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:::Listing image categories doesn't solve the problem of being unable to sort out the truly unused images from all the ones that are categorized and viewable in a category-as-gallery, like [[:Category:Art_by_Guido|this]] one. But maybe I'm the only one that this bothers, because I'm trying to stay on top of the images that have been uploaded over time here. Speaking of which... --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | :::Listing image categories doesn't solve the problem of being unable to sort out the truly unused images from all the ones that are categorized and viewable in a category-as-gallery, like [[:Category:Art_by_Guido|this]] one. But maybe I'm the only one that this bothers, because I'm trying to stay on top of the images that have been uploaded over time here. Speaking of which... --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
::::Categories, special pages etc can never replace human awareness of just what is actually being used and where and how. So please, don't you ''ever'' set up a page like [[User:Iritscen/ConsoleFix|THIS]] again. It doesn't fix ''anything'', except maybe some psychological problem of your own. Specifically, I hope you understand that force-listing images on a page just so they're not ''auto''-listed as "unused" is, in short, a lie. And clearly the proper way to "use" a categorized image is ''not'' to make galleries redundant of categories, but to ''actually'' put the image to some non-trivial use, in some non-trivial context. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | ::::Categories, special pages etc can never replace human awareness of just what is actually being used and where and how. So please, don't you ''ever'' set up a page like [[User:Iritscen/ConsoleFix|THIS]] again. It doesn't fix ''anything'', except maybe some psychological problem of your own. Specifically, I hope you understand that force-listing images on a page just so they're not ''auto''-listed as "unused" is, in short, a lie. And clearly the proper way to "use" a categorized image is ''not'' to make galleries redundant of categories, but to ''actually'' put the image to some non-trivial use, in some non-trivial context. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
:::::It's not so much a lie as a way of working around the fact that appearing in a gallery-like category page doesn't count as being used (which is natural). There was never anything wrong with the Images page as it is now, except to you and you alone, so if we left it that way, there'd be no issue. | |||
:::::The line about the wiki not replacing "human awareness" is utter bull-hockey; why do we categorize bloody anything if not because our minds can't keep track of where everything is, what it's for, and whether it's being used? This is the same basic flaw in your view that you have with the Wanted Pages: since ''you'' know (or think you do) what needs to actually be written, and what is just a random redlink, you think it's okay to have 400+ unique redlinks in the wiki, when really the Whole Point of pages like Unused Images and Wanted Pages is to help us humans with our limited recall and awareness to keep track of issues that need to be addressed. No one's even asking ''you'' to address them, I volunteered myself for that menial and arduous task, and yet you feel obliged to stand in my way when I try to make this wiki's support pages function like they were designed to. | |||
:::::And it's completely unnecessary to find a place for each of those gallery images in other articles, because that's not what they're for, they're intended to be their own raison d'etre so we can preserve the art of Oni somewhere. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:26, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | |||
::"wiki-support images like this little [[:Category:Mysteries needing discussion|mystery]] item: [[:Image:OE-table.png]]" Aw, come ''on''... you're a scream. | ::"wiki-support images like this little [[:Category:Mysteries needing discussion|mystery]] item: [[:Image:OE-table.png]]" Aw, come ''on''... you're a scream. | ||
:::Glad I'm providing you with some amusement, but what's wrong with my attempt to get rid of pointless vestigial images? --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | :::Glad I'm providing you with some amusement, but what's wrong with my attempt to get rid of pointless vestigial images? --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
::::It was a hypish initiative, totally out of proportion, and almost offensively pointless itself. Clearly the right person to ask about stuff like [[Image:OE-table.png]] is Dox and Dox alone; and as for the OBD screenshots, asking a grouped question about them on ssg's talk page was also the sensible thing to do: fewer edits, less time spent typing and clicking for everyone involved. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | ::::It was a hypish initiative, totally out of proportion, and almost offensively pointless itself. Clearly the right person to ask about stuff like [[Image:OE-table.png]] is Dox and Dox alone; and as for the OBD screenshots, asking a grouped question about them on ssg's talk page was also the sensible thing to do: fewer edits, less time spent typing and clicking for everyone involved. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
:::::Okay, so in the future I will go back to the source -- whoever uploaded an image -- and ask them personally. Point taken. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:26, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | |||
:Trying to make the page both more serious/accurate and more lively. | :Trying to make the page both more serious/accurate and more lively. | ||
:::And inserting many needless carriage returns, as usual :-p Some people's screens *are* larger than 13", you know. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | :::And inserting many needless carriage returns, as usual :-p Some people's screens *are* larger than 13", you know. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
:::1) It's the pixels that matter, not the inches; 2) FYI, my screen is 1600x1200, and line breaks are my way to avoid unreadably long lines of small print on ultra-wide screens; 3) The line breaks you're complaining about right now have nothing to do with text width: they provide padding for the picture on the right so that it doesn't interfere with the edit-link of the first section. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | :::1) It's the pixels that matter, not the inches; 2) FYI, my screen is 1600x1200, and line breaks are my way to avoid unreadably long lines of small print on ultra-wide screens; 3) The line breaks you're complaining about right now have nothing to do with text width: they provide padding for the picture on the right so that it doesn't interfere with the edit-link of the first section. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | ||
::::It's really the needless tabs that irritate me here. It makes things look sloppy, plus it looks like someone's responding to someone else when you tab in like that from the previous line. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:26, 5 June 2008 (CEST) | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:42, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:42, 3 June 2008 (CEST) | ||