it looks better. But Ssg, geyser does not agree that the page should be so long, which is why I want to arrive at a consensus before replacing what's on the Main Page. I think the page can be that long, but maybe he thinks it's unwieldy or intimidating.

Also, I am trying to add this code at the top of the page:

<center><div style="font-size=162%;">Welcome to OniGalore, the wiki for all things Oni.</div> :[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] articles in total</center>

Two problems: 1. It does not change the font-size! and 2. The article count looks wrong. Look at the statistics page. There's a bajillion pages and it says only 90 are probably "real content". Is that true? --Iritscen 16:14, 17 January 2008 (CET)

Replace the equals sign between "font-size" and "162%" with a colon:

Welcome to OniGalore, the wiki for all things Oni.

901 articles in total

The "90 articles" is right, I guess. IMO Wiki takes a namepsace as one article. So f.e. the whole OBD sites are only one article. Well, that's what I think. I've no idea, if that's right or not.

I like the long main page, because it contains all information I need. I don't have to search for something and I don't have to guess where something could be located. Nevertheless, to shorten it I would move the external links to a seperate site, because that's a topic that can run up to a lot of entries. The link to the "External Links" can be placed in the "Further Content" section. Ssg 18:57, 17 January 2008 (CET)

THANK YOU. That was driving me crazy; I think our wiki's syntax is a little different from Wikipedia, or else I'm just confused. But the tags work now, and that's what matters. I agree with your input on the External Links (it's not really appropriate to have external links on a wiki's front page, now that I think about it), and am adjusting accordingly. --Iritscen 19:45, 17 January 2008 (CET)

It is probably because wikipedia is updated :P...OniWiki is ollllddd Gumby

Vote for New Main Page

Please add your opinion below. All in favor of the page at User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal write For and optionally give a comment. Otherwise write Against and please explain why. Remember to sign! We need to get this matter settled so I can move on to other things on the wiki and stop glancing at the talk page looking for changes.

For. But I am a biased party :-3 --Iritscen 16:15, 28 January 2008 (CET)

For. The new page is hawt Gumby 08:42, 30 January 2008 (CET)

For. I like it :) Tyr 16:57, 30 January 2008 (CET)

Err. How is it different from the old one? geyser 16:26, 31 January 2008 (CET)

Stuff got moved around, and a new intro, methinks

http://wiki.oni2.net/w/index.php?title=User%3AIritscen%2FMainPageProposal&diff=7480&oldid=7479 if it helps :P Gumby 20:03, 1 February 2008 (CET)

For. Maybe we should move the "help" section to the 2nd or 4th position, so that the "basic content" is followed directly by the "further content". That makes more sense, IMO. Ssg 14:37, 2 February 2008 (CET)

Kkk.

K guys, looks like long silences attract spam. What do you think about a 3-column layout such as THIS?

Of course, you could add items to every list, but I'd rather keep them short and redirecting elsewhere.

If I don't have a reply by the end of the weekend, I'll make this the new main page, fa fa fa fa fa! ^_^

The old one (or maybe Iritscen's revisited version) will be moved to Main Page/Site map or something.

Mmh... not bad either. If we use this, you should add a "valign=top" so that the entries of the last row are always on top. Ssg 19:07, 2 February 2008 (CET)

Hmm...

Added the valign thing. Needless to say, you're welcome to fancify the colors, reshuffle the lists etc... at any time.

That page also relies on 4 pages that don't exist yet: ONi, ONi for fans, ONi for players and ONi for modders...

geyser 00:32, 3 February 2008 (CET)

Oh...

Oh indeed. As for that spam we're getting, it's not clear whom we owe this new source of comfort.

We were never indexed on Google, so it must be a problem of linking here from one place too many.

Did someone add a link to the wiki to a site hosted on a public server, or something like that?

Interestingly, the IPs are very specific, with a single set of spam per IP. That's a "good " thing.

If we keep getting more of that, we will probably restrict editing access to registered users.

geyser 00:32, 3 February 2008 (CET)

OK, who do we know in Odessa, Ukraine? ^_^