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What went wrong with Griffin?
What went wrong with Griffin?
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:It appears there is an additional object connected to the new head, which needs to be deleted.  The new head needs to be named correctly, it needs to be attached to the neck (parent/child). Finally the scale/rotation needs to match the previous head.
:Perhaps, since I was working with the .dae version, and not the original Blender file, I was not able to export to Collada, it kept failing on me. Not sure why...
:What did I do? I used Cheetah3D.  I exported ONCCgriffin_generic as Collada, used FBXConverter to convert the file to .fbx.  I also converted your new model to .fbx.  I then copied the new griffin head to the griffin_generic fbx file, replaced the original head, set the correct rotation and parent/child relationship. Exported it out as .fbx, converted it to .dae using FBXConverter, then imported into Oni. Also, regarding the triangles not being connected in my model, I did not Optimize the model in Cheetah3D before exporting.  
 
[[User:EdT|EdT]] 20:51, 2 June 2008 (CEST)


[[User:EdT|EdT]] 18:54, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
:'''it's important that its rotation matches the original part''' Conceptually, this has to do with the "center point": you have to define not only a position for it, but also a rotation, and thinking of it as a "point" can be misleading. I have no idea how Blender handles this exactly, but I'd be surprised if it was working with ill-defined frames of reference. Therefore the "center point" mentioned by Ed ''must'' have an adjustable orientation property.
:'''it's important that its rotation matches the original part''' Conceptually, this has to do with the "center point": you have to define not only a position for it, but also a rotation, and thinking of it as a "point" can be misleading. I have no idea how Blender handles this exactly, but I'd be surprised if it was working with ill-defined frames of reference. Therefore the "center point" mentioned by Ed ''must'' have an adjustable orientation property.
:'''What went wrong with Griffin?''' If that's of any help, you can let ''me'' (or Neo) try and import him ''any time at all''. When in trouble, there's nothing wrong with asking those familiar with OniSplit and/or the COLLADA format to have a look. What kind of masochist are you? If you're scared of me, try and "use" Neo. He may not help you all the way out, but he won't bite, that's for sure.
:'''What went wrong with Griffin?''' If that's of any help, you can let ''me'' (or Neo) try and import him ''any time at all''. When in trouble, there's nothing wrong with asking those familiar with OniSplit and/or the COLLADA format to have a look. What kind of masochist are you? If you're scared of me, try and "use" Neo. He may not help you all the way out, but he won't bite, that's for sure.
:Oh, and I'm also very confused about '''work on Griffin began so long ago that OniSplit had some model exporting issues, which are now a part of the model, so the model is not able to be imported as is''' ... No bug report at all? Just what "issues" could we be talking about? Are those ''assumptions'', maybe? Well?
:Oh, and I'm also very confused about '''work on Griffin began so long ago that OniSplit had some model exporting issues, which are now a part of the model, so the model is not able to be imported as is''' ... No bug report at all? Just what "issues" could we be talking about? Are those ''assumptions'', maybe? Well?
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:16, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 20:16, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
::geyser, sorry my terminology is not correct.  What I called "center point" is the point where the body part will rotate around. I used "Rotation" as the orientation of the body part in 3D space.  When the rotation for all the body parts is 0 for x,y,z, then the pose of the model is the default orientation.  But since the pose in Blender is a standing pose, the rotation of the body parts is not 0,0,0. So if you replaced the head, with one that had a different rotation (even though it looked the same), the head will appear wrong in Oni.
::Here's the link to Iritscen's Griffin: http://www.sendspace.com/file/uesl4u  Also,  you can find my version of Griffin here: http://drop.io/EdT_OniFIles
::[[User:EdT|EdT]] 20:51, 2 June 2008 (CEST)
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